This is the way.
I know very little about Ed Sheeran, but I did see him in a clip from the Graham Norton show where a comedian said that people sometimes mistake him for Ed Sheeran.
Ed Sheeran only asked him whether the mistake had ever gotten him laid, and that fairly “rapey” comment, insinuating that it would be normal to have sex with a woman who thought you were somebody else… That comment is really the basis for me having no interest in Ed Sheeran the person.
Normal person making a joke: “Hey, you look kinda like a famous hot person. Does that ever get you laid?”
You, a brain genius: “Sex? Like a rapist!?”
Sometimes I forget what ridiculous simps people can become when a celebrity they like is involved. Thanks for setting me straight.
Yeah, I’m sure it was a serious conversation, and not joking at all.
And Trump was joking too when he saw a 10 year old girl and told her he’d be dating her in 10 years. That doesn’t save him from the criticism that only a pedophile would say something like that. You can tell a lot about what a person thinks about by what topic they bring up, even if they frame it as a joke. And you can tell a lot about a person by what sorts of things they’re willing to defend, which is why this is me done with you.
Someone more up with the drama - what did he do exactly? From what I gathered - he organized the tour with artists who were going to do it (the speech), he never protested it, didn’t say anything to Macklemore, allowed all to happen, even came out with a pro-palestine statement, but everyone here is seemingly acting like he was the one who did all the pushback.
Sure, could have a bigger spine, but I don’t quite see what he did so wrong he deserves amongst the biggest hate waves I’ve seen online.
Would it have been better for him and Palestine to never have organized this so that it never have happened? Do you seriously think what happened was a direct harm to Palestine by Ed?
Do you seriously think what happened was a direct harm to Palestine by Ed?
An excellent point.
I mean all his supporting acts had bigger spines.
So just to be clear, the hate is not about what he did, but what he could have done better? The only option for him was to cancel the tour and pay a cancellation fee of around 70 million (10 shows).
Dude organized the whole thing, it naturally received pushback, naturally billionaires did their ultimatums, and now Ed is getting absurd amount of hate because he chose not to pay them 70 million but rather just finish the thing?
Yeah, I still don’t quite get it.
I guess the best option here for everyone would have been to avoid any pro-Palestine artists and it should have been a smooth ride for him, with no hate-wave that’s happening right now.
You can’t expect rationality from the Palestine mob.
He could have done anything to fight back, have the lawyers make an argument kraft broke the deal by firing macklemore, so sheeran wouldn’t be liable. Go on stage and maliciously comply with the performance.
I guess you have a point i dont really know the details, did he hire replacement backups?
Maybe if he goes on stage alone and even says “hey i have to do this show or else i owe $70M” then does an uninspired solo acoustic performance, that would be quite admirable.
I guess as far as i know, and happy to be corrected, he got replacements and still does the shows as best he can, which really is the most cowardly thing he could do in the situation.
Knowing Ed, he already did enough by organizing the tour which ended up bringing attention to the cause. I expect nothing more of him. Therefore I cannot hate something that’s fully expectable and normal. What he did was better than not doing anything, and now we (well, you) all hate him for it lmao
The more I think about it, the more fucked up this is. Straight up bullying.
So he organized a tour so that his zionist patrons can make more money, and when they fired the pro-Palestinian musicians that redeemed his capitalist musical tour for zionist profit, he said OK and moved on with the tour.
The more I think about it, the more fucked up this is. Straight up bullying.
Yup.
I guess the best option here for everyone would have been to avoid any pro-Palestine artists
This is precisely the wrong option.
So you’re then inevitably saying he made the right choice, but simply isn’t the person to yell at others or burn shit down, yet we expect him to, and that’s why we hate him(?)
No.
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Supporting the Palestinians is the right choice.
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Supporting people supporting the Palestinians is right but to a lesser degree.
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Not supporting people supporting the Palestinians is wrong.
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Not supporting the Palestinians is wrong to a greater degree.
Ed Sheeran is in camp 3
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What pro palestine statement? The one where he said he didn’t want to take any sides, and by doing so, took the side of non resistance, supporting Israel in their genocide?
He decided money is more important than supporting an anti-genocidal message. He’s got every right to do so, but everyone else has got every right to call him a fucking pussy who doesn’t have the balls to stand up against a venue boycutting his long time friend because of a few anti-genocide opinions. The venue he ended up siding with had no problem having Kanye West praise Hitler on stage a year or so ago. So do you see why this makes Ed a fucking wanker?
What? No.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2026/sep/15/ed-sheeran-response-macklemore-free-palestine-comment
Even the artists who dropped out made it quite clear Ed is not at fault. He organized the thing for fucks sake.
So do you see why this makes Ed a fucking wanker?
No, I don’t. Just because he isn’t the type of person to attack others, protest loudly, make drama or burn shit down, does not, at least to me, mean he’s a wanker. He did everything to the best of his abilities and you really need to understand what this sentence means
I am appalled by the conflict between Israel and Palestine,” he wrote in the first of several bullet-point statements. “The suffering and pain caused on both sides is a human tragedy.
He’s both-siding this shit ffs. Palestinians are being murdered in a genocide, and this prick is like “Yea, but like, israelis are really having a hard time too”
I knew the moment his goofy lookin aah got famous he’d eventually fuck it up.
His biggest thing was his boyish looks and that doesn’t always carry well into the future. His music was bland and soulless. Shape of you is the weakest love song I have ever heard.
I was excepting his music to become so shitty folks would drop him, but this works too. Now not only is he shitty at making any meaningful music, he is also a shitty person.
He has certainly revealed himself to be a shitty person, but Shape of You is actually a pretty good concept for a song. It’s essentially a song about body acceptance created in an era where people (especially women) face constant, coercive pressure to meet impossible, idealized beauty standards. That’s why it was such a popular song. I know a lot of people who struggle with that topic, and the song really resonated with them.
It’s not like he even wrote the song, either. Pop stars almost never write their own music, and Shape of You is no exception.
Body acceptance? I’ve never heard that. I’m looking at the lyrics right now and all I see is casual sex.
Also, he’s listed first in the songwriting credits. Pretty sure he does write his own songs.
You can swear here you know. There’s no algorithm that’s gonna hide your comment for saying ass lol
I know. I dropped the f bomb in there too lol. Just something I say instead of ass sometimes. I can’t remember where I got it from.
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Sounds more like you hoping for his downfall than knowing. Smells of envy.
I can see how it can be taken that way. The thing is, I have no desire for that fame. Would I like the money? Nope. Not that much. I just want to have enough to get by and take care of my family and go on vacation.
I have heard Ed’s music for a long time. Exes, friends, family. Someone somewhere 3 ft from you, probably in your walls, like spiders. (I jest)
His music is just soulless to me. It has no grip to it. It feels like feeding my ears dry oats. With the whole downfall, I didn’t really except a downfall. More that his shit would fade and folks would see his music as meh.
This, though, is just funny. All he had to do was be a good person.
Every time I think I’ve head the last there’s more. I’m waiting for the next one to say Ed Sheeran run through high speed rotating blades over MM situation.
I don’t love him not taking the moral side, but he’s getting cooked because he doesn’t want to stand up to his keepers.
he’s getting cooked because he doesn’t want to stand up to his keepers.
And because he threw his friend under the bus rather than stand up and use the power he has and lastly because history will judge him complicit through silence.
History will judge him as complicit in silencing Mackelmore while spreading genocide denial as justification.
He didn’t just be silent because his money was threatened, he made the decision to kick Macklemore of his tour (silence him). He isn’t just a coward who stands by and says nothing, he’ll cover your mouth and pull you back to prevent you from speaking.
he threw his friend under the bus rather than stand up and use the power he has
Incoming: Ed Sheeran and Jack Black duet.
Let’s get throught the people not speaking with silence then come back to that. The fucking active players are the real problem and using people are proxy to do something about it is weak.
How long until Ed Sheeran starts his “Why I left the left” grift?
I’m starting to get annoyed that Sheeran is getting all the hate, save an equal amount for kraft, people…
Others like Kraft will not change if they see consequences. They will double down. Others like ES will see this and recognize they can’t sit idle or try to “be neutral” in today’s world without consequence, and there is a chance they will change.
i can hate two things at once!
I think his music all was taken off the air as well.
It’s expected of Kraft
Shareen did perform at kraft’s wedding, so hes pretty complicit, and likely is getting all these sweet venue deals because of kraft.
I’m annoyed that none of this really matters but it’s all I’m hearing about right now.
The WMD’s make their way to Israel and their genocide continues unimpeded.
I can hate both.
I am an infinte fountain of hate. More than enough for everyone.
Then be annoyed. No one has said massage parlor kraft is getting a pass here.
Kraft is a pos and doesn’t care about us and we can’t affect him much.
People like Sheeran have reach and can actually affect people like Kraft, and Sheeran chose not to do so.
this is a warning to other people of influence. be like Macklemore, not like Sheeran. use your influence for good, not to ignore evil.
Enablers are as bad as the people they are enabling IMO
Everybody already hated Kraft, he’s an Epstein perv.
and then there’s also the several cheating scandals in recent memory involving his nfl team (new england patriots)
That too
He’s played at private events for Kraft and his agency manager was friends with Epstein & Ghislain
Yeah, Sheeran did some shit too. They have video or pictures on him. That’s why he folded so fast.
They can both be pieces of shit. We don’t have to choose just one.
He doesn’t deserve hate but he showed that he is very out of touch from reality on a sensitive topic.
He deserve hate he told Mac that saying free Palestine hurt the genocide supporters
Fuck both of them
He deserves it. Check out some of the comments on Macklemore’s YouTube videos. Many of the repeated comments are calling out Sheeran saying “being silent in the face of oppression is choosing the side of the oppressor.” They are right, and a lot of people need to be called out in the same way, and feel the weight of their supposed neutrality. It’s about time some of these “apolitical” arseholes felt some heat.
Well said.
Apolitical = complicit.
Fuck Ed “I’m not complicit” Sheeran.
Exactly. We need to make it uncomfortable to be apolitical. Only those with the most privilege can afford to be apolitical and we clearly have the power to change that.
Apolitical= really means i am conservative, but i want to keep the “peace” and not BITE THE HAND THAT feeds me.
We are supposed to expect better for Sheeran, or at least he makes out to be decent
People like Kraft we expect to be dog shit.
Sheeran deserves it…at any time he could stand for something.
That’s exactly it, we expected better. Regardless of if one likes his music or hates it, he’s built a brand on being a decent human being. Basically every story of him before this week has been one of positivity, I’m pretty sure his rider has always been something like a glass of water and packet of crisps, he’s donated a lot to good causes and generally stood up for those who need it.
Billionaires are parasites on society, and Kraft is the kind of man who influence global politics and facilitate ethnic cleansing to line his own pockets, and nobody is surprised by that.
Sheeran showed that the moment anything is on the line, his entire brand of kindness can be bought. I actually believe he thought he was making the non-decision in this, but that was clearly motivated by a desire to keep his brand out of a situation that is basically a for-profit genocide.
Unless he gets up on stage tomorrow’s show and makes a statement with some balls, his entire persona dissolves, and that is his brand. Sadly we all know he won’t.
I think most stations stopped playing him voluntarily ages ago
I’m looking forward to removing his cameo from GoT. It won’t fix the series but it’ll make the last seasons slightly better.
Nah GoT deserves him. GRRM deserves this after selling out and abandoning the readers who supported his series for years.
I wouldn’t call it selling out. He didn’t abandon the books because of the series. He didn’t know how the books will end. Luckily for him he doesn’t have to end them as the HBO series set him up for life.
He didn’t know how the books will end.
That’s impossible because he both provided the show writers with ending plot points in 2013 and has said multiple times that the books would end differently than the show.
Luckily for him he doesn’t have to end them as the HBO series set him up for life.
You and I have very different operating definitions of “selling out”.
You don’t see an issue with your logic here? He gave the show some pointers on how to end it…knowing that’s what he didn’t want to end it with and knowing the books would end differently. That doesn’t mean he knows how the books are going to end. That means he has chosen one way the books are not going to end and the ways they can end are literally every other possible option.
He’s not going to finish the book series. Him taking a payday and leaving his fans who supported his writing career hanging is selling out.
Anyone who read the books would know why I’m upset. You clearly did not.
I was responding to the first part you said about being impossible that he doesn’t know how the books will end. Your response was not actually a response to me at all. You can be upset all you want, that’s irrelevant.
So, you inserted yourself into a conversation you were not a part of, on a subject you don’t know anything about about … to be an asshole?
I’ll be removing you from my lemmy experience now. Clearly you’ve run out of positive contributions
I don’t ever see myself watching the show again. Maybe the first 3 seasons.
Whiplash!
lol ya The love hate I have for GoT is strong. In 4 days I watched season 1 twice. Once by myself and once with my gf. The early seasons retain much more of the 1st person perspective that made GRRMs world building a unique reading experience.
good thing i never got into watching GOT or its spinoff.
Whoever downvoted you is salty af. I genuinely don’t recommend watching the show. Unless you’re a glutton for punishment.
I refuse to watch the spinoff.
If you want a good fantasy series to read Malazan Book of the Fallen is way better anyway and finished.
And it gets better on a second read because you notice how many things that pay off in the Crippled God are set up way back in Gardens of the Moon
I started reading the first book, got like a third of the way in, then life got in the way. Thanks for reminding me! Gonna start over now
As a big Malazan fan, just know you’re not alone if you sometimes find yourself feeling puzzled on your first read. I had to read several chapters of the first book twice to really get it. Subsequent books went much more smoothly.
Imagine getting cancelled in 2026 for being a billionaire’s bitch.
dint he grow up wealthy at least thats what i heard. of anything rich children who grew up with rich parents, never want to be “poor”
There’s very few people who have made it to where he is in the music industry who didn’t. Not for any particularly nefarious reason (although there’s usually a bit of nepotism involved as these things often go), but because working in the music industry fucking sucks. You make almost no money when coming up and balancing a full time job with recording and playing shows means you miss out on opportunities all the time. Coming from a rich family who can support you while you focus on music full time drastically increases your chances.
Compensation in the music business is only adequate if you’re far out on the right tail of the distribution. Having backing from someone with deep pockets as you get to that point definitely helps.
Maybe not wealthy, but definitely boujie. Privately educated, and daddy runs an art gallery. Not really a rough-handed son of the proletariat.
of anything rich children who grew up with rich parents, never want to be “poor”
I grew up poor. Didn’t have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. I never want to be poor again. But if I had to, I’d probably survive.
You can want to change the system that makes people poor, and still prefer living indoors.
“removed from the always” at one radio station in Ireland
better than none, hopefully the first of many
Easiest recipe to damage your music career: Start shouting politics from the scene.
Second easiest way to damage your music career: Surround yourself with people eager to shout politics from the scene.
Funny. Because it seems like the people “shouting politics” are doing fine and it’s the cowards who won’t speak up against genocide who are feeling the consequences of their cowardice.
Someday, I hope non-celebrities who are indifferent to or supportive of genocode see some consequences too.
“shouting politics” are doing fine and it’s the cowards who won’t speak up against genocide who are feeling the consequences
Tell that to the guy who got himself booted, and to the band that basically burned all bridges with Ed Sheeran.
You know what’s the end game here? “No politics” clausule in the future contracts, with massive fines for breaching it.
Tell that to the guy who got himself booted
I think Macklemore is doing alright. I’d imagine this will be a net plus for his ticket sales, but that’s not why he did it, as far as I can tell.
the band that basically burned all bridges with Ed Sheeran.
That’s also probably a net plus for them, since they can now do their own music and be “the band that stick to their principles and quit Ed Sheeran”.
Meanwhile Sheeran has to find a new opening act, new backing band, etc or risk big forfeit clauses in his performance contracts.
I’m guessing you just don’t have any actual principles you’d put ahead of money or chasing celebrity?
I’m guessing you just don’t have any actual principles
You know who put principles above everything else? Hitler did. To the very end.
Being a fanatic who fucks up somone else’s hard work doesn’t make you a good person.
Yeah. Clearly you have no principles at all if you think having principles is comparable to Hitler.
What a sad and pathetic excuse for a meat sack walking around like a human being. You stand for nothing, so you’ll fall for anything. Apparently up to and including showing your support for a genocide.
I couldn’t name a single song by this guy.
I can name exactly one song, and one song only by the dude; and I never actually listened to the song. (Shape of You).
You’d recognize them if you heard them. They were ubiquitous on the radio 5-10 years ago
They sounded AI-generated before AI music was a thing.
Depends on the radio. I only listen to Spanish public radio and it’s not a station that plays the same songs in a loop all day. It’s back to back curated radio shows. They don’t play Sheeran.
Nope. You can barely tell them apart from AI slop.
That sounds like about the length of time I haven’t listened to the radio because I’ve had a personal device that can either hold or steam music from…
He did that one banger in Game of Thrones but I don’t know if it had a name. It was new.
Everything I’ve ever learned about Ed Sheeran has been against my will.
Hate the fact Ed gets all the shit for not showing the spine, while little to no consequence for Robert Kraft, apparently the man who blackmailed Ed. Like okay, you can blame a multi millionaire for choosing money over humanitarian cause, but are you guys seriously going to drag him through the dirt while the actual culprit sits upon his billion dollar stash? Like wtf, this guy literally cornered ed, and all that happens to him is people are reminded he’s in Epstein files. That’s genuinely unfair.
This is only a half truth. It sounds all nice to give Ed a break and put all the blame on Robert Kraft. That’s a nice fantasy land to live in, but Ed has a responsibility here, and he is failing to live up to that, and criticism of Ed is completely warranted and justified.
I don’t get how Ed is more responsible here than Kraft. The man who literally wanted Macklemore out of the tour for his views, and the one who blackmails Ed Sheeran by threatening his career, and you somehow believe Ed is the one more responsible than Kraft?
Look, Ed’s rich, he has more money than he can spend in his entire life. He was in a position to defend Macklemore, but he chose to not. That’s where his fault lies. But him getting the worst of it instead of Kraft? That’s not fantasy, that’s just people choosing the easier target of the two.
Infact not holding Kraft responsible is exactly what man like him wants and is sending a message that he can do it again, and people will just blame the artist not him.
I didn’t say that Ed is more responsible than Kraft. Never said that. Never implied it. You’re just dreaming up nonsense.
I actually want to hold both of them accountable where you feel like Ed, for some reason, gets a pass and doesn’t have any accountability. That is comical.
The problem is means to inflict consequence. Access.
Sheeran is an entertainer, so we as a public mass have obvious ways to impact him - stop listening to his music, and complain to companies that depend on our participation (radio stations) that we don’t want to hear him.
Most of us have never heard of Kraft. We do not know what discretionary things we can stop doing to hurt his career. He is a billionaire who owns property and business - so he is less vulnerable overall to public outcry.
And you know who is even less vulnerable and more culpable? The current government of Israel. Why arent we attacking them? They are the ones actually guilty of the genocide. Why? Lack of access.
Really, the only way to systemically support Palestinians is to support democratic candidates at the federal level who will shut down US subsidies to Israel.
But people are terrified of our democratic machine because our populace has put its own maniac and his goons in twice.
Compared to facing the existential dread of likely needing some kind of civil conflict here to desperately try to correct the balance of power to something more humane…
Calling radio stations to complain about Sheeran feels pretty good.
Gotta give Europe for giving Israel the shit they deserve. Except Germany.
ED has performed in his wedding, he is totally complicit for his sugar daddy. the fact that he remained silent until the pressure was too great means, he doesnt actually side with macklemore.
