You won’t find codeberg unless you search for it or a repo that lives on it explicitly.
Search in Google, DDG, Kagi, or whatever search engine you like for some generic variant of “where to find source code/ foss tools/ etc”, and show me the combo that returns you Codeberg.
Unlike Github, which is
a well-known place to find code
Codeberg is not, and most people have not heard of it, and won’t find it organically.
First result is the official website, second is github because they migrated very recently (links to codeberg) third is codeberg.
Yes, skill issue. You are complaining that you search for “where to find source code” and complaining that the vapid useless SEO-optimized articles that you find do not mention codeberg? Your search query sucks. Search for <tool> sourcecode or similar instead.
Yeah but what they said is meaningless. Searching for <tool> sourcecode is how you would search for tool’s source code. Not “where to find source code”
Is the code mirrored on GitHub?
If yes, you are right. It’s a skill issue of web searching
If no, you are wrong. It’s sort of like searching for a reddit community for lemmy by searching “AskLemmy lemmy.world”.
(The goal is to highlight that AskReddit was essentially forked to AskLemmy and made it’s own thing that is only on Lemmy)
You clearly haven’t read what I wrote. I wrote that the EU could have set up the repo on codeberg and a mirror on github for visibility. Instead they chose to host on github which is unjustifiable.
I don’t need to know that foot is hosted on codeberg. Searching for its source code reveals that it’s hosted there.
I do not need to know that euro office is hosted on github, searching for its source code reveals that it’s hosted there.
If you search on github itself that is your fault. If the goal is digital sovereignty for europe, hosting code on an american-owned forge when a perfectly viable european one exists is idiotic.
Whether you like the SEO-driving search engine providers or not, they are still the way that most people find things on the internet, and they prioritize Github results. When you’re not searching for “it”, but just searching them by describing things like it, (of which there are many, mostly on Github), it serves your interest to ‘O’ for the ‘SEs’ by putting it somewhere that will get prioritized higher.
If the goal is digital sovereignty for europe
Sovereignty is exercised and evidenced by a state’s ability to enforce the laws they have created. Microsoft operates within Europe. As long as Europe can enforce their laws upon Microsoft (as they can and do now), that relationship is still an exercise of European sovereignty.
Back to my first comment in the thread, “sovereignty != isolation”. Cutting yourself off from external groups does not make you “more sovereign” or something. If Europe cannot enforce their laws upon foreign business entities operating in their jurisdictions, and thus choose to prioritize Europe-headquartered businesses, that would be evidence of far weaker sovereign control of their jurisdiction.
Now, if it’s just a matter of prioritizing supporting European businesses, (call it, say, “Europe First”, or maybe “Make Europe Gr…” oh wait) that’s fine for them to do, and supporting any smaller business or organization over a large one is almost always preferable, but that isn’t and shouldn’t be about the perception of sovereignty or about nationalism, it should be about fighting back against corporate power by not rewarding these de facto monopolies and political meddlers and manipulators with your business.
But once again, that’s not within the scope (or ability) of a simple Office-alike application.
You won’t find codeberg unless you search for it or a repo that lives on it explicitly.
Search in Google, DDG, Kagi, or whatever search engine you like for some generic variant of “where to find source code/ foss tools/ etc”, and show me the combo that returns you Codeberg.
Unlike Github, which is
Codeberg is not, and most people have not heard of it, and won’t find it organically.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=foot+terminal+source
Very first result is codeberg
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=zig+lang+source
First result is the official website, second is github because they migrated very recently (links to codeberg) third is codeberg.
Yes, skill issue. You are complaining that you search for “where to find source code” and complaining that the vapid useless SEO-optimized articles that you find do not mention codeberg? Your search query sucks. Search for
<tool> source codeor similar instead.You’re not showing that they were wrong. You’re showing what they already said.
Yeah but what they said is meaningless. Searching for
<tool> source codeis how you would search for tool’s source code. Not “where to find source code”Is the code mirrored on GitHub?
If yes, you are right. It’s a skill issue of web searching
If no, you are wrong. It’s sort of like searching for a reddit community for lemmy by searching “AskLemmy lemmy.world”.
(The goal is to highlight that AskReddit was essentially forked to AskLemmy and made it’s own thing that is only on Lemmy)
You clearly haven’t read what I wrote. I wrote that the EU could have set up the repo on codeberg and a mirror on github for visibility. Instead they chose to host on github which is unjustifiable.
Skill issue indeed. Reading comprehension, specifically.
Let me spell it out:
“This year will be the year of
the Linux desktopCodeberg!”I don’t need to know that foot is hosted on codeberg. Searching for its source code reveals that it’s hosted there.
I do not need to know that euro office is hosted on github, searching for its source code reveals that it’s hosted there.
If you search on github itself that is your fault. If the goal is digital sovereignty for europe, hosting code on an american-owned forge when a perfectly viable european one exists is idiotic.
Whether you like the SEO-driving search engine providers or not, they are still the way that most people find things on the internet, and they prioritize Github results. When you’re not searching for “it”, but just searching them by describing things like it, (of which there are many, mostly on Github), it serves your interest to ‘O’ for the ‘SEs’ by putting it somewhere that will get prioritized higher.
Sovereignty is exercised and evidenced by a state’s ability to enforce the laws they have created. Microsoft operates within Europe. As long as Europe can enforce their laws upon Microsoft (as they can and do now), that relationship is still an exercise of European sovereignty.
Back to my first comment in the thread, “sovereignty != isolation”. Cutting yourself off from external groups does not make you “more sovereign” or something. If Europe cannot enforce their laws upon foreign business entities operating in their jurisdictions, and thus choose to prioritize Europe-headquartered businesses, that would be evidence of far weaker sovereign control of their jurisdiction.
Now, if it’s just a matter of prioritizing supporting European businesses, (call it, say, “Europe First”, or maybe “Make Europe Gr…” oh wait) that’s fine for them to do, and supporting any smaller business or organization over a large one is almost always preferable, but that isn’t and shouldn’t be about the perception of sovereignty or about nationalism, it should be about fighting back against corporate power by not rewarding these de facto monopolies and political meddlers and manipulators with your business.
But once again, that’s not within the scope (or ability) of a simple Office-alike application.