What the hell else could be the point of winning control of Congress? Putting trump in a cell is the last hope for American democracy (if any such hope exists).
Cell? Try the guillotine.
They should, just because that’s the tool they’re explicitly supposed to use to curb an of of control executive, but I also don’t particularly care about them doing it. It’s a box to check and a media spectacle to give them an opportunity to highlight the abuses, which they’ll probably flub, but it’s also not particularly important.
What I want from a Democratic Congress is them to say “no” on everything, pass good governance laws he’ll have to veto, and to use congressional subpoenas to compel testimony to put all the crimes and corruption and inhumanity on the record. Because I don’t think there’s a way to meaningfully provide justice in the next two years, but I want bringing them to justice in two years to be the driving goal.
Oh, and zero out funding for ICE and the CBP. Let them coast on the giant pile of money the Republicans gave them. Not one cent more from Democrats. That’s a message that will motivate me. Not more promises of performance.
No. They will not.
Hakeem is secretly meeting Kushner
AIPAC Dems are funding AIPAC Republicans over DSA candidates
Here is Tammy duckworth
https://youtu.be/Cm53m1L4Vas?is=tylEWtlOOoOuycnv
They won’t do anything and there will just be show trials with a new mueller/smith and a whole lot of “aww we just missed the margin for the vote, make sure you vote HARDER”
yep, its really all the voters fault.
/s
In a sense, yes. Fool me once and all that.
any democrat that isnt campaigning on 100% unfucking what Trump did, is a democrat in service to the republican agenda.
and its especially galling hearing someone like duckworth say shit like “well, we shouldnt be impeaching, and maybe we can kinda sorta maybe undo a fragment of what he did, perhaps by chance, because i think benefitting the american people means appeasing trump.”
Hate to say it, but there won’t be a candidate working for Team Defuck. Democrats capitulate. They are the Party of Bygones.
They can see how broken it is, but in their minds justifying not fixing it because of the effort it will take is easier than owning the problem and forming a solution.
i feel like the democrats used up the next 40 years of effort getting the Obamacare passed.
On purpose, to give Wall St the bonanza profits the ACA created, and to ensure that they have at least one. Maybe two generations of shushing anyone who wants to agitate for a single payer system by whinging about “defending the ACA” instead of actually doing anything their donors might not like.
Why ask? I mean, they already did a few days ago.
Per your article:
The latest attempt, by Rep. Al Green (D-Texas), garnered 147 votes to advance the measure, all from Democrats, in a vote earlier this month.
Eighteen Democrats joined Republicans in voting to table the articles, including some of the most conservative Democrats in the caucus like Representatives Jared Golden (D-Maine) and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez — who have also twice broken with their caucus to help buoy Republican priorities in recent weeks. Another 46 Democrats voted “present,” including House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-New York).
Per your comment: How does that answer shit?
You asked if Dems would do X, they already have, multiple times. Would you be surprised if they did it AGAIN?
Are you so confused as to whether the party that has impeached Trump twice and filed articles more than that, who HAS PRESENTLY FILED IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES…
Is it that you can’t imagine they would (checks notes) do just what they are currently doing… AGAIN?
The smarter question is what will republicans do? Of course there’s ample evidence of that as well. Plenty of evidence all around of what sides folks fall on. So I’m confused why you seem so ignorant of what happens next? What’s your real question?
You also believe pro wrestlers have real beef with each other, don’t you?
I believe if you are considering this with all the weight of pro wrestling… then you should do yourself a favor and stop posting. Your beliefs aren’t worth the effort. Hearing them isn’t either.
You imply keyfab but you’re not allowing otherwise. Dems are doomed if they do (they already have yet you call bs) and doomed if they don’t (you call bs).
Maybe you cannot understand, and maybe mean to say “I don’t believe Dems will do anything meaningful”. Thats valid, but instead you make us suffer your stupid posts full of worthless ignorant questions?
Will they? Won’t they? You know you don’t care and will call them shitty no matter what.
This is all a waste of your hot air. Noise. Pollution. Stupidity you cannot seem to contain.
I don’t mean to say “I don’t believe Dems will do anything meaningful” for the same reason I don’t mean to say “if I drop something it will fall to the floor”. Things that obvious don’t need to be said.
What I do mean to say is that your view of politics in general and in particular you’d belief that there’s any real difference between the capitalist lap dog parties has as much basis in reality as the view of the yokel in the stands that Mad Dog Marvin and Honest Henry Henshaw actually hate each other and want to beat each other’s asses.
It wasn’t meant to be serious analysis, because you said nothing serious worth analyzing. But keep voting for the ratchet out of your fear of the wheel. It’s been doing great things for you so far, I’m sure a lot more of the same will come if you keep it up.
If anyone believes they actually will, I have a brand-new shiny perfect example of how we got here to begin with that I’ll sell for a reasonable sum.
I mean they already voted for impeachment twice
And remind me…. How’d that turn out?
The question is will they impeach him a third time, not will he be removed from office. You’re saying they won’t impeach him a third time. I think they will. To answer your question, nothing came of it. But that’s not the question the article is asking
So…. We’re asking wether or not a pointless and ineffective thing will, or will not happen- and just ignoring the entire point that wether it does or doesn’t- won’t matter in the least, but will cost a fuck ton of time, effort and taxpayer money for no good reason.
Do I understand this correctly?
I mean yeah that’s literally the question in the article
No, it’s not. It’s just asking the typical sensationalist copium bullshit. It doesn’t ask why they’re bothering since it’s meaningless.
Yes they are asking the typical sensational bullshit. Correct. The headline is literally “If Democrats Win Control of Congress in the Midterms, Will They Impeach Trump a Third Time?”. Your first comment was no they won’t, and I’m saying they have already done it 2 times before, and I’m assuming they will do it again… No one ever said it would do any good or if he would be removed from office.
To predict the future we must look at the past:
- “Will the Jan 6 hearing recommend criminal charges for Trump?”
- “No.”
- “Will Biden direct his AG to prosecute Trump.”
- “No. In fact the AG should be a republican!”
- “Will democrats push Biden to get an AG who will prosecute Trump for Jan 6?”
- “No.”
- “Will democrats push Biden to prosecute Trump for stealing and hoarding classified documents?”
- “No.”
- “Will Biden revoke top security clearance of Trump election rigger and enemy saboteur Elon Musk for having secret meetings with V. Putin?”
- “No. Let’s tariff Chinese solar panels because solar panels are spies now.”
- “Will democrats stonewall the funding and creation of Trumps Nazi ICE army?”
- “Thank you ICE!”
In a democracy Biden shouldn’t attempt to influence any action against Trump. That’s the job of the Justice Department. Trump has made political judicial activism so normal that people just expect this kind of political interference.
Depends if it serves their self-interest, the wishes of their corporate masters and AIPAC bosses to do so.
The only possibility of this happening is if Israel activates their representatives in the House and Senate, but I only see that happening if Trump acts up against them.
The impeachment process is broken. Its like a referee throwing a flag on the play against “the red team” and then asking “the red team” players if there was really a violation and if a penalty should be applied.
It was intentionally designed to be super difficult to impeach a sitting president, as the founders wanted to maintain political stability and discourage witch hunting by the majority party in Congress.
The problem is, it serves to maintain political inefficiencies. It creates lame-duck governments that accomplish nothing. The “stability” is just maintaining the status quo, and we’re stuck with incompetent or corrupt presidents for their entire term, as well as an inefficient, useless Congress. A lot of damage can be done in four years.
Personally, I think it needs to be a lot easier, like how other countries can oust a PM at any time for incompetence and/or corruption.
If establishment Dems gain a majority this midterm, we’re stuck with another lame-duck government for two more years, as it’s not a veto-proof majority that can impeach or make constitutional amendments.
That’s why I think the DSA are a good thing. Their platform includes abolishing the Senate. That would be a tremendous advance in making government more efficient at getting things done.
I would think they would automatically start the impeachment proceedings. If they don’t, I think it answers the bigger question “Was there only one party all along? If so, is it the billionaire class that is steering the ship for us?”.
The capital class holds all the cards. Their wishes will be done regardless of which of the two parties has power.
They’re just the modern version of the ruling class. They’ve always dominated since the dawn of civilization. Socialist movements have attempted to overthrow the capital class with varying degrees of success.
There will always be a ruling class. I’d just prefer if it were the working class.
They’ll keep trump around as long as they can. Being just to the left of trump gives them much more area to operate in than being truly a left leaning party. More bribe checks to cash. he’s the best thing to happen to the dem centrists since… the start of the republic maybe.
I mean, why not? They’re great at hollow showmanship that does nothing meaningful, it’s their bread and butter!
Who cares? He was already impeached twice and it literally had zero effect.
Just because Senate Republicans won’t convict didn’t mean the progressives and Democrats shouldn’t still impeachment and make a should effort to hold Republicans accountable in manner that idiot America can understand.
Did they understand the previous two times?
Will they? Yes.
Will it matter? No.
If they can actually get an impeachment through it’d be one of the most significant moments in American political history.
I’m all for it, though a President Vance would be bad too
