Someone buys a used Ryzen 7 5800X3D. The first-person shooter “Valorant” won’t start with it because the previous owner was a cheater.

Someone buys a used Ryzen 7 5800X3D. “Valorant” and other Riot games won’t start with it because the previous owner was a cheater.

  • BlackLaZoR@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 days ago

    I doubt this is true. Hardware bans are an extremely rare occurance. Last time I remember PunkBuster did that, but only for attempts of tampering with the anti cheat software itself

  • cecilkorik@lemmy.caEnglish
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    6 days ago

    I’m not saying this is impossible, it certainly is possible, and clearing or disabling the TPM is always a good idea on used PC hardware or even new hardware. And I’m not saying I know if that’s what actually happened here. But I have to put on my “press F to doubt” hat, and point out that realistically it always seems to turn out that like 95% of the time when someone claims they were “banned for cheating and this is the reason why” no matter how dramatic the story, it turns out they were actually cheating, because the kind of people who compulsively cheat at games are the same kind of people who compulsively cheat their way through life by twisting reality into these wild narratives that sometimes they actually even believe themselves. Riot giving a bunch of detailed information about how their anti-cheat detected this guy seems implausible, and meaningless since they won’t unban him anyway. They have nothing to gain from allegedly explaining all that, and if they’re unwilling to unban the person they might as well assume it’s still the actual cheater they’re talking to, and why bother telling them anything at all?

    This all sounds like a load of baloney to me. Plausible, believable baloney, but still baloney.

    • ルルㇲ@retrofed.comOPEnglish
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      6 days ago

      F to doubt”

      🖱️ Run as Administrator

      the following command:
      # wmic cpu get serialnumber

        • Gaja0@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          5 days ago

          The old bat file that company depends no longer works because windows forced update uninstalled wmic, which was the day I learned what wmic was.

    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.caEnglish
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      6 days ago

      However, from the studio’s perspective, it would be much easier to write identification hashes into the Trusted Platform Module. Because this TPM sits as a coprocessor directly in the CPU in most PCs, the hash remains when switching to a new PC.

    • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      6 days ago

      It is unclear how Riot uniquely identifies processors. While CPUs report a hardware ID to the operating system, they only reveal which model it is. A Ryzen 7 5800X3D, for example, is not distinguishable from another Ryzen 7 5800X3D without further ado.

      Intel’s Pentium 3 processors from 1999 untypically had unique identifiers. At the time, they caused protests: data protectionists feared that the readable serial number would act like a permanent cookie and make users trackable without gaps.

      Riot could create hardware fingerprints for tracking, for example, with a combination of clock behavior and voltages. Each processor behaves slightly differently and can thus be identified.

      • m-p{3}@lemmy.caEnglish
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        4 days ago

        I guess that could be done through the TPM 2.0 Endorsement Key (EK), which I believe is stored in the CPU fTPM (and not the motherboard) when dealing with AMD

      • ルルㇲ@retrofed.comOPEnglish
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        6 days ago

        data protectionists feared that the readable serial number would act like a permanent cookie and make users trackable without gaps.

        oh no, our age is showing. quick, cue gen α brainrot!

          • ルルㇲ@retrofed.comOPEnglish
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            6 days ago

            I pray you don’t go to playstores.
            We survived shockwaveGame brainrot,
            we’ll survive J2MErot.
            It’s bad bad bad bad bad bad bad.

            • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              6 days ago

              I couldn’t care less for mobile games. I don’t even use normal Android or PlayStore. My reply was more of a joke. Currently we are also living through AiGame braintrot, especially on PC.

              • ルルㇲ@retrofed.comOPEnglish
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                6 days ago

                My reply was more of a joke.

                same. look up the dates of shockwave & J2ME. I am implying we always had brainrot. The issue is that some choose to be addicted. We choose to circumvent.

        • lath@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 days ago

          Apologies. It would seem those are specific for Intel CPUs only. My mistake.

          For AMD CPUs there seems to be a unique serial number. It is engraved physically on it, but I have yet to find how to view it through software check.

          • ルルㇲ@retrofed.comOPEnglish
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            6 days ago

            oic. I thought you were abbreviating some slang I have yet to learn.

            AMD uses OPN🔗.

            On Riot games, all it had to do was
            # wmic cpu get serialnumber

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 days ago

      Does the CPU have a serial number that’s visible to the system?

      “I didn’t read the article that attempts to explain this and explicitly states CPUs don’t have a unique ID.”