Democrats spent the last year asking where their Joe Rogan was. Hasan Piker is one of the few left-wing figures with the audience they covet — but the party is deeply hostile to the spontaneity and independence that make figures like him appealing.
Democrats spent the last year asking where their Joe Rogan was.
I have never once heard anyone say that before reading it here. Rogan is an ill-informed person that uses his significant audience to spread misinformation and modern day mysticism against actual science while at the same time gives a platform to some truly horrible people.
Why on Earth would Democrats want that for themselves?
Ask Gavin Newsome he seems like he loves bringing nazi and fucking hate mongers on his show.
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First, thank you for posting sources to support your claim. I looked at most of them.
Democrats are on the hunt for their own Joe Rogan from May 2025
The tagline on the article says: “Party leaders and mega-donors want to counter MAGA’s online momentum by recreating a digital right-wing ecosystem for the left”
Okay so Party Leaders and megadonors want this right? But the article continues…
“As Democrats plot a return from the electoral wilderness, a growing chorus of party figures has begun to push for a liberal-leaning alternative to the right’s digital dominance.”
So gone are the megadonors now, and we’re down to “party figures”. What happened to the megadonors? The article actually tells us…
“That belief has led to party mega-donors being ‘inundated with overtures’ to open their wallets for the development of an ‘army of left-leaning online influencers.’”
Okay, so the megadonors aren’t asking a Demo-Rogan, someone is asking megadonors to pay for a Demo-Rogan. But so far we still have no names of any of the cited “party leaders”. However we do have a named Democrat figure that is against a Demo-Rogan:
“The notion that victory is possible if they ‘spend enough billionaire money’ to create a Rogan equivalent ‘speaking in Democratic talking points’ is ‘laughable,’ said Emily Jashinsky at UnHerd.”
This supports my statement.
If you do run across the unnamed party leaders, I’d be interested in knowing who they are.
Democrats seeking to buy the ‘next Joe Rogan’ of the left after 2024 election defeat also May 2025
Sorry, I don’t consider Fox News as a news source. I skipped this one.
Could This 20-Year-Old Be One of the Democrats’ Bro Whisperers? from December 2024
I don’t have a NYT subscription so I couldn’t read the whole article, but the part I could read was talking about a young man with a politics driving youtube channel. I don’t consider that a Democratic Joe Rogan.
Can Democrats win back podcasting? We asked 6 popular show hosts to weigh in from November 2024
The article author openly says he’s not asking for a Demo-Rogan.
“Also, the idea of a ‘liberal Joe Rogan’ has been floated a lot since the election and I don’t want to just parrot that since it’s not really what I mean”.
Note: The “the idea of a liberal Joe Rogan” is a hyperlink to yet another article. I read that one too. There’s no claim of a Demo-Rogan there either. The closest the author gets to is this:
"If liberals ever hope to compete with such a successful messaging apparatus, they’re going to have to do more than create clones of Crooked Media. They will have to elevate, or build from the ground up, captivating public figures who connect with vast audiences including, but not limited to, disaffected young men—and entertain the hell out of them. "
Lowry: The Left can’t create a new Joe Rogan
That last article actually supports my position, not yours. It says this:
“Progressives are correct about the power of Rogan and his cohort of bro podcasters, but they don’t understand how thoroughly anathema their ideology and cultural sensibility are to this kind of programming. If Left did manage to create a progressive Joe Rogan in a lab, as soon as he said something controversial out in the wild, he’d be subject to cancelation.”
It’s definitely been a topic for a couple of years now.
At least from the articles you posted that is more of a incorrect statement than correct. Yes, I see how you came to that conclusion and in some very narrow readings there are pieces of truth but, I think your premise is disingenuous to claim to be generally true. Keep in mind, I’m not attacking you as a person. I’m not calling you a bad person. I just disagree with your conclusions.
The idea of Demo-Rogan messaging is a repeat of the 1990s where Al Frankin and others created [“Air America”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_(radio_network) to counter the Republican mouthpiece of the day Rush Limbaugh. Air America failed there too for the same reason a Demo-Rogan would today. Democrats don’t tune into radio for half truths and empty open ridicule of the GOP even though the GOP richly deserves ridicule, especially with trump in office.
I stand by my original statement.
A second downvote it is then.
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Huh. So you weren’t answering my posted question, but picking out the first sentence in my post. Thank you for clarifying your statement.
Okay, we have nothing further to talk about then.
Ah yes, the shady and shitty democratic party is refusing to endorse a shady and shitty person. Missed opportunity. Tho i see why because the democratix party is trying to appeal to centrists while hasan is trying to appeal to more left leaning audiences while people who actually want change and take sacrifices for it dont get a voice. Last time i commented something like this i got downvoted to onlivion cause people refuse to believe hasan is not an actual leftist just a china shill(china being a very much capitalist country).
Still being downvoted without any constructive criticisms, I see.
It’s probably the china thing, people suck up to china for no reason too.
Is there a stipulation that one must leave “constructive” criticism before one downvotes?
No one owes you or the guy you’re commenting to anything. Stop thinking your argument is somehow proven if you get no or negative engagement. That’s just fucking stupid.
I agree with this actually as the original commenter lol. Downvotes are to signal disagreement, the same way you dont have to comment under anything you like, you dont have to comment under something you dislike. Its still funny that with 9 downvotes nobody has engaged while with 9 upvotes they would usually. I guess the one counterintuitive thing is people would think downvoting someone means you disagree which creates room for discussion, while positive engagement actually seems to create more discussion which may actually be a good thing. Also i speak of hasan in a very offensive manner in my comment(which i did because ive really had enough of him) which people will alsl engage less with. If i said “i dont like hasan” people would try to change my opinion but if i said “hope hasan gets thanos snapped” theres no opinion to change, thats dead set.
While I don’t agree with your opinion on the situation I appreciate your overall composure here.
I will share that, from my perspective, he speaks for a far more radicalized and younger left voice (read: that does not mean I am arguing against the reasoning behind that radicalization nor against radicalization either) which is a voice that crucial to be heard.
The left in America, overall, has capitulated far too much to the center for the sake of ‘stability’ and yet, here we are, with a populist radical conservative destroying the foundations we need to progress forward.
Yeah i just dont get why hes treated like a saint. He seems like a pretty bad person, but a usefull one. I completely agree that politics need to change in the us, in the whole world actually, but people like him are useful to gether and teach masses in the beginning but after that are a bad influence.
Hasan is sketchy as fuck.
The centrist dems are even sketchier than that. Whats comes after ‘sketchier than fuck’?
Known for.
The thing is the Democrats today are nowhere near the left, more like right center, while MAGA is far right.
Interesting, I have never heard this claim before
I just don’t think “Dems” really exist. People left of MAGA just vote for Democrats because it is what they have to choose from. People who want communism or socialism or social programs or just more fallbacks all want them in varying ways. People say “corporate Democrats” which is basically the majority of what the democratic party has represented for the last decade. A lot of people want to reform what the democratic party is because it is the only structure that exists so that’s why people want to primary everyone. In the end though that means that a corporate Democrat, and all those other groups are voting to replace the same people, but they don’t have the same views/wants. So there is no one person that would be an agreeable spokesperson for all of the various beliefs. Someone who believes the means of production should be owned by the people will never agree with someone who believes the means of production should be own by private entities. So they would be shitting all over each other’s “spokesperson” or whatever.
Exactly this
Hasan is uncontrollably brain broken from the roid rage.
You’re thinking of actual Joe Rogan
and many more but no I was talking about hasan
Maybe we should not want the tankie, dog torturer?
Point on your Destiny waifu pillow where Hasan touched you.
Man, destiny sure lives rent free in your heads holy shit.
But he exposes people who believe anything they read so easily.
Yeah they already have a Hasan Piker, his name is Hasan Piker
Puppy killers on one side and dog torturers on the other. Canines can’t catch a break.
Piker is an act of a conservative’s idea of a leftest
The party wants a “Joe Rogan of the left” so they can focus on controlling one person to drag millions of people along into whatever fresh hell their billionaire donors are cooking up. Just like the Joe Rogan of the right.
I do not want there to be a Joe Rogan of the left.
The problem is that what they actually want is “Joe Rogan of the middle” and they already have that in the form of basically every single newscaster that isn’t a magatard.
magaturd, please
Joe Rogan is a right wing manifestation. The left wing equivalent is some sort of group, not an individual. That’s one of the fundamental differences between the two sides.
Well actually the party is composed of many different people, a variety of backgrounds, and many of them don’t want a Joe Rogan of the left because they know that it’s just b*******. But it’s a cute idea to pretend that they do.
I think it’s clear “the party” here is referring to top party leadership. When people say “Washington holds negotiations with Moscow”, do you object that, in fact, very few citizens of either city were involved?
We used to have a Joe Rogan of the left, he was Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
RFK Jr was never left
Neoliberal maybe but they’re right wingers unless you still drink that high fructose American koolaid where Democrats are “radical far left”
I guess you don’t remember Ring of Fire and Air America Radio. Granted, it’s been a minute. 😉
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Ring of Fire is still going isn’t it?
As a podcast, yeah, but long without RFK Jr.
Just like the preferred establishment candidates, they want an empty vessel with no political ideology they can fill with money and operate like a puppet to sheepdog for their own purposes.
Democrats are shit but God what I wouldn’t give for politics to no longer be a playground for twitch streamers, failed TV actors, retired sports stars and podcasters. Anyone with a mic and inflammatory hot takes can be a political force majeure without any risk, effort or leg work.
Even though they’re both influencers, I respect the shit out of Kat Abughazaleh for the bare minimum fact that she’s actually out there organizing and helping her community. Hassan can say similar stuff from his $2.7m mansion but that doesn’t mean he deserves the same respect.
Fuck Hasan he’s a fake ass animal abuser
Better a “fake ass” animal abuser than a real animal abuser.
Why are you so confident he didn’t hurt his dog? /gen
He is a real animal abuser
I had hit reply to make the same joke before seeing your reply. lol. Dammit, internet, we all share one brain!
Pretending Democrats wanted a Hasan Piker is a neat way to spin things.
Democrats never wanted Hasan. They are a liberal party, and Hasan is a staunch anti-liberal. Why pretend like he was ever wanted by them?
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Democrats want a moron?
