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No one starts with a peer reviewed journal article. Most, if not all people, start with a cool experiment or demo or see or handle a cool critter/plant.
PhD here.
Be interested in whatever you want. Someone else said speculative fiction. I’m not aware of a scientist who didn’t grow up reading that. Just be curious and care about if you’re correct.
Young people now just don’t have easy access to popular science from people who are telling them the truth, and I don’t know what to do about that. You need to learn how the basics of reality work before you can gain the proper level of skepticism.
PhD - Pet (herbivorous) Dinosaurs
Reviews a paper -
“Oh my, I had no idea so many scientists are absolutely terrible at writing and basic math.”
Fair point. Communication is hard, and scientific writing is for a specific group not a general audience.
Alternatively:
“I like science when it directly contributes to my quality of life or proves me right, but not when it proves me wrong or needs funding.”
People love to whine about the “credential class” but literally nobody is going to slog through gen-ed courses without some kind of short term incentive structure. Like we actually know what this looks like because of the Internet - without the academic ivory tower, everyone just cites wikipedia articles to each other until the last expert dies, at which point wikipedia itself slowly dissolves in Brawndo.
I miss my Jstore membership
I like it when other people do science and then tell me about the exciting parts.
Penn and Teller said they love being cheerleaders of science and I’ve always liked that take when discussing the difference between science and science communication.
Honestly this is fine.
As long as we get the smart people into the real shit, most of us are allowed to specialize in other aspects of society. This is by design.
Just please, believe our smart people.
Oh and remove all profit motives. Until next time!
Just give me some new stuff to pump into my veins! I am vaccine-maxxing!
Okay fine; I love TRIVIA!
Me watching my silly little videos about silly little Ordovician fossils and how they may or may not be a sponge.
Me: I love science
Me, trying to design an experimental with adequate controls: frustratedly curse-mumbling in a dark room filled with crumpled-up statistics papers
Ah shit, I got good results but accidentally changed two things on that test run.
But that’s the thing. The average person has no need to know the deep nuts and bolts of science. Being enthusiastic and engaged with it is far better than willingly being blind and ignorant.
For instance, you don’t need to understand the exact mechanism of how anesthesia works in order to very much appreciate it when you’re undergoing testicular surgery.
deep nuts
undergoing testicular surgery
Is there something you want to tell us?
It hurts when I pee.
They like science fiction… Half of that is “science” i guess
Relevant Cyanide & Happiness:
Is human hair being the same material as nails really considered a flashy fact? That’s about as “tedious” as you can get
I don’t think we should gatekeep people educating themselves, no matter how mundane. Especially if it’s mundane.
What a disappointing and totally uncalled for response from Green, lmao.
Nothing factually wrong with what he said; it’s just insufferable in the context of that conversation. Oozes that “me, an intellectual:” energy.
This is my main problem with most of those rants in the Roiland seasons of Rick and Morty. I love the show and Rick being an asshole works so well for the character dynamic, but the show doesn’t really do it’s due diligence in framing Rick as an actual asshole when he goes on those rants. It’s a big reason why I think the latest season is so good. The writers seem comfortable in dipping back into that well without Roiland and the show does a great job of framing how poisonous and emotionally immature this kind of know-it-all attitude is.
Yeah fuck Green’s gatekeeping ass, some people who love science don’t GET to be grad turkeys because of finances, disability, being the wrong gender or color, etc.
tbf, he didn’t say anything about that, and considering the nowadays’ information availability, you don’t have to be a “grad turkey” to study something at the same depth.
He said “spend their lives on…”, that’s a level of commitment a lot of people simply can’t have.
“A lot of people” don’t commit to the thing, because “A lot of people” aren’t into the thing in the first place. As a very dysfunctional human being myself, who often struggles with bringing themself to do something even in the spheres they love, i still fail to see your logic. You don’t need to spend any amount of time to prove you love something. You don’t need to prove anything in the first place. But do you really love it, if you don’t wanna commit to it, go out of your way to find the opportunity? Could you really say you love sweet buns, if you don’t bake them, don’t buy them, and when you accidentally stumble upon one, you only eat the raisins out of it, throwing out the rest? I don’t think so. There’s nothing wrong with liking only raisins. But saying that you love sweet buns would be very dishonest and misleading of you in that case, wouldn’t it?
Finally, spending your life on something has nothing to do with the shitty paywalled education system.
Mmmm science bum
I appreciate science but I definitely love dat ass.
I love science. Half my feed is various types of science, the other half is politics, and a secret 3rd half is shitposting about both
I like doughnuts. That doesn’t mean I like baking them or reading the recipe.
What about fucking them?
The…
The article is the dognut.
The CGI space image with the caption is the powdered sugar leftover from the doughnut. I like to snort it, myself.
Uh, I am not a fan of dognuts, nor am I fully comfortable with the process of getting them.
Show me on the donut where the reviewer touched you.
I’d say that the article is the recipe, since it’s a set of instructions for how to reproduce the doughnut. The doughnut might be the fruits of whatever the science discovered
No.
The article is the product of scientific research. Its the final product. It the thing.
All that other stuff is derivative. The donut is the paper.
Sure, sorry no one says “I love the applications and derivatives of science” but like yeah people like the donut (the application of the recipe) and not the recipe. Just like people can appreciate the applications of science (cool tech and stuff) without enjoying the underlying research and math and such.
Science is discovery. Engineering is applications. Science literacy is not confusing the two.
Science isn’t done, in a “spiritual sense” other than for the discovery. If you are pushing research forward with a specific goal in mind: Thats engineering.
If you have a question, and you have an open mind and are willing to accept the conclusions your evidence forces you to make whether you like it or not: That’s science.
Sometimes science informs engineering in awesome and clever ways. But the point of science isn’t engineering, which is what the vast majority of people interpret science as being.
