All the distros use fprintd, but that’s not related to Framework aside from the laptop using a sensor that fprintd supports.

up until a few months ago, i’ve been only been using linux-first companies because of battery life and power management and it spoiled me because i came to expect a windows/mac-level of performance in this realm.

i tried going back to a windows-first laptop most recently and the power management has definately gotten better under linux than it was the last time i tried in 2013, but it still leaves something to be desired like your lenovo laptop does and it makes me wish that framework were more candid about linux user experiences to justify the additional costs that they’re expecting from us.

In my experience Power Management is broken on Windows and Linux the same way. Some laptops do work better then others, but none of both Systems works fully reliable. My work HP Elitebook 845 G8 also has the problem of waking itself up in my backpack and boiling to Death (empty Battery). And it is running on Windows.

Don’t know if Apple with their MacBooks have similar problems.

You shouldn’t buy based on promises or assumptions. But if I had to guess, I’d say an OLED panel may come eventually. And it would likely be backwards compatible.

Original FW13 owners already had the original glossy panel, then the new matte higher resolution panel came out as a drop in replacement, and now this new touch panel is also a drop in replacement.

I already have a FW13 with the matte high res panel, I won’t be going to touch panel. But maybe if they do an OLED I’d jump to it.

My plan is not to upgrade unless I need to. If something breaks, it’ll get the newest version of whatever that thing is.

Unless I feel hampered by my 7040u in 3 or 4 years, then maybe I’ll do something about it? But I really don’t need that much horsepower in my life.

I’m just glad I have the option. And happy to support a company giving me the option.

this is the price only for the input/top cover: https://frame.work/de/de/products/laptop13pro-input-cover-kit?v=FRANKK00A7 If you want to also upgrade the Back Cover you will need an additional Kit: https://frame.work/de/de/products/laptop13pro-bottom-cover-kit?v=FRANKN000H

I fully agree!

As much as I want to support Linux/repairability friendly companies, I want to avoid creating e-waste even more.

That’s why, for my administrative uses, I might never buy a new PC again but only get Linux friendly used ones.

As for gaming, I’ll still probably get a Steam Machine on top of my Steam Deck (got it used) as you need something more powerful and can’t just get something from 2012 if you want to be able to play recent games.

Ofc if you want to throw away your old laptop you should give it to me instead :3

Unironicaly though there should be a mass program where old PC parts and tech are donated from people who don’t want it to people who do (for example an old laptop that a retro collector might want or a broken laptop someone else might be willing to fix)

Yep, instead upgrade when you feel to and keep the old parts as replacement in case something break, repurpose it or give it to someone that will use it;

I’ve seen people using old framework parts for home servers too

Reduce

Reuse

Recycle

And in that order

Agreed! Plus I buy almost all tech reburbished or used these days. Most of the time it’s a way better deal especially when running Linux. At worst sometimes the battery is bad so I only buy stuff where that is replaceable.

They could put it on eBay. Win-win?

I think you can just get the new Pro input cover, right? That’s essentially just the trackpad. The aluminum of the cover itself is probably a fairly negligible part of that cost.

What’s the issue with HiDPI ? I’m out of the loop.

Lol, just because you chose to use DEs that don’t support it well doesn’t mean every customer that wants high resolution has to suffer.

In the announcement they say the resolution (2880x1920) was chosen to be used at 2x scaling for that reason.

I dont fully get that? Its not a multiple of 1920x1080, so thats unclear to me.

Just put a lower resolution and good. No need to deal with buggy scaling implementations and lower battery life, for a difference you only see with your nose on the screen.

Then it could have been just a FullHD or 2k display as well? Yes.

All of the OSs that ship by default on Framework machines properly support HiDPI. I think it’s fair to expect that shipping with HiDPI is fine. Yes, or course, you can put your own OS on it, but I don’t complain to Dell when my preferred OS doesn’t support some piece of hardware properly.

Is there a proper Desk Solution for OcuLink target available on the market?

Everything that I saw is rather flimsy:

• No proper mounting for the GPU to keep it securely in place
• No enclosure to protect it from outside effects (cat putting its Paq into the Fan)
• Need to “trick” the ATX/SFX PSU into supplying power by jumpers

You could insinuate that, with some bad will. But how is it with the big names in the market?

I was wondering about this. Do you have any resources for what they’ve been up to since their vile “big tent” statements?

I can’t figure out if this is true or not.

They did sponsor Omarchy, and they do still list on their linux support page that they seed hardware to Omarchy, but on their official list of sponsorships (included in the spoiler/hidden block so as not to spam/monopolize the thread) they do not list Omarchy.

So I don’t know what the current situation is, but it does appear they’re distancing themselves from it a bit. They last posted on Bluesky about Omarchy 8 months ago (about when the scandals happened).

Actually: in writing this I realized that Hyprland is also problematic, or maybe they’re not anymore, but they are listed in their sponsorships. So I don’t actually know what that means.

https://frame.work/ca/en/blog/framework-sponsorships

Is there a better option for a modular laptop with good Linux support?

Why should I care about that?

I’m out of the loop with this.

From the other reply I saw something about funding a guy who is behind omarchy. What has that guy done to be considered a fascist?

After some digging, is it the hyprland guy, and the drama surrounding it?

The entire premise is a cashgrab for morons that don’t know any better.

I guarantee you, most people with framework laptops have them collecting dust along with their raspberry pis.

Just out of curiosity: What is it that you actually need HDR for in a professional context? Movie/Film making? Because apart from that I only see HDR used in media consumption related topics (playing Games, watching 4K HDR movies).

If bribing a fascist president with a literal gold bar, refusing to comply with EU law and then complying maliciously years later, global tax dodging, and anti-competitive behavior isn’t enough to piss you off sufficiently, I’m not sure what will.

When the Motorola Graphene phones are available, I’m dumping my iPhone, which is my last Apple device.

My Asus Tuff has libinput issues with Wayland that cause mouse click problems. Hotkeying everything is not practice, so it kind of sucks.

Such a cool device. I hope many other vendors will eventually include that form factor in their lineup. I can’t wait to get my hands on a high-end Thinkpad DUO.

Care to elaborate?