What incentive do I have to remain here if I can’t see stuff from other instances?

Honestly, with comments in this thread being removed by mods and the delays and prevarifications over this defederation, I’m starting to think LW is run by children.

Do better.

Seems like petty bullshit. An admin has access to the block button. They could have blocked the user, or the instance. I’m okay with an instance ban for the user but defederation without any input from .world users because of personal grievance feels like a major over step.

Ban the user, sure, since calls to violence in a user name is a bit much. That being said, I think Kaplan should be removed from the admin team, and refederation should occur. Defederation like this and for these reasons is well above what’s expected.

Threats of defed against db0 are fucking gross. Clearly, someone is upset their bad behavior keeps getting called out in the ye tripping bastard sub. Do better.

Ya, Kaplan needs to be removed from his admin/mod duties ASAP. He sees lemmy.world has his personal and private property and thinks he can do whatever he wishes. That is not what a community is about.

He is the typical reddit mod that we all hate. That is one of the reasons why we are on lemmy rather than on reddit. And yet, we are letting it happen here again? Fuck no. We need to be on the look out and stop such things as soon as possible, before they become too big to deal with.

After getting a better look at the background, this seems like a misstep.

Agreed that Luminous was not exhibiting behavior that seemed becoming of an admin (borrowing the terms of the db0 folks, they appear to be a bit of a “shit stirrer”) but it doesn’t look like there was any direct call to violence towards Kaplan, as this whole debacle seems to imply.

Luminous is no longer an admin, so I don’t see why the defederation of anarchist.nexus needs to continue (given that its initial justification is already questionable). The main takeaway is that the admin team of Lemmy.world (or maybe just Kaplan, I don’t know who all the admins are) seem to be taking criticism of Zionism personally…which to me sounds easily solved by simply not being Zionists.

So, if the LW team are not Zionists, I don’t see why they shouldn’t just come out and say so, but then I guess I don’t see any other reason why someone would take a “death to Zionists” tagline personally.

Should have stayed defederated. Anarchist.nexus is a shitshow, just like lemmy.ml and dbzer0

Hey there, Kaplan.

So, this is quite clearly now just a witch hunt by you.

For anyone else who is curious, this is what happened.

A user by the name of Luminous was an admin on Anarchist.nexus. They banned MrKaplan from a community for posting zionist apologia. Luminous also had ‘Kill all Zionists’ as their display name. This, evidently to MrKaplans arrogance, translates into ‘he is throwing death threats against me personally’.

Despite that user stepping down as an admin, you unilaterally defederated from Anarchist.nexus days ago. You did not notify the instance or community. You did not contact any other admins of Anarchist.nexus. You just, unilaterally, decided to take matters into your own hands and manually defederate an entire instance based off of the actions of a single user that you did not contact anyone over.

@Ruud@lemmy.world, this is what you’re backing. You went out of your way to make an instance that wasn’t going to be reddit and you went ahead and re-created Spez, an admin who personally takes out their own feelings on anyone that they don’t like and is trying to control the narrative of the entirety of the fediverse.

Friendly reminder to everyone. Check back a couple of months ago on this community and look at the post about JordanLund. A moderator who was openly lying to the admins in public but the admins took weeks to decide to do literally nothing. But a single user on another instance meant that MrKaplan was able to defederate it all.

This is why I left lemmy.world. Kaplan and Spez are interchangable.

We need to take our comms and push them to reddthat, disroot and lazysocial.

What absolute fucking pussies.

You should be ashamed to be here, in our community, making false accusations to deliberately try to “get one back” against a text block on the internet.

I hereby vote that we release wolves into the Admin habitat for the lemmy.world instance. Natural selection should correct the lack of spine found in said admins.

We’re currently discussing how we will proceed with this situation and whether it will affect lemmy.dbzer0.com, which is mostly run by the same admin team, notably excluding the person who used to be on the anarchist.nexus admin team.

If .world doesn’t defederate, dbzero never will, because they’re only federated to troll…

This is how their admins are still acting:

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/67441443/25634912

It’s not just this, their main admin bans people just for down voting any of their AI slop they spread over like 20 identical communities.

Anytime there’s any kind of division, “divide by zero” will pick the position that will piss off the most people, and just wait for new users to stumble onto their instance.

They’re a negative to the fediverse, along with a couple other instances with very low user numbers but a high degree of drama.

Honestly a great move from the .world admins to prevent themselves from becoming too big, and I applaud their effort to piss everoney off and make them leave for more community oriented instances lmao

I don’t think defederation is ever justified outside of technical reasons, like spam or other disruptive activities.

I don’t think killing civilians is cool. (Each side feel free to project your biases onto that comment)

I think that there is a large population of people who share the toxic view that social media is a battleground and views people who disagree as enemies to be attacked. These people are often disruptive, toxic assholes. The way to deal with them is to ban them when they pop up.

I think it is extra stupid to stereotype people based on the instance that they signed up for instead of their stated opinions.

User: Kill Zionists

Admin:

Wait, so this gets instant action but Jordanlund history of world tos breaking and abusing moderation takes a month to get jack shit?