It’s a movie starring his nephew in the lead role, approved by his estate, and by all accounts it just feels like an attempt to whitewash him. This is a man who was accused of being a serial child molester, settled with a family out of court for $25 million just to avoid a trial (Chandler), and openly admitted he slept in the same bed as kids while he was an adult (Bashir interview), among other things. I don’t really see what there is to debate.
Anything pointing this out gets backlash on movie-related subreddits, which I find wild. It makes me wonder, if Epstein could sing and dance, would he have gotten a biopic too? Would people be defending him like this?
I think that you’re living you life in an incredibly boring consumptive way if you even have an opinion or care about this movie.
You don’t have to watch every movie. Thousands of terrible movies come out every year, just don’t watch them. If someone makes a bad movie. How would that personally affect me? Unless I was strapped down and forced to watch it. Who cares.
You making this thread and getting people talking about the movie is you low key doing marketing for the movie, whether you like it or not any attention is attention.
So so congrats on going out of your way to market this movie that you don’t have to watch or think about.
I think its right amount of woke.
I personally dont like these kind of things.
I havent and dont intend to watch this or pieces like Oppenheimer or Monster series. I can watch legit documentaries of Dahlmer or unabomber, but i find it to be poor taste to make entertainment from things like that.
You’re not too woke. You’re to green and innocent though. Movies glorifying pedophiles shouldn’t surprise you. Trumps wife just got her own movie ffs.
The people with power like this stuff and want us to like it too.
you haven’t seen it cuz it isn’t out yet and you think it’s disgusting? I don’t understand man
Yes, they think it’s disgusting that it’s even made, it’s not that hard to understand
The line between good and evil cuts through the heart of us all.
Get off your high horse.
Hate it because its Hollywood trash, not because its about michael Jackson.
I mean Thomas Jefferson is on the 5 dollar bill. Do you abstain from $5bills because he sold his black children into slavery?
Our dearest friend… That’s Abraham Lincoln on the 5$ bill. George Washington (avid slave owner who used legal loopholes holes to avoid his slaves from becoming free in northern states) is on 1$, and Thomas Jefferson (guy previously mentioned) is on the 2$ bill.
Note just because they got plastered and are constantly out here on a high pedestal does not mean it’s ok to make more pedestals for more horrible people.
You think not raping children is being on a high horse…?
Abe Lincoln’s not on the $5 bill anymore?
I couldn’t care less about it myself. More trash for the dumpster fire of American culture.
He sure was innocent…
You never held a baby have you
Almost nobody in the existence of our race has held their or someone else’s baby out over a three story balcony, no
I have, not over a balcony with its face covered though.
In my opinion, MJ probably was an pedophile in the truest sense of the word. He enjoyed cuddling and simply being close to them, and actually caring about them, which also means he would never actually hurt them. It reminds me of furry cuddle piles. If he would have been born later, he would have an fursona for sure.
You sound unvaccinated
Nah, kid was beat by his dad, lost his childhood and just wanted friends. He wasn’t an adult psychologically and enjoyed being around kids his “age”. He wasn’t all there, but id bet money he was far from a pedophile. I don’t think he had it in him at all, just wanted friends.
The thought of white washing MJ is kind of hilarious
He did it to himself 😂
I thought everything again MJ was pretty much determined to be completely fabricated by a physiologist convincing kids that they “remembered” things that never really happened?
That’s…
OK… Let’s practice some Occam’s Razor here. What do you think is the most likely answer?
- MJ was inappropriate with children.
- A psychologist devised an elaborate plot where he managed to somehow make multiple children remember something that didn’t happen.
I mean… It happened with the Satanic panic. This is exactly the plot of it
…because nothing even remotely complex has ever happened before?
We haven’t seen any rich or powerful people turn to paedophilia to manage their internal pain no no that is so rare
I personally think he didn’t do anything. I think he was weird as hell and people took advantage of it. People who are incredibly talented tend to be really different personalities. Look at great composers and painters.
People always point out things that the kids claimed but no one seems to talk about the kids that were forced by their parents to make up shit to sue him for millions. I don’t care, i’m not here to defend the dead guy, but people just want to believe he’s a pedo monster, but normal ass people wanting to get rich quick is not an option? These people were responsible for their kids and were like: yeah, you can have a sleepover with the weirdo. Macaulay Culkin seems like a pretty honeat guy, who speaks out over a lot of shit happened to him and the industry in general, and he said: nah, just a weird dude who liked to have children around.
Dude was so rich in his prime, he had no idea what money even was. Of course he would rather spend 25million dollars to make a lawsuit go away than being questioned over and over again, while people already made up their mind.
Maybe focus on the pedophile in the Whitehouse that the maybe pedophile that is dead.
To be clear, I am, and have always been a punk rocker/metal head, do I couldn’t give a rats ass about the king of pop.
But he always struck me as very much on the spectrum, of course not when I was growing up, since it wasn’t a thing back then, but I find it very unlikely he did the things he was accused of.
I could be wrong, but it felt like a cash grab by the parents.
I’ve also seen many people’s personal accounts indicating he was protecting them. I believe m. culcan was one of them
I’ve never been a fan of Michael Jackson and have no intentions of seeing the movie but I do know a die-hard Michael Jackson fan who went to see the movie and he said the movie was pretty awful.
Yes.
I did wonder if it was going to talk about his abusive father or the molesting thing. But not enough for me to watch it and find out.
Personally I find all celebrity biopics disgusting.
I mean, it would be different if these things tended to actually be honest deeply researched analyses done by hard-nosed experts (which would probably mean they would be spectacularly boring as movies and better as articles or books) and if celebrity status was highly correlated to the greatness of one’s achievements for society rather than to being well known because of practicing a very public profession (so, featuring more of, for example, Great Scientists and fewer Star Musicians and Movie Stars), but in the current society, celebrity biopics are fantasy spectacles about people whose fame is due to nothing else than being a competent professional in showbiz.
That in itself doesn’t make the biopics “disgusting” but the recent abundance of them does add up to too much to of an overly sweet low-nutrition thing the point of being stomach turning, IMHO.
Personally I find all celebrity biopics disgusting.
Hey, Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story is a classic and a masterpiece, I’ll have you know.
Wrong kid died!
i like biopics that don’t pretend to be anything more than entertainment, like Weird Al and Nick Cages biopic movies
