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I feel like a test of strength is in order
Says a guy who’s never worked a job in his life.
When you can expense a 2+ hour lunch with your friends as “working”, he’s right.And my wife wondered why I busted my ass to get a union IT job at a college.
No no. He had to assign some… Wait, he told his admin assistant to assign someone to write denial letters.
Honestly I agree that if people were not alienated from their labor they would probably want to work more.
Absolutely fucking not.
I think it really depends, if I were to work at a workers co op where I’m a part owner of the business I really probably wouldn’t mind working more. All these CEOs get insane compensation for their work, why do you think they don’t mind working more? Obviously I wouldn’t want to have to spend 7 days a week in a steel factory a coal mine or a slaughterhouse etc.
They don’t “work more;” they play more and call it work.
I mean who knows maybe he does spend more time on his work, whether his work is productive for society is another matter. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with work, there is something wrong with being exploited.
Yeah, I’m sure those workers in the slaughterhouses and coal mines will be happy to work there once they’re un-alienated.
Yeah, nobody wants to do those jobs, but we all rely on people doing them, the obvious answer would be to automate the jobs people don’t want to do. Instead you see modern capitalists automating away the jobs people do want to do, like white collar work.
People don’t want white collar jobs because the work is fulfilling. They want them because the jobs aren’t physically demanding and they pay well.
So socialism isn’t obtainable with current technology?
Did I say that? I’d say socialism isn’t attainable without some kind of civil war. Also there are lots of different ways a society can be built and organised and how it interacts with technology.
And who’s going to clean the toilets?
That’s the whole point really, the people who start the company will gladly work 6 days a week and stay up late at night if they have to, and travel through different time zones. Which is fine if they enjoy it, but in an ordinary job for minimum wage I’m not going to act with that amount of loyalty to the company lmao. I’ll just resign if they pay me minimum and want me to attend meetings and pretend I’m some kind of executive. When I worked with timber they wanted me to meet suppliers to gain product knowledge but it never proved useful in my 5 months. It just took me away from customers or delayed my lunch break even further.
Hey now, medical leeches provide important services to the community and are often essential for reattaching limbs.
I’d say he’s a lot more like a mosquito. Or a horsefly.
What about tapeworm? I feel like that’s more fitting
Sorry to sully the name of the leech.
Then sell all your yachts and work in a mine, coward.
Ok boomer.
Player 2, please connect your controller. We need Luigi to beat this.
He’s right, it should be way unbalanced to the life side.
Anyway, kill all billionaires
Good! If he thinks it’s weak, let’s send him to the mines for the 996 treatment. Oh, and cut him off from society while we’re at it. I call it “work retreat”.
I want to see him work two twelve hours days in a row, operating a jackhammer.
Yeah, I’m married and would like to stay that way so I’m going home after 8 hours
Fewer hours at home = fewer quarrels with the kids More hours at work = more time earning money = less time wasting money
A CEO is someone with a cakewalk job, who, if they can be said to do any actual “work” at all, certainly doesn’t work full time doing it in the same sense that their employees do (how else would you have someone who is CEO of multiple companies?). They have absurd incomes that frees them from absolutely any financial concerns. They travel the world like it is nothing. They have time to spend talking to interviewers and on panels like this douche about how we don’t work enough.
Any CEO tries to tell me that they are in the position they are because they “wake up and start work at 5 am, don’t sleep until 1am, never clocked out, blah blah blah” and that’s why they deserve to be paid more per year than I’ll make in my lifetime will be lucky to not limp away from that conversation.
