I can’t. I just can’t.

  • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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    But you don’t have some kind of inalienable right to a public highway free of state surveillance. That’s never existed.

    I’d make the argument that that would violate anything about searches seizures.

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        And even your backwards ass legal system has said that the inside of your car is not public. You see there used to be this us thing called the 4th amendment, its all gone to piss now but that was the legal document that used to be referaced.

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          You see there used to be this us thing called the 4th amendment

          Point to the moment in history during which the 4th amendment existed the way the lay American thinks is does

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            Why would I do that? Unless you completely miss understand what my comment was infuring it would make no sense for me to do that.

            Nothing in any of the small comment I made has anything to do with the perceived effectiveness of the 4th amendment, but on the actual precedent the united states of shitheal courts at all levels have set. You stating that someones vehicle is public is quite literaly 180 degrees from the legal opinion. They have stated (to much controversy) that individuals have less expectations of privacy in their own vehicle, but have even upheld the right to people renting cars.

            Now will this change? Sure you all live in a joke version of a nation now. But you also seem to want to be oppressed so much you are actively fighting for it for some reason, so I guess it will happen faster.

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              Why would I do that?

              Presumably because you have a hagiographic understanding of your nation’s police and courts, and you really do believe civil rights are delivered from a benevolent judicial priesthood.

              You stating that someones vehicle is public is quite literaly 180 degrees from the legal opinion.

              Whose legal opinion?

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                Presumably because you have a hagiographic understanding of your nation’s police and courts, and you really do believe civil rights are delivered from a benevolent judicial priesthood.

                Not an american, not my circus.I can tell you are however, as only americans assume everyone is an american.

                Whose legal opinion?

                The supreme court of the us, over and over again have ruled that a persons possessions (including vehicles) have protections from warrantless search. Why the fuck did you think the whole “I smell cannabis” line was used so often if they did not need reasonable cause?

                Now does this stop the police doing whatever they want? No not at all, but you leaning into your own oppression by thinking that anything “delivered from a benevolent judicial priesthood” is meaningless is not as cool and edgy as you think it is.