There seem to be some people on Lemmy who genuinely believe that they are an animal. They say they are an “unperson” or discuss conversing with “animals” who “happen to be born in human bodies”. They see their struggle as on par with the struggle for trans people, and their right to be recognized as animals as a part of a broader societal struggle for queer acceptance.

Well, this is fucking stupid.

First of all, comparing “I’m a puppy uWu” to gender dysphoria trivializes what trans people go through. Furries are not struggling like trans people. They are simply mocking trans people (whether that mockery is intentional or not is besides the point).

Second of all, you’re not a fucking animal bro ffs. Being an animal isn’t a state of mind. It isn’t a vibe. It isn’t a social construct. It isn’t something you’re assigned at birth. It’s about DNA. You have 50% of DNA from a human mom, and 50% of your DNA from a human dad, so you have 100% human DNA (granted maybe you have like 0.1% Neanderthal DNA but whatever). So you’re a human. This shouldn’t be a hard concept to grasp.

If you can speak a human language, and have the mental wherewithal required to use the internet, then you have a HUMAN MIND. And if you “just so happen to be born in a human body” then you have a HUMAN BODY. HUMAN MIND + HUMAN BODY = HUMAN. IT’S ALL HUMAN. YOU ARE HUMAN. Just because you have a bestiality fetish does not make you a fucking bobcat ffs

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      From Harvard Medical School:

      Delusional disorder is characterized as having one or more false beliefs based on an incorrect interpretation of reality lasting at least one month.

      If someone sincerely believes that they are a fish, and this belief persists, is this not (1) a false belief based on an incorrect interpretation of reality which (2) lasts more than one month?

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        If you actually believed they were suffering from a medical condition like “psychosis” or “delusion”, you should be treating them with compassion, not contempt. No reasonable person would insult someone for having a broken arm or using a crutch. No reasonable person would make fun of a kid for being in a wheelchair.

        Clearly, you do not actually believe the words you say. You know they are not actually delusional. You know they aren’t actually psychotic. You understand that they are LARPing. You know they are enjoying their hobby, and causing you no harm in the process. Yet, you are using ableist language to denigrate them.

        Your bigotry now extends to mental health as well as those simply pursuing happiness.

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          You went to great pains to correct me earlier that you were talking about “otherkin” or “therians” not furries. But now we’re suddenly talking about furries again? Whatever word you want to use, I’m talking about the people who think they are literally animals

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            Ah, so you are capable of pretending to learn, when it suits your side of the argument. There might be hope for you yet.

            But, as the other reply to your previous comment said, not only do you believe those people are “psychotic”, you also exhibit such hatred for them because of their supposed mental health issues that it’s difficult to see your arguments in any other lens than ableist at best. Would a person going through an actual psychotic break elicit as much hate from you if it wasn’t about “identifying as animals”?

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              you also exhibit such hatred for them because of their supposed mental health issues that it’s difficult to see your arguments in any other lens than ableist at best.

              So it’s hatred to not affirm their delusions?

              And what about you? Should I be patient with you, too, as someone who is enabling these delusions and, by extension, potentially harming people?

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                What you should do is reread what you’ve been typing all over this thread. If you don’t think your post and replies are hateful, you might want to look into therapy.

                I don’t expect you to be patient with me or anyone else, since you haven’t shown any capability for that. But maybe you can engage your allegedly human brain to see why every other reply is calling you out on it.

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                  What you should do is reread what you’ve been typing all over this thread. If you don’t think your post and replies are hateful, you might want to look into therapy.

                  Wow you sure got me! Such a hero, looking out for the little guy by pretending that he’s literally a puppy! Reread your comments. You’ll find that what you’re saying is absolutely absurd. You think defending people’s delusions that they are literally an animal is some sort of social justice. Well, it’s not. It’s telling people what they want to hear, but that can be harmful, especially when someone is suffering from delusions. People like you make a mockery of the LGTBQ+ movement and give ideological ammunition to the right and discredit the transgender movement. You should be embarrassed for choosing such an utterly stupid hill to die on

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                    People like you make a mockery of the LGTBQ+ movement and give ideological ammunition to the right and discredit the transgender movement. You should be embarrassed for choosing such an utterly stupid hill to die on

                    Nice projection there. Transphobic, ableist, willfully ignorant and hateful. Seeing you go around the same few incoherently jumbled points has ceased to be fun, so I think I’m going to move on from this thread. I can only hope that one day you will also be able to move on. Or isolate from society to minimize the harm you’ve done.