Transphobic, ableist, willfully ignorant and hateful.

So this is your final resort. When you realize you can longer defend your position you resort to name calling

What you should do is reread what you’ve been typing all over this thread. If you don’t think your post and replies are hateful, you might want to look into therapy.

Wow you sure got me! Such a hero, looking out for the little guy by pretending that he’s literally a puppy! Reread your comments. You’ll find that what you’re saying is absolutely absurd. You think defending people’s delusions that they are literally an animal is some sort of social justice. Well, it’s not. It’s telling people what they want to hear, but that can be harmful, especially when someone is suffering from delusions. People like you make a mockery of the LGTBQ+ movement and give ideological ammunition to the right and discredit the transgender movement. You should be embarrassed for choosing such an utterly stupid hill to die on

Why do people find it so hard to believe that someone could take issue with trans-speciesism? Have you guys ever talked to someone irl before? Judging by the downvotes this is an unpopular opinion here, but 99.99% of the human population would agree with me about this

It’s weird. If people were just being weird by themselves, that would barely worth any comment. But when people co-opt the language of social justice to justify their weirdness, and accuse you of being a bad person for not going along with it, then things have gone too far

you also exhibit such hatred for them because of their supposed mental health issues that it’s difficult to see your arguments in any other lens than ableist at best.

So it’s hatred to not affirm their delusions?

And what about you? Should I be patient with you, too, as someone who is enabling these delusions and, by extension, potentially harming people?

Also, I hope you’ll reconsider your views on furries!

The person I was conversing said their belief they were an animal was a furry thing, so that’s the word I used in this post. Since then have been a number of comments here explaining the technical terms used to describe the different subtypes of furries. If someone just likes art of anthropomorphic animals then I don’t take issue with that

You went to great pains to correct me earlier that you were talking about “otherkin” or “therians” not furries. But now we’re suddenly talking about furries again? Whatever word you want to use, I’m talking about the people who think they are literally animals

If someone is delusional, affirming that delusion is actively harmful. That is why ChatGPT leads to mental breakdowns. What do you want me to do? Say “you’re absolutely right, you actually are a zebra fish”? Because I won’t. Saying stuff like that is actively harmful. And I won’t tolerate being called a bigot because I refuse to go along with an adult’s game of make believe

Where have you even encountered therians on Lemmy?

In this very comment section, for example

From Harvard Medical School:

Delusional disorder is characterized as having one or more false beliefs based on an incorrect interpretation of reality lasting at least one month.

If someone sincerely believes that they are a fish, and this belief persists, is this not (1) a false belief based on an incorrect interpretation of reality which (2) lasts more than one month?

You realize that enabling people’s psychosis is actually really dangerous right? This is why ChatGPT can lead to mental breakdowns

Over time interacting with her, I eventually learned that delusions come from something real, some genuine fear or memory or whatever. Directly telling her that things she was experiencing weren’t real got me nowhere. The best approach for me was to help her talk it out - what was she experiencing, how was she feeling, what situation led up to her feeling that way. Just talking, listening, and believing her - I know it sounds crazy, but just telling a delusional person that you understand and that you believe that their experiences were real to them - helps so much.

This is interesting, thanks for sharing (I posted this response earlier but it didn’t federate for some reason so I’m trying again)

ignorant and hateful.

So not enabling people’s psychotic delusions is ignorant and hateful now? Got it.

This may help you

So I think it’s dumb for someone to think that they are literally a dog. And in your mind this is comparable to racism and homophobia? Get a life

Clearly you have more than enough free time to do a bit of research,

Once again, you are taking my words hyper-literally. When I say “I don’t have time to do research” I do not mean that I literally cannot set the time aside to research furries. It means that I would prefer to stab my eyes out with a fork than have to spend time reading psychotic dribble written by someone who thinks they are literally a rhinoceros (and no, I don’t mean that I would literally prefer to stab my eyes out)

Fair enough

I have had rather frustrating conversations with two different people, on two separate occasions, trying to explain to them that they are not, in fact, an animal. To me this is a rather absurd situation to be in. So that frustration probably comes through in my post.

Once again, you are getting on my case because you take everything I’m saying hyper-literally. Do you have autism or are you just that literal minded?

It can be fun and diverse at the same time.

Your idea of “fun and diverse” is enabling people with psychotic delusions by telling them that, yes, they actually are a zebra after all, when what you should be doing is encouraging them to see a psychiatrist