I’m in recovery and ever commercial is “the bold refreshing taste of uncle berry lemon twist vodka. Having a bad day? Drink this. You know you want to. Drink it Michael! please drink responably
Every ad portrays drinking as a party, and your in a pool throwing a beach ball with your friends, and your ex Chrissy finally admits she was wrong. It’s an unrealistically positive. If you drink Tito’s your father in law will finally grow close to you. It’s not Christmas without even Williams egg nog!
There is no safe amount of alcohol to drink. It is like cigarettes, entirely bad for you.
I’m not saying don’t sell it but why is every add for booze being blasted every. Especially to me because the algorithm knows I’m an alcoholic.
How is that legal?
Please drink responsibly? You’re aiming your ads at alcoholics primarily.
It’s like advertising morphine on skid row. You know what you’re doing.
Edit: for the people saying I’m America centric. I have a Texas education.what the hell is the US? Nothing is beyond our boarders. We are the only land mass. Ill add a picture in the comments.
For the people who happily explained what it’s like in thier country. Makes me feel less crazy for pointing out the problem!
Because we live in a society that hates women as much as it hates cancer
who tf is we?
It’s the Royal we
To be fair, as an alcoholic, alcohol ads had zero effect on my purchases.
Before I quit, the only thing that influenced my buying was the calculator app on my phone. For beer it was Millilitres per can times cans per block divided by ABV, divided by price. Higher number good… For scotch and port it was easier.
divided by abv
Well it’s probably a good thing you quit!
all advertisement is bad. best to avoid all of it. use the fediverse, don’t use commercial internet platforms.
How exactly are new companies supposed to find clients if all advertising is bad?
there should obviously be indexes which tell you what stuff exists. stuff like amazon where you search for “desk” and it shows you the 10 desk providers that can be delivered to your location.
Advertising is weaponized pollution. All of it. In any shape or form. It is littering and spreading garbage for profit.
Bill Hicks had an excellent suggestion for those in that industry.
We don’t, alcohol adverts are just as illegal as tobacco. Of course; that might not be the case everywhere on the planet :P
OP is talking about the US
US allows all drugs to be advertised. So your doctor if Martinis are right for you.
That’s not true
Aka “the default place”.
Weird, I see no mention of this “US”, how are we supposed to know?
That big ol brain of yours
I appreciate you being friendly with it. I just wasn’t thinking about savages.
Z”that’s a joke by the way.
Our education is American centric. “We arrived to this empty land and these hundreds of tribes had a stick up for here butt so we generously held lad on thier behalf in a trust they have no control over. There were treaties.‘don’t look them up but it wasntotallynlegit broh
Theres actually a joke here “we learn geography based on what war we’re in”
If I moved to your country you probably list me as mentally disabled “the usSr can’t hurt you it been gone-
“WE NEED THIRTY NUCLEAR LAND MINES!”
I appreciate you taking it easy on me
That’s a pretty distasteful and unfunny joke, by the way.
Comedy is how I cope with things. That and drinking. They don’t always combine well.
All jokes are dark. There is no joke that doesn’t Involve pain. Jokes are the way we address Hard realities in a safe way.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the “joke” being bad, and that had no humour in it at all. You were just being a dick. Granted, there’s a fine line between “dark” humour and being a dick, but you most certainly crossed it.
That’s where you are completely wrong
“Joke” doesn’t need to be in quotes. It’s not an opinion or grey area. If something is told as a joke it is a joke.
Your opinion of the joke doesn’t stop it from being a joke. Buy a dictionary .
“No humor at all “ it was sarcastic ghoulish humor by definition. It’s a specific classification
Dark humor doesn’t need to be in quotes all humor is dark humor. That’s what humor is.
You clearly have opinions if I want to hear them I’ll ask for them. Until then just be about your way.
You’re very confused buddy. If you post crappy “jokes” on the internet, be prepared to receive feedback on them. Hopefully next time you’ll actually have something funny to say. Otherwise, “just be about your way”.
Again jokes doesn’t need to be in quotes. Buy a dictionary. Jokes don’t have to personally funny to you to be a joke by definition. A crappy joke is still a joke.
So Id your plan is for me not to say anything you personally don’t like… my answers no.
Feel free to repeat you don’t like it until you are blue in the face, just buy a dictionary so you know what words mean.
There is also a block function . no one Is holding you here. You are choosing to not like my joke and I’m choosing to not care About your opinion. I’m not ashamed of my joke at all. I apologize if you felt offended by that’s the end of my giving a fuck about this matter.
Unfortunately for you I can write a novel Faster than you could name chapter so I have no problem responding to you forever. But you should probably know you won’t ever win.
All jokes are dark. Laughing and crying serve the same function. Knock knock?
Who’s there?
To To who?
It’s to whom actually.
Onoxk Not Jokes Are Based on the pain of appearing foolish im public.
For ten years no one’s ever shown me A joke that isn’t pain.
Closest anyone ever got was “puns Don’t involve pain” how do we as a society react to puns? With anger like Just hearing it hurt us.
Every joke ever told is about pain. places “prove me wrong” In front of my tent
If something was intend as a joke it meets the qualifications for “a joke”. If one person laughs it’s not categorized as unfunny. Someone found it funny.
It’s unfunny to you. That’s it. You are too self absorbed to see that your don’t control what is and isn’t comedy based on your feelings. Buy a dictionary.
Big Booze
You know when you see an advertisement for a casino, and they have a picture of a guy winning money? That’s false advertising, because that happens the least. That’s like if you’re advertising a hamburger, they could show a guy choking. “This is what happened once.”
Mitch Hedberg
bribes
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I think about this with grocery stores. All you want is some cereal and there’s a giant aisle of temptation people have to walk through
Considering the liquor is off to the side, no, you don’t need to walk through it to get to the cereal. Let’s not imply that more regulation is needed
The law is different in different parts of the world. In some parts of the world, alcohol can only be purchased in specialty stores. In other parts, it can be bought effectively anywhere.
In line with OP’s question, CVS made a big deal about banning the sale of tobacco in all its pharmacies a decade ago, saying it could not sell tobacco products and be a health care provider at the same time. However, in some states, a CVS will have rows of alcohol for sale because it is legal to sell there.
Depends on the store
Absolutely is when you’re shopping in Germany.
Well, there are places where it is illegal. EU for example.
But of course they get around that by advertising their “0.0%” beers etc.
There is no EU law forbidding alcohol advertisements. Most EU countries have a mix of local laws and self regulation, and only a few of those fully forbid it.
That loophole is closed in Norway at least.
Can’t even advertise for a Heineken T-shirt if you wanted to
Did you guys get rid of that “sändarlandsprincipen” or whatever it is? For beer and such, they usually still do the 0,0% shit, but there’s tons of commercials for wine and liquor, which don’t exactly sell alcohol-free versions…
And if it’s not alcohol commercials in Sweden, it’s commercials for online casinos, which is also supposed to be illegal to advertise.
Lobbying. Big Liquor is in everyone’s pocket.
Bit of a shot in the dark, but seems like cigarette companies have lied in front of congress / courts saying cigarettes are healthy / not bad for you and have been caught red handed in their lies.
Big alcohol hasn’t ever done anything that egregious. Everyone knows its not exactly healthy to drink, and Big Alcohol doesn’t seem to have ever argued that. I know there’s the occasional “a glass of red wine is good for your heart” stuff, but they’re also not making any attempt to deny a gallon of wine per day will probably cause cirrhosis, ya know?
Alcohol has also just been more prevalent in human cultures dating back to prehistory. Some of the earliest evidence we have of permanent human settlements were breweries, theorized to have been built by people who still lived semi-nomadic hunter-gatherer lifestyles. That would mean that humans first started making permanent settlements and doing large-scale agriculture only to produce alcohol, and still mainly relied on hunting and gathering for their caloric needs. Other drugs / intoxicants have been used by humans for at least as long, but none have been so central to the development of civilization and culture than alcohol.
Yeah, I could never fly an economy flight without a drink or three to lighten the spirits.
… drink or three…
… lighten the spirits.
I see what you did there.
Just adding. The liquor industry has been pushing the ‘drink responsibly’ line for decades. Back in the day they tried to get an AA member to sign on as a spokesperson but AA asked the member not to do it and they agreed.
Just FYI, the 1 glass a day study didn’t exclude ex alcoholics, so they polluted the zero-glass-a-day group with bad health making the 1-glass-a-day look healthier in comparison.
The study has been redone and it shows that the less alcohol you consume the better it is, no exceptions.
Yeah, in terms of individual health, I have no doubt that avoiding alcohol all together the best bet.
Personally, I subscribe to a flavor of “social lubricant” take on alcohol. That is, being a human and managing all the required social interactions and minor slights, stressors, stigmas, etc is a lot. And alcohol works to turn off some of the parts of the brain most active in social situations. That is to say that alcohol (and/or other mood altering drugs) are bad for the individual, but good for society.
Do need to caveat that take with: there’s a left and a right to what’s acceptable levels of intoxication. I don’t think the world would be better with everyone getting outright shit faced every night, and even a glass every night might be excessive; its easy to fall prey to addiction and that’s undesirable. But also, I don’t think we’d be better off without alcohol all together. I think a couple glasses per week - and not drinking those glasses alone - makes for a healthy enough middle ground.
There’s a good reason we’ve had alcohol for almost as long as we’ve had civilization, and I think you hit on some key points of it here. It’s a social lubricant, many important meetings and decisions of history might not have happened without a little drink to loosen some tongues.
That’s not to say that it’s good for you, but alcohol has been present alongside human evolution in sort of the same way that dogs have. We go waaayyyyyy way back together.
alcohol … bad for the individual, but good for society
Alcohol is ranked as society’s most harmful drug, because no, for way too many people it’s not just a few drinks per week in a healthy social setting. It’s also one of the few drugs where you can literally die during withdrawal.
Yup, and I think that’s a symptom of how isolating modern society is (as opposed to the disease society suffers from).
I def do not advocate for drinking alone in any quantity, but I would also never advocate to remove alcohol from society. It feels reasonable to conclude that since every society that’s ever had success at some level has had some form of mind altering substance (usually alcohol) that was consumed recreationally and regularly.
You can’t remove it, its too easy to make. It doesnt need to be advertised though.
Well I mean, why stop at just alcohol ads? I say we ban them all.
^^ Only kinda joking there. I do hate ads, esp those that interrupt whatever content I was involved in (TV, streaming, pop-up). Ones that just kinda set on the side are mostly okay (billboards, banner ads, those pamphlets at hotels, etc).
There is no safe amount of alcohol to drink. It is like cigarettes, entirely bad for you.
Not a great analogy. You’ve just decided the cons of drinking outweigh the pros.
There is no safe amount of alcohol.
For example: you just decided the cons of hitting your head with a rock outweighs the pros.
There is no safe amount of hitting yourself in the face with a rock.
You could argue “what about the red wine studies!” Those benefits are debatable at best with a single glass of red wine.
Either way it’s irrelevant because if I meant wine I would’ve said wine.
More importantly I don’t see a lot of wine commercial. The current level of wine advertising is fine with me.
The only thing you’re telling me is you’re unaware of the benefits. Making absurd, obviously stupid comparisons won’t convince anyone.
Alcohol can help relax muscles, ease headaches and help you overcome performance anxiety.
A typical beer can pacify and numb mouth sores without aggravating them.
If you’re planning to reply with another obviously moronic comparison, choose better instead.
Sorry I was in rehab.
Clearly you are unaware of the pros of hitting yourself in the face with a rock. It helps you sleep, helps with high blood pressure…
The fact of the matter is there is no healthy use of alcohol. They make pills that are prescribed by doctor for what you are describing. No doctor is going to prescribe drinking alcohol because it is only negative.
I’m sorry you are struggling with accepting alcohol as a bad habit but that doesn’t make me stupid. It just means you are unwilling to face it.
A few reasons.
First, the alcohol industry has been a lot more sensitive to being perceived as selling to kids than the tobacco industry was. Because of it, there was never the push to ban advertising and conduct a mass media effort to control teen drinking as there was teen smoking.
Second, people still remember prohibition in the USA and how it was a failure. So, you’ve got a lot of people worried about a slippery slope in comparison to tobacco.
Third, the alcohol industry is far better at lobbying around specific items that would actually prevent consumption. For instance, alcoholic beverages don’t need to show nutritional information. It will bend in a way that keeps access open.
