I’m seeing a bunch of posts insinuating that this most recent assassination attempt was fake. Why do people think this? I’m out of the loop.
Because it looked staged, dude never did one before, made a big stink about going, then suddenly a half naked man is there? Nah, fake as fuck. All of the attempts were fake so far.
Thanks.
The US Fox News channel cut off one of its own reporters just as she seemed about to give away what people are saying is foreknowledge among Donald Trump’s inner circle about the ‘assassination attempt’ at this year’s White House Correspondents Dinner.
I can’t seem to find the source for this. Maybe it’s there and I’m just missing it. Could you point me in the right direction?
Sorry idk how to do a piped link. There’s lots of stories about it if you look up her name, Aishah Hasnie.
Thanks
I don’t know all the details, but something that struck me as odd was the fact that this was the first WHC dinner that Trump was going to, famously being too cowardly to go to the others for fear of being mocked. Why go to this one, when his approval rating is in the toilet?
This is the second WHC dinner during his second term. Last year they purposefully didn’t invite any entertainer and made no jokes about the administration to appease Trump. They showed they are ready to bow down and sacrifice freedom of speech so Trump showed up this year to express his approval.
he apparently hasnt gone to one once since 2011, when OBAMA roasted him.
I found it odd that immediately after, “I NEED A BALLROOM!”
And all the sycophants in unison, weirdly right after: HE NEEDS HIS BALLROOM!
Well it was also the first one where Grindr promoted it.
You’re thinking about it backwards. It’s the first one the assassin tried to rush into because Trump was going to be there.
He’s asking why Trump decided to go
Because there wasn’t going to be a roast. Mentalist and magician Oz Pearlman was going to host, instead.
And because, by staging a shooter, he is going to get public funding for his ballsack I mean ballroom.
Seems like a ballthimble would do.
It’s the kind of thing he would do. Putin does it all of the time, and you know how Trump feels about him. One time Putin staged a takeover of a theater, and then gassed the theater. With hundreds of innocent members of the public inside. They got dragged across the ground and stacked up in public busses to be taken to the hospital. Over 100 died. They refused to publish the actual total. For a press op.
gassed the theater. With hundreds of innocent members of the public inside
That’s terrible! And just double-checking with a bit of searching, yeah, this was a real incident. Whether it was “staged” is unclear (not enough evidence to support or deny it due to the lack of an investigation). But the Russian authorities did indeed release a noxious gas into the theatre without any sort of evacuation or coordination with health services, yet the official report by the Kremlin hails it as a success even though over a hundred people died?! I feel like, staged or not, that is something that should be criticised.
For a bit of context, Russia was invading Chechnya, which declared independence after the dissolution of the USSR, and a Chechen militant group took over a theatre and held everyone in it hostage (how they did that, I’m not sure. Some of the sources blame it on negligence of Russian intelligence, or suggest that authorities in the area were bribed). There was a siege of the theatre, and by the second day, people started to get shot. Afterwords, the Russian special forces gassed the theatre before entering it in an assault, and most of the hostages, as well as the Chechen militants, were killed. Additionally, authorities in Russia did not say what the gas was, meaning the people administering first aid had to guess, causing more death and permanent injuries than was necessary.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Moscow-theater-hostage-crisis (Britannica)
https://academic.oup.com/milmed/article/189/9-10/228/7454807 (journal article)
There’s actually no proof the Moscow theatre hostage crisis was staged either. You’re supporting a conspiracy theory by pointing to an another conspiracy that you just made up. Y’all have completely given up on critical thinking.
Because we’ve been trained by the republicans to prepare for a distraction when the current news is bad.
All of the republican news is really bad right now. They’ve flip-flopped on wars with various countries and the Epstein files a few times already. Even thrown out some UFO stuff. Nothing is working though because gas prices are high and there’s no easy and clean way out of the quagmire the GOP is currently in.
It saddens me so much to know that the president can rape children, and get away with it. On top of that, the only reason people aren’t distracted from it is the fact that gas prices are still high. If gas were cheap, there is a good chance 48% of Americans would be distracted.
plus the tariffs that the MSM stopped reporting is hurting businesses alot.
The manifesto specifically excluded Kash from the people he considered targets within the admin. At the very least, the supposed manifesto seems pretty sus based on that alone. But that wouldn’t imply the assassination attempt was fake (and even if it did, it could be interpreted as the FBI trying to take out trump and his administration rather than being done by Trump).
Isn’t it weird that it leaked that this correspondents dinner was going to be all about revenge and then this happens?
Honestly, I could see someone showing up and trying to assassinate Trump for being a pedophile, but I could also see this admin faking something like this. Though, I suspect this was faked we’ll see the leaked signal chats sometime soon.
Isn’t it weird that it leaked that this correspondents dinner was going to be all about revenge and then this happens?
are you talking about this? you do understand these remarks about shots fired are about his speech, not literal bullets, right?
whole trump’s presidency is a revenge for being humiliated by obama at correspondents dinner. it created his narcissistic political ptsd, and he will never get over it, so no, it is not weird at all that his first attendance of correspondent’s dinner at the office would be about that. it would be weird for normal mentally balanced adult person, but it is absolutely in character for trump.
If the shooting was faked, I have no opinion whether or not it is, those statements would be something called a “double entendre”.
Whether or not it was faked, she knew it would happen, could think of the double, or just overheard someone else making the joke… All up for debate.
No, I don’t think using a common figure of speech means it was staged. That’s silly.
I’m sure this news has wholly buried it but last week there was a report leaked that said this correspondents dinner was going to be all about getting revenge on the people who wronged Trump
The specific language used was weird, but I can’t say one way or the other yet.
“Donald Trump will launch a ‘revenge’ attack on the White House media when he confronts them in person at a Washington dinner on Saturday night,” an outletrevealed on Wednesday, April 22.
“He is expected to target publications that he has accused of writing negatively about his administration and his war with Iran, in particular, according to sources,” the Daily Beast reported.
And I also assume that even though the shooter was “in on it”, he’ll still go to prison for the rest of his life. No way trump bails him out…literally or figuratively.
happened 2 other times, with the same MO as the current one. once maybe it was believable but 3 times already, the Security serious inept or its staged.
Trump was seen as having an electoral boost after the Pennsylvania shooting.
Trump is in a deep hole with the electorate over the Epstein files, the economy, the Iran war, and support of the genocidal Israeli regime
Trump has used very blatant & underhanded tactics in the past, from the 2020 electoral certification Coup attempt, and the recent doordash PR stunt.
There will always be some amount of people who will not accept things at face value, but with Trump, experience has shown that waiting for evidence before believing what the administration is saying is a wise move.
TL;DR: a lot of sketchy crap happens in this administration and people think anything that might turn out well for Trump’s voter polls is manufactured
the PR stunts, yes the assasinations are this to. its to assure thier magat supporters that he still is in control of things, they are too dumb to realize hes always staging things.
The door dash thing was so tone deaf. Like, oh I hear your husband has cancer. Well, the good thing is, there is a job opening for you to help pay for it! You can doordash yourself to the bed next to him! He
Probs coz of the weird footage by some people. Guests sitting there still eating, others grabbing bottles, people smiling and chatting afterwards. People also are assuming that each attempt on his life was so bad that it felt staged (the way his ear looked after the first one, how incompetent the shooters were etc, theres lots of things flying around in comments). And then there’s the lack of sympathy for Trump so most people would want any reason to keep hating him.
the way his ear looked after the first one, how incompetent the shooters were etc, theres lots of things flying around in comments
AfaIk, the wound on his ear was caused by a member of Secret Service, not by a glancing shot (although he claimed).
There was no ear wound. His ear has no marks on it.
sauce?
Source: Look at him, and then look at anyone else who has ever had an ear injury.
Edit: According to Wikipedia, the final stance now is that the wound was caused by a stray bullet
Okay if we assume thst to be true then why did the kid get killed? Do you think 17 year olds agree to sacrifice themselves for Donald Trump, being reviled among his voterbase for the rest of history and seen as the latest Lee Harvey Oswald ?
They set people up all the time.
“Here’s some money. Buy me drugs bro. You’re under arrest!!”
“Oh, you’re pissed off at your wife? Well what are the odds? I know a hitman!”
“So you want to die huh? Why not go out as a hero? The president will be at this location and this door will be lightly guarded. Thanks for saving your country!”
sauce? there is zoomed-in footage of blood soon after the audible batch of shots.
Tomato
zoomed-in footage of blood
You don’t get ‘nicked’ in the ear by a bullet and then are just fine 3 days later. The bow wave on the bullet will tear pieces off, and even trivial damage to the cartilage will be visible for weeks after.
I don’t remember Trump as being “just fine”. I remember a very visible bandage on his ear for weeks.
The final conclusion says, it was a stray bullet and not harsh treatment by the Secret Service.
It was a chip from the teleprompter.
where can I find this final conclusion?
Sorry, for forgetting to attach the source:
thanks. I’m still confused by how people call it a “stray bullet” though; it was the attempted assassin’s bullet aimed at Trump and hit Trump although not in the temple intended. To be a stray bullet the target would’ve been someone other than Trump.
Either the bullet hit something other with a hard surface and was deflected on it’s trajectory, then I’d call it a stray bullet, or it was a glancing shot that has missed the head and only hit the ear.
Theres probs a bunch of explanations out there
Edit: According to Wikipedia, the final stance now is that the wound was caused by a stray bullet.
No link provided, so I looked it up. It’s in the article Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania, under Shooting (pretty deep in there though):
The upper part of Trump’s right ear was grazed by the first bullet Crooks fired.[99][100][101]
Note that Crooks is the name of the attempted assassin, not the secret service. He fired at him so I would not call it a stray bullet.
So, the guests were in on it being staged, and that’s why they didn’t react?
That seems to be what most people are claiming
It’s just like all the pilots and scientists being in on the flat earth.
Yeah its a weird time. I hate conspiracies, but with everything that has been unfolding over the last few years, distrust is at an all time high and i totally get it
It doesn’t help that the official state media is as reliable as a wet fart
Not at all
I don’t like the conspiracy theories going on here. If it were staged, why would the gunman be off-camera to fire the shots? Wouldn’t we get more dramatic imagery? Everything in the footage seems awkward, not like tense danger. Trump doesn’t even realize (not to mention react) when the shots are fired (which, btw, were in the hallway outside just in case this is how somebody learns that this happened) until 20 seconds after.
A society with an endless deluge of information increasingly known as “may contain distortions of reality” tends to make anyone lose their minds, one way or another.
Trump is too much of a sissy to fake having shots fired near him
I imagine this video doesn’t help the this was real crowd: https://youtu.be/tw9R4E--I2c
Vid no longer available - what was it?
I downloaded it. Let me upload it again somewhere… It’s karoline leavitt talking about a shooting going to happen at the correspondence dinner and it being exciting.
It’s an idiom…
It’s available to me. Before the dinner, Karoline Leavitt says to a journalist: “He is ready to rumble, I will tell you. This speech tonight will be classic Donald J Trump. It’ll be funny, it’ll be entertaining. There will be some shots fired tonight in the room. So everyone should tune in, it’s going to be really great.”
There will be some shots fired tonight in the room.
This sounds like shes saying that Trump is going to roast people. “Shots fired” is slang for insulting someone. In context I don’t think this is very suspicious
The “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” people had babies, and some of them grew up to be progressives.
Fun Fact: The hotel shooter was 2 floors above the President when shots occurred. Orange Donnie was not in any danger.
I don’t know if this is a good metric. A sniper can take you out from standing on-top of a high rise, 30 stories up. Compared to that 2 stories seems pretty dangerous
Two stories above in the same building. Not in a building opposite the hotel. The hotel wasn’t canvassed by the SS? I don’t fucking buy it.
I guess it have been a closed floor plan then?
The quote I saw elsewhere that summed it up best for me is, “even if it’s real, it’s still fake”.
The whole thing was just a bit too rubbish, like, if you were going to try shooting the President, the events as report seem like such an obviously useless way to go about it that there’s got to be something else going on.
My favourite conspiracy theory is that it’s their way of getting an already-sympathetic White House press corps to feel like they’re part of the whole thing, that attacks on the President are also attacks on them personally - trying to create a feeling that they and Trump are all trauma survivors who are in it together.
the events as report seem like such an obviously useless way to go about it
How come?
I don’t know how to respond to that beyond posting what’s already been said.
a gunman opened fire near a security checkpoint at the event in Washington DC.
He was tackled by agents just short of a staircase which leads down to a ballroom where the annual White House correspondents’ dinner attended by hundreds of journalists and public figures was getting under way.
Officials said he possessed multiple weapons and appears to have acted alone.
How would anyone imagine they’d be able to just blast their way through security checkpoints to get to the President? Did he think he was Neo or something?
How would anyone imagine they’d be able to just blast their way through security checkpoints to get to the President?
I don’t find it that had to believe that someone might attempt that. There are a lot of people out there who are not mentally sound
There are a lot of people out there who are not mentally sound
See I think your reasoning there proves my point quite well. If the first explanation you go to is that the person is not mentally sound, then almost by definition these are actions that don’t make sense.
Forgive me if some of the details are a little off, happy to be corrected, but:
- the first attempt during the campaign was almost certainly fake.
- barbie lady said something about “shots fired” a few hours before the incident, as though she had misunderstood something in the group chat.
- last week a judge said the only basis on which Trump could build the Ballroom was over security concerns.
- moments after the incident Trump said that they need the Ballroom because of security concerns at the WH.
- the photos do look pathetically staged, although the videos less-so.
First campaign attempt - I don’t think trump would have let some kid put bullets so close to his head
I think the idea is that the bullet never got anywhere close to him. The little nick on his ear was probably just from him getting wrestled to the ground by his bodyguards.
There is a photo of a bullet flying right past him, a reporter witnessed a piece of his ear come off, and the paths traced into the victims who unfortunately were hit, do show that the bullets went near Trump
a reporter witnessed a piece of his ear come off
Human parts don’t grow back that quick. Or ever, for most of them.
A dude was killed, its not impossible it was the murdered guy’s blood.
That dude that died was somewhere in the audience so way too far away
I think the idea is that the bullet never got anywhere close to him.
Didnt the stray bullet kill some people directly behind him?
All those bullets in the people behind him just showed up, too?
“JFK’s head just did that” level of conspiracy ‘thinking’
The little nick on his ear was probably just from him getting wrestled
There was no nick. 3 days later there’s not a single mark. I’m thinking the sharpie washed off.
I thought he hit his ear on the agents holster when they shoved his head down.
barbie lady said something about “shots fired” a few hours before the incident
That’s interesting. Do you know where I find more info on this?
Just google it brother the internet is awash with this stuff right now.
I tried looking it up, couldn’t find anything
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/karoline-leavitt-shots-fired/
TL;DR: the press secretary used the slang meaning “trump’s fiery speech at the dinner will absolutely annihilate our enemy journalists (with jabs)”
This post really hightlights how stupid some people here are.
