I’m seeing a bunch of posts insinuating that this most recent assassination attempt was fake. Why do people think this? I’m out of the loop.
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The response was too canned and uniform. There’s no fact finding, no actual concern for what happened here its all just rhetoric aimed at curtailng free speech. Add in the FBI director weighing in way too early and it all points to a setup.
There’s a real possibility the guy that did the shooting is the target of an FBI entrapment scheme or something similar.
I go with the arguments I do with 9/11, it wasn’t an inside job. The government and president knew they were going to be happening, they chose to let them happen.
“I’m seeing a bunch of posts insinuating” - I think we’re well past insinuating. Straight out declaring would be more accurate now. The man has no credibility left. No one trusts him with the truth, their money or their daughters. If I was a betting man I’d say his foreign handlers are already lining up the next candidate for the world stage. You can also tell, by the way, that none of the big media channels are buying it either. All you need to do is compare their coverage now with at the coverage of the assassination attempts of previous presidents. When Reagan got shot the whole world stopped to look. It was literally everywhere. This, so called, “attempt” was a small front page story that will be gone in a couple of days. The mid terms are coming. I expect more and more panicked moves between now and November.
I agree he has no credibility. But is there any other reason besides that to think it was faked?
He faked the last one
Just a bunch of suspicious actions lining up. obviously no one has come out and said “We are planning a false flag operation to fake an attempt on trumps life”
But you have right wing reporters being cut off mid sentence on right wing news programs when talking about the weird heads up they were given before it happened…
and when you have attendees discussing how weirdly light the security was compared to previous years when trump didnt attend (You’d think the president attending would have heavier security, not lighter than ever)
and a source in the white house leaking that it was planning a big mic drop event for the dinner about a week before hand
and you have trump, a known coward, who always typical panics and looks for cover, sitting there smirking while its happening (No flag to drop down from a crane to make a big posed picture for this time, sadly)
and the inevitable question is… what would he gain from it if it is true? And the answer is, a lot… especially when you consider what he faces after the midterms… which is impeachment and possible 25th amendment invocation… not to mention the rest…
Like His poll numbers are at historic lows. His cult is disintegrating around him, he failed in his attempt to fix the midterm elections with the SAVE act not getting passed, and as a whole popular opinion is turning against him and the republicans, to the point that even Republicans are expecting major across the board losses come the midterms.
What better way to try to reclaim some of his popularity, his polling, and his cult, and try to rally republican voters for the midterms than with another assassination attempt? Especially since the last big one (the one that supposedly shot him in the ear, that was magically healed with no scars/trauma/etc a week and a half later) did so much to boost his polling and popularity.
like I said in the very first sentence, no ones gonna come out and straight up admit that this is what factually happened, but a skeptical look at the facts at hand, and what we know about Trump and his personality… It seems like a plausible scenario to assemble from the pieces we have.
But you have right wing reporters being cut off mid sentence on right wing news programs when talking about the weird heads up they were given before it happened…
and when you have attendees discussing how weirdly light the security was compared to previous years when trump didnt attend (You’d think the president attending would have heavier security, not lighter than ever)
Where can I find more info on this stuff in particular?
https://lemmy.world/post/46078842/23420614
I compiled some links on that post.
Thank you
No prob man, and my links arent the only ones that exist. Try to find some on your own after lookin at them. Its good to get several perspectives.
The thing is people aren’t looking for reasons to believe it was faked, that’s the default with trump now. The question is what makes anyone think it’s real? He’s the one who coined fake news so can’t really blame anyone for not believing the “news” 😅
Because there’s no reason to believe it’s legitimate and every reason to believe it’s fake.
I don’t know all the details, but something that struck me as odd was the fact that this was the first WHC dinner that Trump was going to, famously being too cowardly to go to the others for fear of being mocked. Why go to this one, when his approval rating is in the toilet?
Well it was also the first one where Grindr promoted it.
This is the second WHC dinner during his second term. Last year they purposefully didn’t invite any entertainer and made no jokes about the administration to appease Trump. They showed they are ready to bow down and sacrifice freedom of speech so Trump showed up this year to express his approval.
I found it odd that immediately after, “I NEED A BALLROOM!”
And all the sycophants in unison, weirdly right after: HE NEEDS HIS BALLROOM!
he apparently hasnt gone to one once since 2011, when OBAMA roasted him.
Because there wasn’t going to be a roast. Mentalist and magician Oz Pearlman was going to host, instead.
And because, by staging a shooter, he is going to get public funding for his ballsack I mean ballroom.
Seems like a ballthimble would do.
You’re thinking about it backwards. It’s the first one the assassin tried to rush into because Trump was going to be there.
He’s asking why Trump decided to go
It’s the kind of thing he would do. Putin does it all of the time, and you know how Trump feels about him. One time Putin staged a takeover of a theater, and then gassed the theater. With hundreds of innocent members of the public inside. They got dragged across the ground and stacked up in public busses to be taken to the hospital. Over 100 died. They refused to publish the actual total. For a press op.
gassed the theater. With hundreds of innocent members of the public inside
That’s terrible! And just double-checking with a bit of searching, yeah, this was a real incident. Whether it was “staged” is unclear (not enough evidence to support or deny it due to the lack of an investigation). But the Russian authorities did indeed release a noxious gas into the theatre without any sort of evacuation or coordination with health services, yet the official report by the Kremlin hails it as a success even though over a hundred people died?! I feel like, staged or not, that is something that should be criticised.
For a bit of context, Russia was invading Chechnya, which declared independence after the dissolution of the USSR, and a Chechen militant group took over a theatre and held everyone in it hostage (how they did that, I’m not sure. Some of the sources blame it on negligence of Russian intelligence, or suggest that authorities in the area were bribed). There was a siege of the theatre, and by the second day, people started to get shot. Afterwords, the Russian special forces gassed the theatre before entering it in an assault, and most of the hostages, as well as the Chechen militants, were killed. Additionally, authorities in Russia did not say what the gas was, meaning the people administering first aid had to guess, causing more death and permanent injuries than was necessary.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Moscow-theater-hostage-crisis (Britannica)
https://academic.oup.com/milmed/article/189/9-10/228/7454807 (journal article)
There’s actually no proof the Moscow theatre hostage crisis was staged either. You’re supporting a conspiracy theory by pointing to an another conspiracy that you just made up. Y’all have completely given up on critical thinking.
When you repeatedly lie and act like an AH about some pretty major stuff, why would you expect people to believe ANYTHING you claim? 🤷♀️ Be more of a surprise if the guy ever spoke for 3 minutes without a single lie at this point lol
This seems like an organized propaganda campaign to simply disrupt and people are falling for it.
It’s likely not fake but Russia and China have official policies for spreading firehose of falsehoods whenever anything happens. They don’t even have to invent anything just amplify enough for grifters and memers to take off from there.
We are so fucked and people have just given up on finding reality sadly.
Even journalists are losing it. 60 minutes doing interview immediately without any research or preparation or time for story to develop is peak nail in the coffin for our information landscape. It’s literally the slow journalist group and they couldn’t slow down. We didn’t even need AI.
I still don’t understand why hostile nations push conspiracy theories. what is it supposed to be doing for them exactly? is it supposed to get another Trump elected?
Divide and conquer, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood etc. etc.
Destabilising the US from within creates domestic pressure that affect its ability to lead on the global stage, creating space and opportunity for aspiring superpowers like Russia and China to influence and shape the world. It also undermines the trust of US allies and partners.
who do you think trump learned it from, PUTIN, putin has done quite a few false flags since the ukraine war and before that too.
Mainly because he’s using it as an excuse to imply he needs his stupid ballroom because of national security.
That “ballroom” is a data center.
How does one become this stupid?
Because it is so convenient. He’s way down in the polls with no chance of recovery. He needs an excuse for martial law to keep the elections from happening. He is so unfit to speak and be seen publicly that they need an excuse why he can’t be out in public. And, it worked last time to get him elected. Although this time I don’t think they killed an spectator.
But low approval rate would also increase like hood of an assassination attempt right?
Just sneak in a Javelin, I don’t think it will miss
Because it seems like a him thing to do amd he’s all about the “presentation” now, to bump up stock prices.
Because we’ve been trained by the republicans to prepare for a distraction when the current news is bad.
All of the republican news is really bad right now. They’ve flip-flopped on wars with various countries and the Epstein files a few times already. Even thrown out some UFO stuff. Nothing is working though because gas prices are high and there’s no easy and clean way out of the quagmire the GOP is currently in.
It saddens me so much to know that the president can rape children, and get away with it. On top of that, the only reason people aren’t distracted from it is the fact that gas prices are still high. If gas were cheap, there is a good chance 48% of Americans would be distracted.
plus the tariffs that the MSM stopped reporting is hurting businesses alot.
Doesn’t matter whether it was real, or fake. Although, if it was real, then the Secret Service really fell down on the job. A very well-known venue, with all the time to prepare--what the fuck happened there? It could have been set up, without Trump, or the Secret Service knowing about it. The shooter might have had help from someone high up in the administration. So, not “fake”, but not a “lone gunman”, either.
All that matters is he missed.
“There will be some shots fired ronight”
Because this was Trump’s reaction to the gunshots.
He knew. Melenomia didn’t.
That’s just his I’m pooping right now face
if she can make a face from all that botox, she is definitely surprised.
he didn’t know shit. he’s senile
if he knew something, don’t you think he’d pretend?
what the hell is in your head
LOL, tell me you don’t understand malignant narcissism without telling me you don’t understand malignant narcissism.
that makes no sense
Yeah that idiot couldn’t even stop himself from saying they rigged the last elections but somehow he’s now part of a fake assassination attempt?
real one would have succeeded
