10 more minutes, I wish yall the best of luck
Took me an hour to get my order through. Delivery estimate slipped from 3-5 days to 6-10 days while I hammered the button. At least I managed to get the order through.
It seems to be sold out now, at least here in Europe.
I can’t get it to even start the purchase confirmation, it gets stuck before that
I just spammed order on the payment details and managed to get mine
Available for purchase May 4th, 10AM Pacific
Does this mean there will be no preorder? It will go for sale on that date and ship immediately?
Seems so. Would make sense too, as Valve has reportedly already received a lot of stock.
Can’t wait to check the page and see they don’t sell it at my country, than day dream of the day they will let me buy their hardware.
You can check now. I get pricing in euros so assume it’s available and someone else in the thread said they got a “not available”.
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Such joy.
Oof, 25 CAD more than a Joy Con 2 and 35 CAD less than a XB Core 2
I don’t like the 99,- price either, but the joy cons are too expensive even when compared to that, imho. I love the idea of them but wow are those ever uncomfortable for me, it just feels like a different class to me.
I also loved the OG Xbox BIG CHUNGUS, so, you know, different tastes for different people
Yeah, it means I’m buying only one rather than multiple.
I’m hoping that a lot of more games will make use of the touchpads this time, even if only by publishing a custom mapping
Same, thought about buying 4 at the get go with a more reasonable cost. But at a c note I’ll do one and test it out. Then keep an eye out for the sale in a year.
Oof, 25 CAD more than a Joy Con 2 and 35 CAD less than a XB Core 2
There a fine 8bitdo game pads that are less fancy but work really well for way less. https://www.8bitdo.com/ultimate-2c-wireless-controller/ is a good deal, especially for people who are tight on money or simply don’t play that often to care for higher end stuff.
Good alternative for a standard controller but for dual track pads, Valve is the only option. Gotta pay the niche tax.
Also no gyro controls, back buttons… Several other things you miss out on
Note that if you’re only after Gyro and Back buttons, 8BitDo’s Ultimate 2 Wireless also has these features, and they work fully with Steam after a firmware update.
If you’re looking for dual touchpads then yeah, Valve tax.
Gyro doesn’t work on Linux for that controller unless you’re using Bluetooth. You need the proprietary software.
It does, I use it exclusively with the 2.4g dongle on Linux.
You do unfortunately need the proprietary software for the initial firmware update (it works in a VM), but afterwards all you need is to ensure your distro has the proper Udev rules installed and to hold B when booting the controller.Ah so they still haven’t fixed the issue where it reverts from XInput mode every time. Glad at least it works now, though.
Maybe a stupid question, but could this work with a playstation too?
Almost certainly not natively. It might have a fallback to an XInput mode, in which case it could work with an adapter (but without the back buttons, gyro etc).
It might have a fallback to an XInput mode
No, as confirmed by Gamers Nexus. Steam Deck doesn’t either. Personally, I think it’s bad to have the requirement of Steam as a driver but there are also plenty of alternatives out there, so I’m not starting a riot over this.
According to Jeff Grubb at his video around the 20 minutes mark We’ve Been Using the Steam Controller! | Giant Bomb Review Discussion the Steam Controller will work as a regular controller without Steam being open. Steam itself is not required to use the controller, it just adds additional non standard features when open, such as customization and gyro. Sounds like without Steam being open it acts similar to a Xbox controller. But for that case there would be no need to pay 100 Dollar / Euro.
I wish though there was a more universal driver and software to that can be installed to run in the background, without Steam. So I agree with your sentiment, but just wanted mention that the controller is still (partially) functional without Steam. My suggestion is to buy the Steam Controller only, if you want to use it with Steam (duh!).
Then Jeff and GN should fight it out because they’re clearly making contradicting statements. I only have a Deck and an original Steam Controller 2015 and neither act as an Xbox controller without Steam.
I did not say it acts as a Xbox controller, but said similar to a Xbox controller.
I did not say it acts as a Xbox controller, but said similar to a Xbox controller.
And GN said that it behaves exactly like Deck and SC 2015: It’s a mouse without Steam running.
Either GN or Jeff is wrong.
Thanks for the insight!
Maybe a stupid question, but could this work with a playstation too?
Maybe as a mouse. It’s the same as with the Steam Deck: Without Steam running, it acts as a mouse NOT as a game pad. It required games to be launched from Steam to use it as a game controller.
Not natively, because Sony has a mandatory certification program for wireless controllers.
In theory you make it emulate a PS controller, or you can use a USB receiver like XIM MATRIX or do a ridiculous workaround like connect it using Playstation remote play. Maybe somebody will reprogram the included adapter to work with PS5.
I’m going to pass.
May the fourth
be with you!
And altho with you.
It is expensive, but this an automatic yes for me.
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gracias válvula
I see the same thing when I look at the store page, but in my wishlist I see a release date (adjusted to my timezone)
i know this is gonna get buried under the other 143 comments, but i just need to vent excitment, FUUUUUUUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Im gonna be in class during the launch so i really hope lecture doesnt go over anything important when im ordering it. Oh my god im so excited i can hardly contain it, there are some games I wanted to play only on my deck cus they worked better with controller
I am a little worried that if i dont get it right as it lauches im gonna miss it, but at least my one fear of it being dropped at like 6 am or something has been put to rest
In case you haven’t already, preload your Steam Wallet and make sure to account for any tax. As someone who got my Steam Deck order in the first 15 minutes it dropped, payment processing was the biggest barrier then. They might have fixed it since, but they also might not have. Good luck!
Oh well that makes me feel much better as I’m still holding on to like $200 from Christmas so that shouldnt be an issue, gonna get the preloaded on the 4th so all I have to do is hit refresh, gonna do an internet speed test to see if the college WiFi or my hotspot is faster (prolly my hotspot)
Gotta prep
Whoa I’m stoked, definitely gotta justify the cost by treating myself
10 am Pacific is 17:00 GMT. So 18:00 British summer time or 19:00 for most of the EU.
$150 CAD is gonna be an instant wait for sale from me, dawg.
In actual conversion it should’ve been 135 not 150
The overly inflated price for Canada and tax up to 15% in some provinces on top of that… 170$ basically.
Is shipping free at least?
Likewise. Its 1/3 of what a deck has sold for.
Unless it tickles my loin-goblin and makes me a sandwich while I’m using it, there’s no way I’m paying that much when my 10 year old, $25 controller still works fine.
They downvoted you because you were right
Good thing IDGAF about Internet points then I suppose!
$100 is steep. I’ve been exited to use this controller for my Bazzite system, and I was mentally prepared to pay ~$75 for it, but I really wasn’t expecting it to be as expensive as it is.
With that said, I’ll probably still be buying one. Because while there are other good (and cheaper) controllers out there, this is the only one with dual trackpads and that’s been designed for HTPC control.
I figured it would be at least $100. PS5 controllers are like $70, and this has 4 paddles, bigger battery, magnetic charger\high speed dongle, touch sensors, track pads, and the thumb sticks are like 2 generations ahead of sonys.
It’s more like a cheaply priced “pro controller” than an expensive normal controller.
designed for HTPC control
If you want more than gaming (like YouTube), wouldn’t it make more sense to get a wireless keyboard with an integrated touchpad, like the recently announced Framework Wireless Touchpad Keyboard?
I have an OG Steam Controller as well as a Steam Deck and I never ever thought to myself that for HTPC tasks would I want a controller in my had over a good wireless keyboard and mouse/touchpad.
The OG steam controller is great for HTPC use and the keyboard on it is very useful, while not as quick to type as a real keyboard.
There is still no price for the framework WTK but it still would be higher cost with a good controller than the Steam Controller.
looks great, but I’ve been pretty damn happy with my 8bitdo Ultimate 2 which goes for ~$55 US. I use it on the PC and the rare occasion I fire up my Switch. I have no doubt Valve will make the Steam Controller an excellent piece of kit, but going by what’s been released I’m not sold on it being worth almost 2x.
The 8bitdo controller doesn’t have capacitive touchpads and motion control only works on the Switch, but I’m not entirely sure I’d get much use from those features on the Steam Controller. I never use the capacitive touchpads on my SteamDeck, and gyro control has never been more than a gimmick when I’ve used it on other systems/controllers like the DualSense. I use it more for quicker character selection on an on-screen keyboard than in games. For people who DO make use of those features constantly, maybe the extra value is there.
Yeah, I definitely think how much you value this controller is directly proportional to how much of the full Steam Deck control scheme you use. As a heavy user of the Deck’s touchpads to the point I’ll never consider another handheld without them, this is still a day one purchase for me even at $99, but I’m not going to recommend it to anyone without huge caveats.
I have the 8bitdo Ultimate 2 and I’m still gonna get this (eventually, once I get a gaming PC), because the dpad is pretty bad for precise 2D games. And the back buttons don’t gel with me as nicely.
The main problem is that I’m using it for waking Switch 2 and I doubt the Steam Controller could do that, but if it’s easy to customise, someone out there might make it work. If that’s the case, instant buy.
The Ultimate 2 Gyro works on PC too, at least on the Wireless version.
Update the dongle and controller firmware via the 8BitDo App then hold the B button when turning on the controller. Steam can make use of the Gyro and extra buttons directly.Yep came here to say just this. I’ve been using mine on Linux with the gyro to play games on my TV. Only annoying thing is that when you take it off the dock it’s not in the right mode and you gotta turn it off and on again holding B first for the gyro to work.
I am in the same boat though. I still have my OG Steam controller and a Steam Deck but the 8Bitdo Ultimate 2 feels and works great. At least on SteamOS it’s even natively supported with custom 8Bitdo symbols in the Steam UI and the extra buttons showing up in steam input to remap freely.
I’m super curious to try it but I don’t really need more controllers right now.
Same. My Gamesir Cyclone 2 is so great. I don’t use the track pads at all on the Steam Deck. The 4 customisable back buttons would be useful, but not for £85. I have yet to figure out what good motion controls are in game with any controller.
But if anyone else is looking flto buy a controller this does look like a solid option.
I’ve gotten so used to having the extra re-mappable buttons on the back of controllers that I won’t use one that doesn’t have them, and have even modded both of my DualSense controllers to add them. The 8bitdo controller I mentioned has ‘em, plus it has hall effect joysticks, so IMO it’s even better than the 1st party “elite” controllers and it still comes in at half the price. If I were going to make heavy use of the extra touchpads on the Steam Controller I’d definitely be buying one.
Gyro motion controls are great for aiming in FPS games. There was a Team Fortress 2 youtuber SolarLight who used gyro aiming in a competitive setting and managed to do pretty well for himself in terms of kills. His video on it is worth a watch if you’re interested.
Not too sure where else it could be useful though.
I have yet to figure out what good motion controls are in game with any controller.
Same. I think this puts me off using the deck more undocked. Not sure if I just need to eat the pain of getting used to them but the gap versus a mouse is just so huge.
I never use the capacitive touchpads on my SteamDeck
Only in desktop mode when I don’t have my full docked setup with real keyboard and mouse. They are IMO better than touchscreen when everything is so small (and the Deck is too heavy for holding it in one hand for a longer duration).
That’s totally fair, I think to me it’s definitely worth it. Even just for being able to have input parity with the deck so I can use the same control scheme. I personally use the touch pads quite a bit too and set them up as menus for some games. You can do some pretty cool stuff with them
Do you play first or third person shooter games? if you do you should give setting up the gyro a real go of it. I configure mine to only turn on when holding down L2 (aim down the sights) and it works so damned amazing compared to just thumb stick aiming for shooting stuff. Especially sniping or compensating for full auto weapons raising up. I liked using it so much on my steam deck that I had to go buy a PS5 controller to use for my PC just to get the gyro. Setting it all up correctly on your steam deck is a bit of a pain to tweak just how you like it, but well worth it. So much fun using some clapped out sniper rifle in a borderlands game with gyro aiming.
hrm. I never thought of doing that, I’ll give it a shot. Thanks!
You bet. It’s the tits.
