• Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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    1 month ago

    See, one of the issues with today’s discourse is the extreme tribalism involved. “If you’re not with me, you’re against me”, “if you don’t agree with my side’s points, clearly you’re from the other side”.

    I’m not even from the US, dude. I didn’t support genocide, I didn’t choose anything, I’m not pretending, etc., etc.

    On top of that:

    You were warned that genocide was a losing issue. Every single time, centrists looked at people begging them to stop selling weapons unconditionally and were like “Russian! Trumpist! Other Thought-Terminating Cliche!”

    This is 100% nonsense. Trump was always going to be Israel’s lap dog, and Putin would want nothing more than more chaos in the Middle East, so this whole argument is invalid.

    Also, notice how the actual genocide started after Biden’s term was finished.

    That’s the other problem with you people - you’re so blinded by single-issues, that you have no clue what’s actually going on. Instead of having a leader who maybe, potentially, probably didn’t pressure Netanyahu to fuck off from Gaza, you got a leader who not only supported him in that, but also suggested that the whole of Gaza should be flattened and made into a vacation resort, while also bringing pain and suffering to people all across the world.

    You dug your heels in on the Gaza issue because around 70k people died there? Well, now you get to eat the pie flavoured with “9.4 million deaths by 2030” due to USAID cuts.

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      This is 100% nonsense. Trump was always going to be Israel’s lap dog,

      There was no non-lapdog running.

      Instead of having a leader who maybe, potentially, probably didn’t pressure Netanyahu to fuck off from Gaza

      No such candidate was on the ballot.

      You dug your heels in on the Gaza issue because around 70k people died there? Well, now you get to eat the pie flavoured with “9.4 million deaths by 2030” due to USAID cuts.

      I knew your genocidal shit would lose to the other genocidal shit. Plenty of people on the left tried to warn democrats to for the love of god show some movement on your only issue so they wouldn’t lose.

      They preferred losing.

      Congratulations, you got the only thing you wanted. You got genocide. Stop whining that people don’t love it as much as you do.

      • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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        1 month ago

        OK, this conversation is done. You’re in your own little world where I’m somehow taking a side, or responsible, for the US politics. You just keep assuming stuff about me, even when I told you you’re wrong. Continuing this is pointless.

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          1 month ago

          You just keep assuming stuff about me, even when I told you you’re wrong.

          First time? Try getting called a Russian for a solid year for saying that democrats have no business supporting genocide.