Piss off a bunch of french and you got a mob hunting you down.
Piss off a bunch of americans and they will still go solo at you, like minions in a movie, because grouping together is considering an evil socialism there.
Probably worried it would make them look gay.
brb, off to make an educational video on the merits of announcing “no homo” and how the simple declaration can restore order and civility.
That’s not fair, they can be duped by a senile conman to storm the capital and shit on a desk as a group.
Laws needs to change to fix this. To begin with - there has to be punishment for when Trump is breaking the law and Trump should not be able to do any punishment back.
At very least, if the president is immune from civil suits while in office for acts committed while in office, then he shouldn’t be able to sue others in civil courts.
When a president stops following the law, the army should automatically remove the entire cabinet and hold new elections.
It’s clearly illegitimate if it does not want to follow the law.
Step 1: lying to congress should be punishable immediately.
Also refusing to answer a clear question directly.
If laws meant anything, Trump would be serving his first of many lifetime prison sentences right now. But laws only work as long as people believe they should, and yet another law wouldn’t help that.
In Warhammer, there’s an Ork flying machine that works because the Orks believe it should work.
In that respect, Ork war technology is more advanced than American law.
People need to change and stop expecting that problems with the ruling class will be solved by laws. Who do you think is making those laws?
fraid so. tv and electronics in general have led to a society of couch potatoes only suitable for mashing and smothering in butter and chives
Is that actually true?
Or is it a scapegoat to disguise the impact of over policing and the massive incarnation rate?
the “over policing” could’ve been a nonissue if there had been sufficient resistance and proper accompanying legislation to curb it and enact better training programs for cadets. scapegoats can be named to anything one chooses depending on which side one sympathizes with, but for my own part i see no scapegoating beyond that thst the executive branch has instituted
the “over policing” could’ve been a nonissue if there had been sufficient resistance
That’s tired horseshit.
The Untied States should have their independence revoked
Guns were a protection from the government in 1800s, not anymore. Arm the unions with missile launchers.
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You can’t expect sixth graders to push back against fascism.
If everyone just stayed home for a few days and consume no media, with a full internet blackout in protest, all the rich people would get in line. Just unplug your router and don’t buy or consume anything.
Take sick days at work if you have to.
Sure, some get a bump from the supplies getting bought beforehand, but the majority would be in instant panic mode.
None of their fancy projections can handle that.
Edit(2): don’t not doing. Or not out
What’s great is it doesn’t even require everybody (which is basically a non starter since some would disagree with the protest).
I can’t remember where so someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but even just a 10% general strike would have a noticeable impact.
I was listening to a podcast where an expert on revolutions was talking about it.
I think it’s something like, as few as 3% of the population can achieve revolution, but their actions need to be very focused and targeted. It’s a small number but almost an impossibility.
Like any authoritarian regime there’s oligarchs supporting representatives who are supporting the leader who supports the oligarchs with tax concessions et cetera.
Nothing will change until the oligarchs decide that the current regime is not in their best interests.
If you could get 5% of the population to permanently stop using services associated with the magnificent seven, that might be enough. However it needs to be people who are presently relying on their services and they need to discontinue completely, and indefinitely, and in protest. I’m not sure I could convince even 1 person to stop using the services of a single one of those companies. Hell, I’m reliant on microsoft services myself.
It’s a small number but getting that small number to do what’s necessary is almost impossible.
Hell, I’m reliant on microsoft services myself.
Start looking for alternatives.
Baby steps.
I mean, it’s totally worth a shot. But a day or 2 isn’t going to do much. They know everyone will fall back in line after that. It’ll be a bump in their finances, sure, but It’ll be managable. These people are on track to literally enslave you. They’re not going to back off, just because a bunch of people waited 2 days to buy their new phone or groceries.
You’re here, posting these words. I’m here, reading them. And the other 98 out of 100 are doing something else, ignorant about what’s going on either purposefully, as in an ostrich, or not.
Capitalism will dangle shiny toys in one hand saying “you can have this for the right price” while emptying your wallet behind your back with the other. The idea that society will ever reject capitalism is as close to impossible as it gets. Besides, we’re already too far down the road between capitalism and totalitarianism to turn around. Lethal and independent AI is the final turning point before hell really breaks loose.
Fuck Ralph Nader. If it weren’t for him we wouldn’t have had Dubya and the Iraq war. Hell, we might not have even had 9/11 and the Afghan war because the administration would have heeded the intelligence that showed Al Qaida was planning the attack.
Yup, this presidency has killed my faith in our supposed system in record time. Congress’s inaction and complicity were the final nails. I have no faith in this country or its people. Hard to not come to the conclusion that we’re entirely motivated by greed and schadenfreude. We the people have the government we deserve.
It’s the failure of the managers of the Democratic party to elicit even the weakest of resistance that gets me above all else.
The fascists and racists are clear about who they are. Democrats and the ruling “NPR” liberal class lie to you that they are some kind of ally simply because they expect you to vote for their proffered member of the management class.
Definitely. In fact I believe many of them in high positions are secretly alright with much of what Trump and the Republicans have been up to. This resistance from our supposed representation is a joke. They’ve been out of touch with the working class and in the pockets of the elites for way too long, completely compromised.
And distrust of one another! Don’t forget that important motivation
Sure the government has been corrupted and hollowed out, but the people deserve some credit.
From Minneapolis Minnesota standing firm, building barricades in the streets, and bringing food to families to afraid to leave to folks in Portland directly engaging with frozen water cops, common citizens have shown they won’t roll over so easy.
I also just saw on Threads this morning (ick, I know) there’s a “warehouse fire tracker” that’s up to 90 now (!).
The warehouse fire thing is just a case of Apophenia. The one toilet paper warehouse arson caused people to go looking for local news reports of warehouse fires and - because they happen all the time - they found them. That doesn’t mean they’re connected or that there’s a wave of arsons vis à vis resistance against corporations. There has been no actual uptick in warehouse fires.
I think there are a lot of people and individual communities who are resisting Trump and deserve incredible credit, but it’s accurate to say that this has shown the weakness in American society.
Right now, our social fabric as a country is really frayed. We have terrible safety nets. Our ability to get healthcare is tied to our jobs (some states now are trying to implement or have implemented work requirements for Medicaid, making even that now depend on employment). Many Americans are a missed paycheck away from losing housing. Our stagnating minimum wages are making it hard for a lot of people in fields with a lower barrier to entry to build up savings, and people in traditionally high paying tech fields are seeing the encroaching threat of AI. It’s incredibly easy for employers to fire people in most places, with only a few protected categories that you can’t be fired for, and those you’d have to prove in court against an employer in a lawsuit, needing either to find a lawyer who’ll work on commission or pay up front in hopes of winning the wrongful dismissal suit, assuming you have the money for it in the first place.
Our housing supply has been badly outpaced by the demand for housing, and also large corporations are buying up swathes of housing to rent out to people at the highest rates they can get away with, while building new housing is expensive, often tied up in red tape, and rarely accessible to the average person as a result. Zoning in many places also locks people into specifically low density single-family homes, which are one of the most expensive and inefficient ways of building housing, making it harder for people to find starter homes and also making people dependent on cars, another expense that tends to put people in debt, worsen dependency on oil due to cars mostly being internal combustion and electric cars being more expensive, worsen public health for similar reasons (making healthcare access even more important, making people even more dependent on their jobs) and something which makes life even harder for folks who have a disability which makes driving impossible or requires expensive vehicle modifications.
Our food system is a mess. Many people live in food deserts where reliable access to fresh produce requires transportation long distances, and local options are mostly shelf-stable ultra-processed foods which do not fill most people’s nutritional needs on their own. These foods are profitable for large corporations which use their influence to affect public health policy to keep people dependent on these foods, prevent regulation of potentially harmful ingredients, and bury studies that show the harms of these foods. Cooking at home takes time, energy, and access to affordable ingredients that people in food deserts working three jobs to keep the lights on often just do not have.
Public schools have often experienced funding cuts leading to staffing cuts leading to school lunch being prepared using limited fresh ingredients (particularly fruits and non-starchy vegetables), ultra-processed foods and minimum labor, often by third parties due to the lack of on-site kitchens, making it hard for schools to afford to change this if they want to. This may be the only meal a day kids from impoverished families get. If their parents have any problems with the paperwork for free school lunch and fall into lunch debt, these meals may be taken away from their child and replaced with a sunflower seed butter sandwich. The federal school lunch program heavily pushes dairy as well, so good luck to lactose intolerant kids, who might get a carton of soy milk instead but probably not. (Lactose intolerance rates are higher in African-American, Native American and Latine populations, of course.)
Public schools are frequently under-funded, and are funded primarily by property taxes for the school district, meaning that public schools in areas where people are already disproportionately impacted by poverty are going to have lower funds, contributing to lower quality school meals, fewer resources, fewer teachers with larger classes, and generally as a result less effective education. Private and charter schools may come in, but of course may charge for the education of their students (making it inaccessible to many), and often have substantially fewer regulations and anti-discrimination rules, allowing them to wield their power to effect desired agendas. Many are specifically religious and will teach their students according to the specific religious interpretation of those running it. Do they choose to interpret the Bible as forbidding same-sex relationships and identifying as anything but the gender you were assigned at birth? Fucking sucks for you, queer students!
And speaking of people pushing their preferred reading of their preferred religion from a position of power, we have lost huge amounts of third places, such that for many people, their only real available third place for in-person socialization is their local church. Don’t share a religion with most of your neighbors? Sucks to be you. Differ in interpretation of a shared religious text from your local church? Sucks to be you. These churches have an outsized influence on local communities, and in many rural and predominantly white places in the US, they are pushing a specific version of white Christian Nationalism passed down from the top by influential rich folks who subscribe to those beliefs. And because of the gutting of social safety nets, a lot of local churches or religious organizations are the main option for seeking assistance with things. Trans? Muslim? Good luck with your local Salvation Army and their discriminatory policies.
I could go on long enough to write a damn book. Social media created by billionaires, optimized to be addictive and lock people in to their services even as they enshittify, have become one of the few other options for socializing, and are constantly pushing misinformation that serves a fascist Christian white nationalist agenda. Journalistic sources both local and national are being bought up by billionaires turning the reported news to their own agenda. Public funding for scientific research is being cut, leading to scientists relying on private grants to continue their research, allowing – surprise surprise – billionaires to exert outsized influence on who gets to practice science and what they research. Municipalities are collapsing under the financial weight of inordinately expensive car-centric infrastructure that they cannot afford, leading to them cutting more services and municipalities with predominantly impoverished residents especially struggling.
I barely even touched on the ways that sexism, racism, ableism, anti-queer discrimination, xenophobia and our broken migration system (broken in the sense that under-resourcing of immigration courts and absurd laws make it a long and difficult process for migrants to obtain legal residency and citizenship, leading to many migrants being left without documents and thus vulnerable to exploitation and further targeting by ICE) amplify these things and make them worse, nor how they divide people and make working class solidarity more difficult, nor how Imperialism and the Imperial boomerang affect things, nor our police system that actively incentives officers to act in harmful ways and prevents accountability, nor a million other things because everything is just too damn much. I literally forgot to even mention the US making war on Iran! Oh, the Epstein files! Voter suppression and gerrymandering!! Gun violence!!!
So frankly, it is a Goddamn miracle that despite all of this, people are organizing. It is a testament to the resiliency and endurance of humanity that Minnesota is organizing against ICE. It is beautiful that people are organizing national strikes, and that the numbers are slowly growing. It is heroic that people are forming mutual aid groups and building local power and building food and housing security.
I won’t say there aren’t a lot of American people who suck. People voted Trump in, twice, and many of his voters are actively celebrating his cruelty, while the remainder are like “oh, I didn’t like the cruelty, but I thought he would be good for the economy,” which, okay, “I’m only overlooking The Horrors because money!” isn’t much of an excuse. A lot of working class Trump voters have been shaped by webs of disinformation and targeted manipulation that make them vote against their own interests, and I have a sliver of sympathy for that, but actively choosing to support or ignore the horrors being inflicted upon the vulnerable by this government is simply bad. They are choosing to do bad things.
So yeah, some of the American people do suck. But it’s not most of us. Our society is broken, and it’s going to take incredible work to fix it. So I don’t see “the weakness of the American society has led to this” as a damnation of our people nor a downplaying of what so many are doing to fix it; I see it as a descriptor of the problem, in hopes of helping realize the solution.
Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk. Support your local mutual aid network. Start a garden. Advocate for housing reform in your community. Do something so that you know you are a part of the solution, and do not try to do everything, because you will burn out and this can only be fixed by rebuilding our society as a group, not a single individual fixing everything.
Also, if anyone knows how to do a “read more” block, please tell me? I’m using Voyager and don’t see it built in, and the Markdown implementation for collapsed text blocks varies across every implementation I’ve seen.
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AFAIK only “spoiler” formatting enables the expand-for-detail behavior you describe.
I use it similarly for anything long, even if it’s just collapsing to the first sentence of each paragraph.
(Note that you’ll have to use the “select text” menu option on this comment to see the syntax of the examples below.)
Thesis A
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Most clients render first level no problem. Only a few allow nested/multi-level. GL 👍
Thank you! I actually discovered this like yesterday, but had totally forgotten about this old comment. Updated!
What you are seeing is the end result of a fifty year long class war against the middle and working Americans that the rich have waged, and won.
Warren Buffet was making this known two decades ago and no one listened.
And what has buffet done to address the issue?
Pushed for a change to the tax code - this is just one old man remember - and the government made some noises about it, but ultimately failed to go anywhere on the issue, esp. so since Trumplestiltskin took office.
Thank you for the link. I was genuinely curious and uneducated about it.
Glad to help!
I guess, as a rich capitalist, he helped to escalate the issue.
The business plot never died it just mutated
Unless you rewrite the constitution this will keep happening
There must be a separation of corporate influence from government, billionaires should not be allowed to involve themselves with politics in any way, no funding, no support, you choose to become a billionaire you lose your vote, same for religions
Of course citizens united turned political corruption into a big business and opened a gaping national security hole
It’s all fucked and a new constitution is needed
The military becomes the last line of defence, gun rights have to go
Longer than that, I’d say. The rich have been screwing with the lower classes since the country was founded.
This is not the first time though. The reason the 50s were considered a golden age for the middle class is because after the great depression we showed them who is the boss and taxed the shit out of them. We need to do it again, and frankly we need to go beyond posting on Facebook, Instagram, tiktok and other crap.
Those sites exist to keep us in disengaged.
The rich have been screwing with the lower classes since the advent of money. Point me to a time in world history where those with money and power didn’t abuse the rest of us. The problem with hierarchical systems is the worst people always end up rising.
I claim that the bugs living in your stomach would consider you a compassionate and wise ruler if they could think. You eat food, they convert the food into shit and usable nutrients, and then you dispose of the shit. It’s a win-win relationship for both parties.
They control our thoughts way more than you’re considering.
Ever get “hangry?”
Democracy at work.
Here is the demand: eating a meal. A succulent Chinese meal. This is democracy manifest.
You can also say
The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guildmaster and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, that each time ended, either in the revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.
There is a movie with Jeremy Irons and I can’t recall which one. But he discussed how the rich are always the same for a milenia and we are just observing their control change forms over and over and over again.
It’s not that the system is bad, although it’s not robust enough, it’s that it was totally took over, and no system can survive that. Congress isn’t inactive and complicit, it is, as well as all the other branches, under complete control of the same group of people it was supposed to keep in check, and that happened as a consequence of decades of direct political action.
People felt victim of apathysation and surrendered control of their country to grifters and frauds. That happens sometimes. Better luck next time.Congressional Democrats shut the government down for a record length of time in refusal to fund ICE.
There are a million other things they didn’t do, but they did do this one thing.
Stop him? American society created him.
Not really sure how to fix this.
Could we say that technically Australia created him? Rupert Murdoch is the devil.
Rupert Murdoch gave up his Australian citizenship.
Since 1985, he’s 100% US. He’s all yours.
Fucken oath! American capitalism allowed him to build the massive media empire that he has now. Couldn’t have done it from here.
A cause, not creation. Trump is our collective shadow, as it were. That thought where you want to say “Fuck the Rules” and do whatever you think is best, damn the consequences, is where Trump comes from.
- The war with Iran? Iran has been pestering the US for some time. So why not just kill those guys and be done with it?
- Europe keeps talking back and disrespecting your authority. So why not teach them a lesson by increasing prices on their stuff?
- Maduro thinks he can fuck with the US as much as he wants. Let’s see if he still feels that way in an American prison!
- The people whining in Minnesota must have been put up to this by the Radical Left or something. A good hit to the head will calm them down!
Iran has been pestering the US for some time.
How so?
Ousting the Shah, preventing the US from furthering their interests; selling Shahed drones to Russia for use in Ukraine; being in China’s sphere of influence.
Hey, we’re not solely to blame. He cut his teeth in the UK media market - they deserve some of the blame too.
They just point at Jimmy Saville’s grave and hand you a copy of 1984
As the UK always does…
Yeah the analysis has to start with the fact that a majority of American voters chose this.
Not really sure how to fix this.
By uncreating him?
That leaves the process for creating another one intact.
We all know that another Trump is coming. And this other Trump will be far worse than this one.
Sure but can’t we just try to deal with this Trump first ?
By all means. But can you?
I agree but who knows if that will be in 3, 10, or 20 or 50 years
My money is on 20-30 years. That’s enough time for:
- Trump’s death.
- The GOP attempts to prop up a direct successor to Trump, which fails.
- The Dems regain some control over the country as the Never Trumpers and MAGA fight over the direction of the GOP.
- Massive stagflation occurs as a result of Trump’s activities when he was alive. And corporate greed.
- Many years pass, and New Trump offers a new way forward for the GOP. He distances himself from Trump by saying he won’t TACO, and he’ll make foreign countries suffer for putting the US in the current (future) economic crisis.
- New Trump builds up a coalition and wins bigly.
For a country with so many guns, they’re not very good shots.
France isn’t willing to bankrupt themselves again for the colonies.
There’s been multiple assassination attempts in his first year of this administration
Well, if we count half-sentient lunatics walking around Florida as an assassination attempt that is. But even if we do, in a country that has more guns then people, he was shot at once, and even then it was in that part of the ear that completely heals leaving no traces of a scar, so really, it doesn’t count.
Last I checked all of those people were right wing chuds. Make of that what you will.
No? Two were Ukraine guys, pretty much centrist liberals. One was all over the place
I didn’t know “Ukraine guy” was a political position.
Support of US support of the Ukrainians in the Russo-Ukraine War. Both Routh and now Allen had documented public statements of that - https://thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-whcd-shooters-bluesky-posts-revealed-aggressively-anti-trump-jd-vance-pro-ukraine
The WHCD guy was a weapons grade shitlib.
He was complaining about Hasan Piker on the train to DC.
Sounds like the problem may inevitably take care of itself.
He’s had so many he’s smiling at other people and being pretty unsafe about his own safety.
They had better aim when JFK was president.
The problem is that the executive branch has too much power. Congress should have a committee of scholars convene and propose laws that would balance the powers of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches. The laws would be forwarded to Congress for debate and implementation as they are proposed.
Doesn’t work when one side says scholars are literal enemies and traitors. Sorry.
Democrats can use this against Republican candidates running for reelection. Just say this candidate voted against this proposed reform and say what the reform is.
The problem is the people that voted for the Republican candidates are (mostly) absolutely thrilled by their voting history. Even if they aren’t, there are tooooons of Republicans that would rather eat a mile of shit than ever vote for a Democrat. Welcome to the world of ultra polarization. We’re divided beyond recourse.
I don’t think this is quite so true. If the only thing the resistance did to win back power was grab the presidency, that still wouldn’t be nearly enough. Trump and his body of oligarchs managed to corrupt the DOJ, the special counsel, the supreme court, an entire political party, and more. It is a machine far beyond one person that prevented the checks and balances on him.
I’m open to people’s suggestions for how to improve the three branches, but I’m sad to say, even when such suggestions bring up “a special commission, a voter-approved team of judges, a friggin’ AI”, there’s no absolute means to say that group won’t be either corrupted by special interests through insidious means, or completely ignored when their time comes to act.
I don’t understand why people are acting like half the country didn’t want him. Present them with any other option and they will still choose him even today.
Not half. Only 65% of the population who was eligible to vote, did so.
That means a majority of Americans rejected Trump.
And why didn’t they vote?
Many reasons. Stupidity being the main one. According to the US department of Education, 54% of American adults cannot read or write prose beyond a sixth grade level. I have also read that almost 20% of the adult American population are functionally illiterate.
Even when you take those people out of the equation you’re still left with a majority of people who are not paying attention to politics or current events. Some of those people will performatively vote during presidential elections, patting themselves on the back for being a good citizen while making choices they do not understand. All of the people I have described are not sophisticated consumers of media and are easily swayed by mass media.
And this doesn’t even get into the problem of voter suppression and people working multiple jobs having a difficult time finding time to vote.
Try explaining that to the single celled organisms here and they might explode.
If you didn’t vote then you may as well have voted for him regardless.
You can’t convince those people of this. Similarly, it’s damn near impossible to get people to understand that you can vote your conscience in primaries but you need to be strategic in the general.
Im still trying to figure out how people like you think half the population voted for him. He won a plurality, which means more than his opponent. A majority is over 50%.
Only <65% people of voting age even voted (including 3rd party candidates). He didnt even win a majority amongst only those who voted. And who of the remaining 35%+ is fascist or anti-fascist? They’re pretty vocal, now.
Any other option lmao. Dude, he’s the least popular president in history. What are you huffing?
Not to mention, during Trump’s first two races, him and his cronies did everything they could to meddle with the results. Do we all think they just gave up on that the third time around?
Almost half of the voting population clearly saw the possibility of him becoming a president again, and decided that preventing that is not worth an afternoon of their time. That’s a choice. That’s a direct, active action that those people did.
Most of americans were either in favour or a pedo becoming their king, or didn’t see anything wrong with it.“Didnt have time because they were working to avoid homelessness” is also an option. That isnt a direct, active decision. Voting and getting your ballot thrown out isnt your fault, either.
A lot of ancient people who dont need to work are the ones voting against their, and our, best interests. Voter suppression, throwing out millions of valid democratic ballots, extra ballots with only Trump on them, a lot of interesting things happened in 2024.
Most people didnt vote for Trump. Most people who didnt vote who would have, actually abstained due to the success of the anti-Kamala Palestinian propoganda. It was a whole ultra-liberal BS thing that I saw a ton of. Some people certainly didnt care, but your phrasing makes it sound like you believe a majority of people wanted Trump in power. That is simply untrue.
Our country did what it usually does when it gets too comfortable: Get extremely angsty and shoot ourselves in the foot because we think one candidate is so obviously evil they cant win. We are (and this is true) as smart as a headless ostrich. Overconfidence and a lot of moral grandstanding got us where we are.
Hope you’re happy, idiots. Thats not directed at you, just annoyed the comparison between eating gross tasting food vs trying to eat shards of glass resulted in people choosing shards of glass. George Carlin had a piece on something very similar, I just cant remember the exact quote.
I wouldn’t say that. There’s a lot of disenfranchisement going on with many people across the country. They could still be able to vote but for a myriad of reasons simply be unable to.
I guess so, but I don’t think even with those people included, the statistics will change a lot. Unless there is way more people who were barred from voting, like, millions more. Which means there is so much deeper issue underlying all that, and nobody really talks and knows about it. Which will be so much worse.
Only <65% people of voting age even voted
That’s because democrat voters couldn’t bring themselves to vote for a woman.
They said her problem was that she smiled too much… Then the country chose the rapist who’s destroying them as we speak.
American voters from both sides are responsible for all the death and suffering caused by their president.
And somehow it’s never their fault.
he’s the least popular president in history
Still he was elected by the american people, after being a convicted rapist and trying to overthrow democracy in the USA.
Americans should be ashamed that he even was a candidate.
Don’t try to make excuses, americans did this.
Trillions being spent on a curated entertainment system (and protecting it) really does that. Fox Entertainment News (the real name of the show) is just allowed to misrepresent themselves as a non-satirical platform, though thats what they argued they were in court to try to get around lying constantly. They got sued due to election lies propogated by them on behalf of Trump. We know why now, its the threat of public humiliation (not even prison time) for wealthy people. If people find out Bezos eats babies, that wont stop Amazon from being profitable. People will just be repulsed by him to a further degree.
There needs to be a genuine mechanism for punishing media outlets for spreading malicious lies that literally resulted in a terrorist attack on the capital of the country. Like, what?
Yes, the laziness and assumed victory due to volume of people who were anti-Trump, and people who felt safe being anti-Kamala while voting for moral grandstanding reasons, thinking they wouldnt get punished by Trump winning because it seemed impossible, definitely fucked us over immensely. Propoganda is just better when you have a system that exerts absolute control over everything you see, hear, and read.
I live in a small republican town. They literally have no idea whats happening in the world around them. I spread the knowledge of what ICE is doing, and a tiny bit of change has happened. There are a LOT less redcaps and more people half-joking about ICE. Someone literally made a joke about calling them for a mexican standoff. I live around some racist people who dont care about deportations, until you describe and prove the conditions those poor people are forced to live in. Everyone they know watches fox. Everywhere has it playing on a tv in the corner, even a lot of stores do. Its hard to crack that egg because they’re just SO FREAKIN INSULATED FROM REALITY. These are people who vote, but only hear about politics and the world outside their lives through their kids, when they listen to them.
These cudgel wielding, clay tablet carving asspickers are why we’re here. Rupert Murdoch is a large part of why we’re here. Poor education is 100% at fault for this. Im just around average intelligence and the people in this town think Im a genius. Great for my ego, terrifying for our future. Im not smart enough to make decisions about our future, or to completely understand what we’re living through. If thats smart, we’re fucked.
Yes, the people are definitely to blame. I fully agree. Anti-Kamala moral grandstanding and refusing to vote ruined us. I hope everyone who didnt vote for moral reasons sleeps well, knowing they incited and supported multiple genocides, including the one they were a widdle angwy about. We couldve fixed that with public opinion. We cant fix a dictator who has a psychotic koolaid following of people who genuinely think he’s never done anything wrong. Some people here think 1/6 was a hoax or a protest, if they even know about it. Im not saying it isnt the fault of the people, but there was definitely a lot of money and cheating (as per usual) put into that election.
If you honestly thought that was true, aren’t you saying it was irresponsible of the Dems to run a woman when the election was supposed to be an existential matter?
Maybe you’re right, maybe it was irresponsible of them to trust the intelligence of americans.
They obviously don’t, which is why they didn’t run a primary.
But let’s pretend that it was sexism that kade Harris lose. Isn’t failing to anticipate that a huge error by Democratic leadership, who anointed Harris?
Exactly what I said.
Democracies have been ready for female leaders for decades but somehow americans still prefer convicted criminals.
Ok, so if Trump was an existential threat, why did the Democrats choose to run a woman?
Correction, voters couldn’t bring themselves to vote for an incompetent candidate. The Democrats had years to find someone electable and failed. Biden was a self-stated bridge candidate. Orange Julius was elected because the Democrats failed.
She was and still is objectively the most competent candidate, saying otherwise is exactly what enables trump. His propaganda works with you.
If she was competent she would have won the election. Just look at what she was running against. A clearly deteriorating Joe Biden was able to beat him in 2020 and buy the DNC some time to get their shit together. Why are some unable to see that the Democrats own a big chunk of where we are today?
Are you aware that the Biden administration, as a condition of Joe stepping aside, insisted that Kamala not deviate from the administrations policy positions at all? She was hamstrung from the beginning.
You may be unaware that when Joe stepped aside the only person who could legally replace him on the ticket was Kamala Harris.
If true, this information makes her even less competent. Only a fool would agree to be hamstrung by the policies of the prior administration.
But Kamala wanted to eat babies (Palestinian babies at that!) she wanted to grab every single Palestinian by the neck and personally strangle them. I couldn’t be bothered to vote for her because nothing would be different right now! Biden was senile and I insisted they changed the candidate. When they did, I just knew Kamala would start a war with Iran! I am just glad I stayed home and let things spiral out of control. Any day now things will get better thanks to me staying home!
— some idiots here who I am more and more convinced are bots or paid trolls.
When can you ever push back on the DNC for being unable to put forward a good candidate?
If you talk about primarying any DNC candidate they kick you out of the party
Big if true. Like, enormous if true.
You can primary whoever you want. Go for it. Progressive policies are always popular with the youth, but those fuckers don’t vote.
Mandami kinda gives me hope, but I’m not going to hold my breath. If you can’t get the votes with progressive policies, don’t be surprised you end up with Pelosi, Clintons, etc. That’s politics. Or you can pretend your way is the only way and do whatever you want. Not like there haven’t been progressive candidates. They just don’t get votes.
Carter tried to treat the US like adults and run progressive policies, and we decided to boot him and go with Trump lite.
When someone is offering you fascism, you go with the non-fascist every time. Or not, I guess.
because 2/3 of voters did not vote against him, therefore they are either okay with it or were unable to vote
my assumption is that the size of the latter group, while significant, is not 15% of voters
By that token, more people didnt vote for Trump. That means he lost because 2/3 of people didnt vote for him.
not really how popular votes work
Exactly my point. Thank you for agreeing that your argument was silly.
I see what you’re trying to do, and you’re failing. it’s not the same logic.
It literally is. Your argument is that people who didnt vote for Trump wanted him to be president. All people who didnt vote for Kamala are somehow pro-Trump. If that wasn’t your intent, you need to work on how you phrase things.
All I did was say precisely what you said lol just the other way around. Thats because people who didnt vote… did not vote! Ascribing a desired candidate to people who didnt participate is … not how it works!
Everyone that doesnt go to subway hates subs so they absolutely must like burgers! See? Silly.
A lot of people felt disenfranchised and abstained due to a sense of moral superiority to be sure. That doesn’t mean they voted for Trump or felt like Trump was the superior candidate. People who dont pay attention to politics didnt vote for or against either candidate, people who didnt vote also didnt vote for or against either candidate.
