• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Meh, the US was founded by a bunch of slave owning wealthy protofascist genocidal fucks. You can’t really recover from country designed by the wealthy for the wealthy.

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      2 months ago

      How’s that? Every current democracy, including the decently functioning ones, started as an oligarchic system of some kind.

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        2 months ago

        I was just commenting that pre-Trumplethinskin is an imaginary state as the US was fascist before we had a name for it. You can’t harken back to a supposed better time when it never existed except inside the head of a misinformed person.

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          2 months ago

          Even if we accept that, doesn’t the existence of somewhat functional democracies that also started as oligarchies refute the statement that “you can’t really recover”?

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            2 months ago

            No, I reject your premise. Numerous studies have shown the will of the people is a false premise. We live in a fascist world that uses democracy as a window dressing for oligarchy.

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            2 months ago

            I believe they are saying that since the previous state was not functional, returning to it would not count as recovery and one needs to fix underlying problems that existed for most/all of the USA’s history.

            In git terms: Reverting the branch to the pre-2016 state will not be enough because the issue was caused by old technical debt and one will have to refactor that as well.

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      1 month ago

      specifically racist, white ,mysogynistic people. remember nazi party really started in the USA, germany just took pointers from our segregation laws.

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      2 months ago

      Yea. This country was doomed from the start. This is just the inevitable end to our fucked up society. The world is better off without this Imperialist shithole helping to rot the world.

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        1 month ago

        the propagandas worked so well, people dont support any progressive developments in the USA. Its just a slow death/decline for the usa going on for like 50+years. the gop is the bleeding wound, and the DNC is the temporary bandaids.