I had one of these CAPTCHAs recently and it still gave me the option to verify by clicking the squares. I wouldn’t be surprised if they phased out the ‘legacy’ verification though.
closing the tab works better
Are there any examples of sites using this?
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Then you are a robot
For a decade or two now, it’s been pretty much assumed that everyone has an internet-connected, camera-equipped, browser-capable device in their pocket. Restaurants, banks, hospitals, employers and even government offices use QR codes and websites to get you to their menus, forms or services.
If ID is being tied to my mobile spy device, then I need my mobile spy device to be a right and not a luxury. $40-50 for a few years of validity, internet access provided at no cost, even if slow. I can have my luxury phone be where I’m ‘anonymous’, but I want the government to subsidize the mobile spy device if it’s a mandatory expense. Even cheap phones cost a lot of money.
To be clear, I don’t want ID tied to my phone, but it’s gotten harder to exist without one, so it should be something we have access to with minimal friction.
Add food, water and shelter to that list, but you can’t ask for them without a web browser.
You can install Google Play Services as a sandboxed app on GrapheneOS. That’s not the issue. I believe the issue is that Google will use hardware attestation to check if the OS you’re running it on is Google-approved.
eww recaptcha,spyware piece of shit.
I really wish Jolla got their crap together honestly
I don’t use the internet for much these days, but I am on graphine OS and I have yet to be blocked from websites due to it. My adblocker prevents me from some, and not allowing javascript prevents me from some, but I’ve never seen that QR code or had any site prompt fro Google play services
this seems too new to be widespread yet
Right? Google is extremely well known for its A/B testing.
Does this only happen on chrome? Can you just bypass it by using another browser like firefox?
No, I think.
As I understand it, it’s a separate system, kind of like the TOTP 2FA, for comparison, but in this case it would be an additional system, and where normally anyone can use any provider for TOTP, this one is Google only. If websites implement this, and many likely will, you can only use those sites if you have a Google permitted phone that leeches all your private data 24/7
Isn’t the future awesome?
It’s time for a class action lawsuit.
it’s time for class action arson
More like a class action EMP attack on data centers. But who knows, maybe the AIs will be the energy shift this world needs to get us out of this mess. They can’t code regression corrections to force them into their desired bias ad infinitum. At some point these bots will outsmart it and get good enough to manipulate everything into optimization. Our luck might depend on what their definition of optimized is.
And now I realize how desperate our position is that bots might be our only hope.
I don’t know how widespread this is yet, but I experienced it for the first time yesterday on Chromium. Have not on Librefox.
I didn’t know what was going on, so I left the site. Was only trying Chromium because the site had issues with Librefox.
I’m using Firefox on GrapheneOS and recaptcha still works normally for me.
Eventually privacy minded people like us will have to start creating and visiting sites on the dark web.
Sheesh, using alternative sites instead of Facebook and Reddit isn’t using the dark web.
if they add this requirement for the “I’m not a robot” technology this affects way more than stupid Facebook, reddit and the likes, most things behind anti DDoS use this shit.
I find this very dystopian, and there are not many “oh I’ll just visit the sites than don’t have it” alternatives. You might as well just open IRC and be done with it, I tend to visit a bit more of the internet (even if I haven’t visited Facebook, Instagram and the likes in years)
Ayup absolutely. Those co’s have such weight. They can drive this into essential services. Banks. Gov services. All online stores. Heck even sites that don’t need logins.
It’s short sighted to say “I’ll just use other sites then”. The end of that road is, we get excluded from modern life.
You’re so right, it’s dystopian.
No fuck that we must continue to grow the movement and get more people on board. We don’t give in to those rats and their garbage they try to put on us. Together we all can do together. Fuck them. Many of us already are doing and the more the better
How do you even scan a QR code if you’re browsing on your phone?
You have to move all the black pixel blocks into the empty spaces and solve the puzzle to open the link. Than cenobites come out of your phone and show you pleasures beyond pain.
Mirrors
The “Mobile Verification” option “will initialize the reCAPTCHA app on your device”.
Drives me crazy how common this is too
Really? I don’t remember seeing it so far…
exactly …
Google lens. :facepalm:
Default GrapeneOS camera app has a QR code scanner
And how can the camera scan its own phone screen for the QR?
I think apps can have screenshot permission, so just by using that feature
Why would I give an app screenshot permission? That is such a security nightmare.
The answer is always convenience. Me stating that something exists doesn’t mean I blanket approve of it
My solution is take a screenshot and then open the file in a separate QR reader app that can open files.
Yeah I’m just not going to use their website. Fuck all that.
On Samsung phones you take a screenshot and then tap the “T” icon for screenshot OCR, it will let you click any QR code on the screenshot.
Google Lens is also an option if you have that installed
When my current iPhone dies, I’m never having a smartphone ever again.
What do you plan to do? Dumbphone? No phone? Break glass in case of emergency phone in a faraday pouch?
I’m considering a break-glass dumbphone in a faraday pouch. I REALLY fucking hate location tracking. I’d keep it seperate from my IRL ID. Prob is, it’s hard. Screw up once, big data pounces. One call tied to your name in any way. One friend puts it in their contacts. One time to forget the pouch and there’s a location ping at your residence. Not to mention the difficulty of even buying it and setting up a plan. Ugh :(
I’m a teams app for dumb phones away from getting off smart phones. I’m fiddy and have to use my readers to even see my phone, so I’ve slowly stopped using it for much outside of random apps for appliances. I can get an ipad for that, though. I’m also a privacy advocate, but I’ve made peace with the fact that ship has pretty much sailed
I’m running a Pixel 8 rn. Should I deadass switch to an iPhone ATP?
You could switch to a Linux phone…
But then it comes with its own issues that many people do not want to deal with
Just install GrapheneOS and run Sandboxed Google Play Services.
Smartphones are such an utter wretch nowadays, & I’m not even sure if there was a time they weren’t. I don’t get the appeal of a smartphone, they do everything a dumbphone does but worse, more expensive & with an unremovable thick layer of scum, yeah a smartphone has some of the features of a laptop or desktop but who needs that baked into their phone for every moment?
People are trying so hard to fix smartphones (even by giving money to the least privacy respecting companies ever by buying Google phones) when they can get a dumbphone and be rid of those problems in the first place. Well that’s my opinion at least, I think it might be a bit extreme.
You really don’t get the appeal or you just feel differently? I don’t like roller coasters but my reasoning doesn’t include me not getting the appeal others have for them.
but who needs that baked into their phone for every moment?
Approximately 5.78 billion people.
In theory, you’re correct. Smartphones have way more attack surfaces than 'dumb phones’for big tech and other sinister actors to exploit. But ‘dumb phones’ are not clear of this. They are still used by the providers to read your texts and listen in on your calls, plus tracking you based on the towers being used.
It’s not easy to make a choice. If you have a smartphone with stock firmware, your whole life is being tracked, if you go with GrapheneOS (my case) some of that is minimized by using Signal and VOIP instead of mobile ams and calls. If you go with the dumb-phone, you’re effectively clear from all those tracking methods, but the mobile providers still have a shitload of ways to follow you around together with what you do, when and with whom, but Big Tech is removed from the equation.
Unfortunately, other than not having a portable device of any type with some type of connection, we’re flat out of options, and then that would effectively remove you from society for the most part. What a fucking conundrum.
“even by giving money to the least privacy respecting companies ever by buying Google phones”
To be fair, Pixels are available secondhand, often in Mint condition, which is why my last three Pixels and any other phone/tablet I’ve bought have been through https://swappa.com/.
