Dear Christian,
What if, after you die, you find out you’re dead, and you’ve wasted your precious time all along?
You lose.
p.s. your God is obsessed with foreskins, you lose either way.
Pascals Wager was already stupid in the 17th century, it hasn’t really improved in the 350 years since then. Why do we need to rehash this still.
If god were to be real I’d like to think that finite and cringe concepts like “do you love me because I killed myself for you? (Tick the according box)” would be so laughably far removed from the conversation that’s it’s not even up for consideration.
The supposed almighty creator, who resides over everything in existence itself,…. Spends it’s time worrying wether or not you touched yourself and why you didn’t believe in the santa guy from a book mostly used by evil conmen. Don’t make me laugh.
A long time ago, I had a friend bitching that people weren’t getting all dressed up at her church. I’ve always said that if God was real, they wouldn’t give a rats ass what people wore to church.
It never seems to occur to them that if there was an entity so powerful that it could literally create an entire Universe out of nothing, and then monitor the progress of ever single element of that Universe, then that entity would be far too complex for our puny human minds to even comprehend.
And yet there are those among us who would dare to claim to know exactly what that all-powerful entity is thanking, and what it wants from us, and oh, yeah, it always costs a lot of money, gimme.
If there is a god, what’s the chance that you have the “correct” one of all the religions ever invented? If you go to hell for following the “wrong” religion your chance of going to hell is much higher than of hitting the jackpot.
Yep Ancient Egypt had it right with their religion. You die and Osiris says hi.
The concept of absolute forgiveness is terrifying to me. Rape, murder, and make people suffer with greed and corruption all you want … then say “Im sowwy about all that, forgive me” before you die and into Christian heaven you go. Fuck that. I want no part of that “heaven” … that is where pure evil will reign, it will be hell.
If I were evil and wanted to corrupt a bunch of religious idiots I would tell them that they didn’t have to be decent people, that they could just do what they wanted because a zombie god died for their sins. That would lead them to worship the wealthy and not care about their fellow humans, the suffering would be everywhere. Do you think that could work?
If I were evil and wanted to corrupt a bunch of religious idiots I would tell them that they didn’t have to be decent people, that they could just do what they wanted because a zombie god died for their sins. That would lead them to worship the wealthy and not care about their fellow humans, the suffering would be everywhere. Do you think that could work?
That’s pretty much the way it works now, so, yeah, start your own religion.
I think the matter is simple.
If there is a God, he should let me in for being a good person. If he is as vain as Christians make him out to be, I wouldn’t worship him anyway.
If god turns out to be real then heaven is likely hell.
Based on what god has shown us so far he is a dictator who enjoys watching his little creatures suffer in too many ways to count. He is most likely an emotionless psychopath. He used his Jesus avatar once publicly to show that he’s “one of us”, showed off his admin rights by turning water to wine and resurrecting himself, and then logged off again with no consequences.
It’s the equivalent of a billionaire going with public transport for a day to show how grounded and normal he is.
If god exists and can truly control what comes after death then we are all fucked and need to find out how to kill him.
Maybe after death we resurrect into a full blown souls against god rebellion that has been going on for a few hundred years
The God of the Bible is a monster.
If after I die god turns out to be real, I’d probably still go to heaven because I felt bad about my sins and that’s pretty much all that’s needed to get into heaven according to the New Testament. 🤷♂️
Jesus disagrees with you.
He said the path to Heaven is very narrow and crooked, and few find the way.
The path to Hell is wide and straight, though, so you’ll be in good company!
There’s also that part about accepting Jesus as your Lord & savior, so make sure you say those words, or get someone to say them over you before your brain waves stop.
You don’t want to be kept out of heaven on a paperwork technicality.
I forgot to informing and yet get you combustor: such a bitch
Even if a creator exists, I reckon that it has long forgotten that it made this shitty planet.
“Hey G-man, those creatures you made are getting out of control.”
“Huh? What crea- Oh. Oh fuck. That was supposed to be thrown out 3 millenia ago. I fucking forgot. It’s probably all rotten and moldy now.”
It’s win-win:
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God is real, and loves athiests anyway.
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God is real, and can’t blame you. They made it real hard to prove.
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God isn’t real, which you don’t find out, cuz you’re dead.
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…Or dead-ish?
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God’s realness is predicated on belief:
“I refuse to prove that I exist,” says God, “for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.” “But,” says Man, “The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.” “Oh dear,” says God, “I hadn’t thought of that…”
Or: God is real, he’s as vindictive, petty, and cruel as the Bible portrays him to be and anyone like that you definitely don’t want whatever their idea of heaven would be.
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Dear reader,
What if, after you die, you discover that string theory is correct, the the universe and reality itself are all merely tendrils of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and that it thought you were kind of neat, so it decides to turn you into gelato… but only for a moment, as a joke, and then just does a ground hog day on you, as another joke?
You lose.
Based I think?
On a true story, yes.
R’amen
Pascal’s wager: It costs me nothing to believe that Jesus believes in a Yahweist god that supports zionist, roman, and all empires afterwards claiming full divine authority for their genocides. Supporting the church’s favorite tyrants must be the path to gaining everlasting rewards if any exist, because that must be what Jesus meant.
It would be really amusing to learn that what we call a deity, is actually just a higher dimensional being, a child one at that, and we were just a science fair project that didn’t even get a participation trophy.
Would you believe that that is basically an actual plot point / lore detail in Animorphs, if you read all the non mainline series books as well?
Ok I want to know more
https://animorphs.fandom.com/wiki/Ellimist
Before achieving through abnormal circumstance a godlike omnipotence and omnipresence, the Ellimist was originally a Ketran named Toomin. He lived on the Equatorial High Crystal with his friends Inidar, Aguella and Wormer. Toomin could be best described as a “gamer”; he frequently played a life simulation game called Alien Civilizations, very popular among his people, which gave each player an alien species and tasked them with slightly modifying their environmental or evolutionary aspects, so as to cause change over time. The aim of the game was to keep the species alive for as long as possible; if the species became extinct, the player lost.
So, far before the main storyline of Animorphs, the ancient backstory is roughly ‘once there was a race hyperintelligent elf-dwarfish creatures, of whom some played very advanced life simulator / god games, and, following a series of extraordinary events, the last remaining one of their kind basically became an actual god / a dimensionally transcendent being.’
… and, the particular one of these that ended up essentially becoming god, well, he was originally … pretty much a hikkikomori NEET nerd ‘failure to launch’ ‘professional gamer’ kid/adolescent, going by the cultural standards of his species, before it was genocided.
So… its like an ancient alien dork who was really into life simulator / god games just ended up gaining so much knowledge and power that he became able to treat reality itself as one of his games.
Kind of. Sort of. Its more complicated and strange than that.
That’s a lot more than I expected. Thanks! I’ll read more
Animorphs is just actually a really good book series.
Yep, the covers are ludicrous.
But to me, Animorphs is basically on the same level as Redwall, very, very good series of books to give to a kid to entertain them, make em more literate, and also expose them to some pretty serious and ‘big’ ideas and concepts.
A million times better than an iPad.
Also, I guess at this point, they also serve as a pretty good time capsule into 90s/00s culture/lifestyle.
One of the ten commandments is Thou shalt not hold false witness. In other words, do not claim something to be true that you do not actually know to be true.
Everyone who claims God’s existence based on their own faith has thus violated one of the ten commandments.
Ask any self professed Christian (of any denomination) to tell you what the ten commandments are and they won’t have a clue … I know several devout Christians who are able to … but the majority, about 90% of them, wouldn’t have a clue
All I know is that the 2nd Commandment means you can’t take my guns.
I grew up JW but the 10 weren’t really discussed all that much. While they did use scriptures from all over the Bible, the New Testament had the majority of the attention.
