• HalfSalesman@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    If basically any major religion’s god is real, we all lose. They’re all fucking giant assholes.

    I’m not worshiping an asshole… unless its attached to someone hot.

    • reksas@sopuli.xyz
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      unless the religions are gatekeeping the real knowledge behind their dogma and twisting it, so they can gain more secular power.

  • red_tomato@lemmy.world
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    What if God is real, but you believed in the wrong one and God despises incorrect belief more than non-belief?

    You lose.

  • Ftumch@lemmy.today
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    What if after you die you find out the demiurge is real and you failed to achieve gnosis, so you have to go back to the prison that is this reality?

    You lose.

  • Davel23@fedia.io
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    The way I figure it, if God exists he gave me a reasoning mind and provided absolutely no reasonable evidence of his existence. If he has a problem with me drawing the inevitable conclusion from that then fuck 'im.

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      If god is real im going to try and lull him for creating a world with such evil happening to innocent people.

      Any god who creates a place where babies are raped and murdered deserves to die.

      • Rain World: Slugcat Game@lemmy.world
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        the flying spaghetti monster, would like to hastily clarify, that he didn’t mean to, doesn’t know how to fix it, and is honestly freaking out
        uhh, if you have any tips, give them to me, r’amen

    • BillyClark@piefed.social
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      If you look at it from God’s perspective, assuming he exists, you have all of these groups of people who claim to worship him, and the biggest ones all have different holy books, and all of those holy books are flawed. They’re even self-contradictory. I think God would be offended if people thought he was responsible for those piles of trash.

      On the other hand, if God created our cosmos, surely he’d at least approve of people trying to understand it compared to boring people who ignore the world and just chant the same things over and over.

    • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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      This is why I refer to myself as agnostic instead of atheist. I do not see an evidence of God as stated in the Bible, Torah, Koran or such religions. However I cannot prove that a different type of God does not exist. Something - called God - could be responsible for the beginning of everything. I don’t see that God as being too concerned about humans and what they do or don’t do. God and religion are not the same thing. Religions are entirely man made as a societal control mechanisms and abused by leadership greed.

    • Ignotum@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Everything is proof of god!

      If you understand nothing and refuse to explore and learn, that is

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        No see you don’t understand:

        I occasionally hear voices in my head that I decided to attribute to God, and I also see or hear strange patterns sometimes that I decide are God talking to me in extremely specific and unique ways that no one else would understand, therefore, my moderate and likely worsening schizophrenia is proof that God is real.

    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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      Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.

      The argument goes something like this: “I refuse to prove that I exist,” says God, “for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.”

      “But,” says Man, “The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.”

      “Oh dear,” says God, “I hadn’t thought of that,” and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

      “Oh, that was easy,” says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

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    "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

    ― Marcus Aurelius

  • baines@piefed.social
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    2 months ago

    worrying about a christian god compared to human history is like caring about your confederate heritage

  • Tuxman@sh.itjust.works
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    Pascal wager can be so easily thrown back…

    « You better pray for forgiveness to the Christian god before dying… just to be sure! »

    Ok… but what if the Hindus were right all along and I just damned myself?! There’s a whole lot more Hindus… I’m getting better odds by renouncing the Christian god instead

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    “You lose” is such a weird thing to say. It’s implying this is an issue to win or lose on. Instead of you know living a virtuous life. Nope. It’s sides that win or lose.

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      Right? My religion tortures you for not being on our side I rather choose nothing than worship that kind of evil.

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      These pricks get off on seeing others suffer, while proclaiming to covet the virtues of a book they’ve never read.

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    But would either of you lose really. If god was real, and he punished you for not believing in him, is he the good guy or the bad guy. Sounds like the later. Which implies there is another who will reward you for just being a good person in general. So you wouldn’t lose.

    The other option that is more likely if you assume god is omnipotent is that all of the religions are made up by humans. Same with all the rules. A real omnipotent god wouldn’t punish his own creation for doing what he created them to do. So again you don’t lose.

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      A real omnipotent god wouldn’t punish his own creation for doing what he created them to do

      If you ever played a sims or rollercoaster game you know this ain’t true.

  • mycodesucks@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, well…

    MY religion says if you don’t give me $20,000 you’ll spend forever swimming through a pool of glass shards and lemon juice. Better be on the safe side - what if I’m right?

  • torrigan@piefed.social
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    Fuck me, Sam
    What are the odds?
    That of history's endless parade of gods
    That the god you just happened to be taught to believe in
    Is the actual one, and he digs on healing?
    
    • Tim Minchin, “Thank You God”