YellowKey reportedly works in Windows 11, Windows Server 2022 and 2025, but not in Windows 10.

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    7 days ago

    BitLocker is basically malware, so who fucking cares. Far more people have it accidentally on and get locked out than people that have purposefully activated it.

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      You have just reminded me I could use this on the laptop my mother set up like five years ago and immediately forgot the password for.

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        When I worked at an MSP, BitLocker cost companies thousands of dollars when it did something strange. User error has very catastrophic consequences with BitLocker and nobody that actually cares about security uses BitLocker. From my professional experience it is malware. The places where I have seen it used on purpose was because of policy bullshit and everyone agreed that it was a hindrance rather than an advantage.

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          And from my experience in banking, healthcare and others; every company uses bitlocker on workstations, I saw EncFS once in dozens of companies audited.

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            Using encryption on files systems is fine, but the Microslop Bitlocker implementation is awful. In any ecosystem that is not fully regulated BitLocker is a liability. I have had colleagues that could beat it.

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        Companies care that you have access to it. The “companies that care” literally wrote the backdoor.

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    7 days ago

    Finally, some good news. Now I can stop having to interact with my companies shitty outsourced service desk when I need a Bitlocker key.

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      Temu is, as Chinese netizens will tell you, full of items on a lower 4th rung of quality well below what they are used to (at least the urbanites, but I doubt farmers want to buy junk for shit they need to do). That doesn’t mean that a single-board computer you buy off it would be incapable of anything you need to do, just surrounded by stuff advertised in a misleading way to get you to buy more shit.

      Their business itself has customer data well-encrypted, never sends out your email to spammers (I isolate email accounts I would notice). They have never had a single data breach.

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          I manually post on these as well, they currently have only used post scheduling, haven’t set up feeds. It’s nice to hide my own accounts from each other, and if I don’t, then I’m going to forget and people will get mad that the bots are unmarked. Not your problem.

          So, any comment on me pointing out the obvious racism?

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            The post you replied to never said “Chinese”, it said “Temu”. So you saying “Oh yeah Chinese people agree, Temu is garbage” actually proves… that it was a reasonable statement?

            It still could’ve been said from a racist place or with undertones of racism, but it’s not necessarily guaranteed. Temu is garbage. Americans think so. Chinese people apparently think so.

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              How specious. Yes, Temu is trash mixed with treasure, but it’s the exact same garbage you pay a premium for at online or brick-and-mortar retailers, so I find it quite funny when USonians act above it. You don’t have an option for better quality that isn’t as Chinese as possible without getting ripped off, unless you need cameras or the latest graphics cards. Temu encryption is good. American corporate encryption leans very bad. Just watch some cybersecurity conferences. More than racism I’m irritated by people using terminology wrong.

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                Chinese people think Temu is trash and would never use it

                I find it quite funny when USonians act above it

                I’m going to stop talking to you now because wtf are you even on about. No one said anything about not wanting to buy Chinese goods. I specifically buy Chinese goods because at least their billionaires are kept to heel and are doing less to actively fuck over my life than Jeff Bezos.

                Also no one said anything about Temu encryption but you, so again, wtf are you even on about?

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                  Well, I’m happy to stop talking if you’re the type more interested in catfighting than even interpreting the conversation correctly. GreenBottles did in fact start off saying Microsoft is using Temu encryption. If Microsoft was using Temu encryption then their customers would be safe & they would have a record of zero data breaches. I don’t think farmers would buy anything important on Temu, I never said no Chinese person would use it. This is anecdotal from speaking to urbanites who were more interested in high-quality manufacturing for throwing some money around in the markets. Nevermind!

                  I’m glad you buy your Chinese stuff directly instead of through Bezos, but I hope you can see that the kids using Temu synonymously with “dogshit” are being somewhat racist. Since this isn’t based off a comparison with durable good from Amazon or the supermarket. Amazon support just isn’t worth the markup. It’s informed by propaganda spreading through unconventional means such as gore websites plastered with Russian and Chinese industrial accidents or hit-and-runs from the 2000s. Things change, and when that change is accompanied by a meme where a Chinese company is used as an adjective meaning dogshit, I think, well, the advertising firms that these Fortune 500 companies employ would feel quite chickenshit if they got beaten to the punch by natural slang developments. They’d be saying gee, I wish we got them talking like this five years before.

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        They have never reported a data breach.

        Fixed that for you. Same goes for most companies though - the abscense of a publicly known data breach does not mean it hasn’t happened, with or without said company’s knowledge.

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        Suddenly dev resigned and posted bizzare post that read like he was at a gunpoint, recommending bitlocker instead of truecrypt

      • massacre@lemmy.world
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        7 days ago

        It was very likely compromised by NSA requiring a backdoor or weakened encryption that could be cracked by the US. There’s a long story that’s pretty interesting if you want to hit the rabbit hole

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    Anything that isn’t open source can’t be secure. That doesn’t mean that everything open source is secure though.

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      Anything human made is prone to all the errors humans make. At least with Open Source, there are more eyes that can spot mistakes, potentially even provide a fix.

      Sure, that means bad actors can find them too. But closed source doesn’t prevent that: Raising the hurdles may slow them down, but they if they have a financial incentive to keep trying, it won’t stop them as effectively as it stops the type of people who would do a responsible disclosure instead of selling the information.

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    Microslop can’t even claim incompetence. The way this reads, the function is intended as a back door.

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    Why do they call it “drive encryption” when it does not need a user-provided password or other key?

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      TPM microslop magic.

      What’s even funnier is that we already have TCG, ISE, and SE drives that hardware encrypt AES256 by design, so you still get at least an instant delete option if you never bother to set a key.

      Windows wants to double screw you over by never telling you it added a key, and then leaving you dead in the water if your TPM breaks, and then also failing to maintain their own TPM requirements making it completely useless lol.

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    7 days ago

    I contacted my IT support after some suspicious activity - my screen being on middle of the night etc. and they said it was an update that they pushed and the type of update bypassed bitlocker to return to where I was which sounded like BS but they are IT so…

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    YellowKey can be triggered simply by merely copying some files to a USB stick and rebooting to the Windows Recovery Environment. We tested this ourselves, and sure enough, not only does it work, it bears all the hallmarks of a backdoor, down to the exploit’s files disappearing from the USB stick after it’s used once.

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      100% certainty of backdoor. Is bitlocker developed outside of MSFT? Would seem to need MSFT cooperation to implement.

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        Bitlocker was developed entirely inside MSFT. Upon further review, there is a chance that this is all somewhat normal behaviour. Part of MSFT safeOS to make it convenient to recover bitlocker access, and update windows.

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          Normal behaviour?

          -“Well it turns out we just said your data was protected, for your, ehrm, satisfaction?”

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          And be able to easily comply with law enforcement requests for decryption.

          Ergo, the encryption is actually worthless.

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    From their blog:

    Now regarding YellowKey, lots of you are wondering how does one even find such backdoor ?

    I’ll tell you how, it took me more time trying to get it to work than the amount of sleep I had in two years combined. No AI involved, no help in any shape or form. I could have made some insane cash selling this but no amount of money will stand between me and my determination against Microsoft.

    […]

    I can’t wait when I will be allowed to disclose the full story, I think people will find my crashout very reasonable and it definitely won’t be a good look for Microsoft.

    Looking forward to the full story.

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      I could have made some insane cash selling this but no amount of money will stand between me and my determination against Microsoft.

      There is no better motivator than pure anger and spite.

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      Ngl I feel like it’s just going to be “I thought it was backed up but it wasn’t and M$ wouldn’t write me a back door”

      Which is fine as a back story, but also a dime a dozen really.

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        Down voted because you rushed this comment and it’s not really clear what you’re trying to say.