• BigGovernment@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    MTG is absolutely an antisemite and not someone we need to give more airtime too. Don’t care if she’s railing against people I don’t like.

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      She absolutely is, but in this instance she is taking about Israel and she is right.

      There’s that insistence of Israel to equate Israel as the same thing as Jews and then when someone criticizes policies of the country call it anti semitism.

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      2 months ago

      What part of “the California wildfires were started by space lasers controlled by the Jews” was antiemetic? /s (because we’re are living in that kind of timeline)

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        There are a bunch of rich pedophiles with guns pointed at you just out of frame. Play nice for a with the with the crazy antisemite, use her, do not sit there prognosticating on how your farts smell and how much MTG and JK Rowling suck.

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          No, do not

          Because Greene and other right-wing anti-Semites are using you much more than you’re using them.

          They want views, they want attention, they want a left-wing audience, because that gives them more people to recruit and more opportunities to spread their racist, bigoted, generally shitty views.

          And everybody’s attention span is finite. The more space the left gives to Greene, and Carlson, and other right-wing propagandists, the less space is available for actual Palestinians and their advocates to speak. We need to hear from the people most impacted by Israel’s actions, not from racists jumping on the anti-Israel bandwagon because they hate Jews.

          You are not immune to propaganda. Nobody is. So don’t platform right-wing propagandists. KTHX.

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            2 months ago

            Can’t even do something so basic as flipping a useful idiot. The DNC is truely hopeless. Spineless, idealistic children pretending this is a fairytale that will work out if you stick to your ideals, work hard and believe in the power of friendship

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      2 months ago

      The very word anti-semite kind of makes you suspect, Semitic peoples include the Arabs that is truth. So you are like tooled?

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      I agree, but she’s still useful. We shouldn’t just give up that utility because she’s a horrible person. The other side is doing whatever they can to hold on to power, and we need to use whatever we can to stop them. Being too pure is how we let them take power in the first place.

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        2 months ago

        she’s still useful. We shouldn’t just give up that utility because she’s a horrible person.

        Idk, that strategy can definitely backfire. I’m sure significant chunks of the GOP regretted backing the ‘useful idiot’ Trump once he grew too powerful to control. Maybe what we should do with their conspiracy theorists, grifters and propagandists, is starve them of attention?

        Being too pure is how we let them take power in the first place.

        Was it though? Was Biden too pure? Or are you saying that this all comes down to “PC culture”?

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          Maybe what we should do with their conspiracy theorists, grifters and propagandists, is starve them of attention?

          That is not something we can control. That’s in them, not us.

          Was it though? Was Biden too pure? Or are you saying that this all comes down to “PC culture”?

          He was too “safe” for sure. The left rarely is willing to get it’s hands dirty. The right always is. They will use anything when it’s useful to them, no matter how dirty it may be. If there’s a tool that’s useful to us, we need to be willing to pick it up.

          Now, this all should be couched in language like “if the crazy space lazer lady understood this, you should be able to.” It should always be reminding them she’s insane, just that they must be too if she’s this far ahead of them.

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          Never mind the GOP. Hillary fucking Clinton spent millions of dollars promoting Trump in the run up to the 2016 election, because she wanted to make the Republicans look more radical and dangerous, and Trump was the most radical, dangerous candidate in the race.

          Thanks, Hillary. Good call.

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            2 months ago

            I guess you’re referring to this?

            Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign (Wikipedia):

            In a review of Clinton’s 32 general election TV ads, the Associated Press found that 24 of those ads show or mention Trump. The majority of those 24 ads feature raw footage of him rather than others opining on his words and actions.

            Interestingly, the title of the mentioned AP article is “Clinton’s ‘nasty’ Trump ads are mostly his own words” - it doesn’t criticize the campaign’s choice at all.

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          2 months ago

          I really fear this angle. “we can use her” will effectively sane-wash this person and make her seem more reasonable to the less informed voters. I don’t want a MTG presidency.

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        Useful how? Harris was wrong to spend so many resources trying to attract Republicans that she thought could be swayed away from Trump. She converted very few voters, and lost a lot of voters on the left. Why should we repeat that same mistake?

        Using MTG aligns you with an antisemite, and if it attracts anyone to your cause, it will be more antisemites.