• eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The fact that you’re pointing out, Marjorie, is not an anti-Semitic conspiracy.

    That doesn’t mean all your other anti-semitic conspiracies are true though.

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    Yeah well Marjorie, choose. Left or right, bullshit or reason & truth

    Stop flip flopping, it’s unnerving

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    Don’t forget Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush, very normal of her to leave out the black people she could have solidarity with.

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    AIPAC is not a foreign lobby, they cannot accept foreign money. Congressional seats cannot be ‘bought’, but the election can be influenced by spending money on advertising.

    In short, MTG was, is and probably always will be an antisemite

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      Even if this were technically correct, it would be disingenuous.

      PAC spending is directly correlated to congressional election outcomes. Being pedantic about the word ‘bought’ doesn’t hold up either, this is an accepted use of the word.

      If the PAC is operating under the support or guidance of a foreign entity, it is a foreign lobby. The origin of the dollar is irrelevant.

      But, yes. MTG was, is, and probably always will be an anti-semite.

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        So if a bank have two offices one in the US and one in Israel, and the Israeli government put money in the Israeli branch, and the bank branch in the US decided to donate the same amount to AIPAC, would that still be considered “domestic fundings”

        Pretending like there are no way AIPAC is getting money from Israel is a pathetic attempts to ignore the reality they bought two seats with the sole purpose of giving Israel more money.

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    I still don’t understand how saying Benjamin Mileikowsky is committing a genocide against the semitic people who have lived there for thousands of years is antisemitic…

    Dude speaks Hebrew and changed his last name to Netenyahu, that doesn’t change his DNA.

    He’s a Polish guy committing genocide, saying that is in no way antisemitism.

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      Dude speaks Hebrew and changed his last name to Netenyahu [sic]

      Point of order: Benjamin Netanyahu was born “Benjamin Netanyahu” in Tel Aviv in 1949. His father, Benzion (born 1910), changed his surname from Mileikowsky after migrating to Mandatory Palestine in the 1920s from Warsaw. Never at any point was Benzion’s son “Benjamin Mileikowsky”.

      If you’re going to make this into an argument, at least bother to get basic facts right.

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        Benzion

        Lmao, couldn’t have picked a more “European guy rolling a Jewish character” name (I know he was already Jewish, yet it still smacks of European exoticization. I don’t know what the word is for “Middle-eastifying”, if there is one). Add him to the party with Johnchrist and Alimuhammed.

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          Ol’ Benzion was born in 1910, when an Israeli state wasn’t even on the distant horizon, or much more than an imaginary “Promised Land” told of in the Old Testament, in a time when European Jews had spent centuries being persecuted from the Russian Empire to the UK, and were still being bounced from pillar to post with a lot of pogroms in between. Some got lucky, like the Rothschilds, but a lot more did not. Many were just killed for being Jewish. Many more were thrown out of cities and towns on the whim of racists.

          That was the reality for European Jews in 1910. Benzion’s parents simply named him after their own dream, at a time when that dream was as far off to them as waking up on the moon would have been. It would have been a way to keep a symbol of something they longed for – security and safety – in their environment in a time when there was precious little of that for them and their kind. Also, I don’t know if you’ve seen some of those old-timey names yourself, Zebedee, but Benzion is infinitely better than some others I’ve heard.

          I’m not Jewish and never have been, but even this goy knows that much about their history. Laugh your ass off all you want, but there’s more to the story.

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          I’m going to ask you to politely and with an open mind reread what you just quoted with the knowledge that Nathan Mileikowsky is Benjamin Netanyahu’s paternal grandfather and that Benzion Netanyahu (né Mileikowsky) is Benjamin Netanyahu’s father.

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    Its also not hard to appear sensible when your subject is frothing at the mouth while committing genocide.

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      You said that, what about your/our supposed political champion president biden? How is he on the genocide?

      Or any of the fucking rest of them but the very few exceptions even guys I thought I liked like what’s his name from Oregon Ron Wyden turns out he’s a piece of shit too.

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          Oh Come now, this is not my first day on the internet. Half of everybody pretends like the Democrats are doing a good job cuz they think that’s the way to win.

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            Even when Biden was in power, no one liked Biden. He was the compromise Blue Dogs forced on us because the idea of someone who might actually try to do something productive for a change instead of talking in circles chilled them to the very bone.

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            It certainly seems like it’s your first day on the internet, or more like you’re really fucking dumb and very much nitpick your views of what is said online to fit your agenda. I have never seen a generally agreed “the dems are doing good” view online, it’s all about them just being the lesser evil. Biden was only voted on to not have the absolute shit stain that trump is as president.

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            Half of everybody? Which half? Is it a top half vs bottom half thing, or a left half vs right half thing? Ooo, or front half vs back half! Actually I think you’re right, my ass is a shitlib! Thank god my face is a commie so it balances out.

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        Do the two of you have some sort of longstanding beef, or are you just making a wild assumption about this commenter…?

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        Biden was forced down our throats, after stealing the nom from Bernie for the 2nd election in a row.

        A Bernie presidency would have had nothing to do with genocide. He would have guaranteed Trump got routed from politics before he had a chance to fill the swamp, had Bernie not been screwed by Hillary in 2016.

        Our champion was never allowed to lift off, because the Dems wouldn’t let him. Many of those Dems are proud AIPAC shills, so let that sink in.

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    I can’t believe I’m saying this, but MTG could’ve prevented half of that by not resigning.

    Also, one wonders if she’s going to put her money where her mouth is and campaign for Shawn Harris (the Democrat running against Fuller).

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      From what I’ve heard her district is so deep red campaigning for the Democrat means nothing. Which is why she resigned when she started getting death threats, this is deep red deep deep red country. No fucking chance of a Democrat getting elected, not these fucking Democrats.

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          Georgia is an interesting place, one County can be nice and you go to the next County over and they’re Nazis. Did you know that prohibition never ended in some places in the south and that includes a lot of places in Georgia probably Marjorie Taylor Green’s District I bet they don’t sell liquor in the county. Fucking cunts.

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        Marjorie Taylor Greenwood would be a huge improvement over a lot of senators we could have from Georgia.

        I mean I prefer Warnock and I don’t remember the other one but it could be a lot worse.

        Georgia is fixing their elections though in case you didn’t realize that.

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    The antisemites are adopting the language and style of the anti-Zionist left to sane-wash their delusional beliefs. Don’t fall for it.

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    MTG is absolutely an antisemite and not someone we need to give more airtime too. Don’t care if she’s railing against people I don’t like.

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      What part of “the California wildfires were started by space lasers controlled by the Jews” was antiemetic? /s (because we’re are living in that kind of timeline)

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      The very word anti-semite kind of makes you suspect, Semitic peoples include the Arabs that is truth. So you are like tooled?

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      I agree, but she’s still useful. We shouldn’t just give up that utility because she’s a horrible person. The other side is doing whatever they can to hold on to power, and we need to use whatever we can to stop them. Being too pure is how we let them take power in the first place.

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        Useful how? Harris was wrong to spend so many resources trying to attract Republicans that she thought could be swayed away from Trump. She converted very few voters, and lost a lot of voters on the left. Why should we repeat that same mistake?

        Using MTG aligns you with an antisemite, and if it attracts anyone to your cause, it will be more antisemites.

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        she’s still useful. We shouldn’t just give up that utility because she’s a horrible person.

        Idk, that strategy can definitely backfire. I’m sure significant chunks of the GOP regretted backing the ‘useful idiot’ Trump once he grew too powerful to control. Maybe what we should do with their conspiracy theorists, grifters and propagandists, is starve them of attention?

        Being too pure is how we let them take power in the first place.

        Was it though? Was Biden too pure? Or are you saying that this all comes down to “PC culture”?

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          Maybe what we should do with their conspiracy theorists, grifters and propagandists, is starve them of attention?

          That is not something we can control. That’s in them, not us.

          Was it though? Was Biden too pure? Or are you saying that this all comes down to “PC culture”?

          He was too “safe” for sure. The left rarely is willing to get it’s hands dirty. The right always is. They will use anything when it’s useful to them, no matter how dirty it may be. If there’s a tool that’s useful to us, we need to be willing to pick it up.

          Now, this all should be couched in language like “if the crazy space lazer lady understood this, you should be able to.” It should always be reminding them she’s insane, just that they must be too if she’s this far ahead of them.

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          Never mind the GOP. Hillary fucking Clinton spent millions of dollars promoting Trump in the run up to the 2016 election, because she wanted to make the Republicans look more radical and dangerous, and Trump was the most radical, dangerous candidate in the race.

          Thanks, Hillary. Good call.

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            I guess you’re referring to this?

            Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign (Wikipedia):

            In a review of Clinton’s 32 general election TV ads, the Associated Press found that 24 of those ads show or mention Trump. The majority of those 24 ads feature raw footage of him rather than others opining on his words and actions.

            Interestingly, the title of the mentioned AP article is “Clinton’s ‘nasty’ Trump ads are mostly his own words” - it doesn’t criticize the campaign’s choice at all.

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          I really fear this angle. “we can use her” will effectively sane-wash this person and make her seem more reasonable to the less informed voters. I don’t want a MTG presidency.

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        There are a bunch of rich pedophiles with guns pointed at you just out of frame. Play nice for a with the with the crazy antisemite, use her, do not sit there prognosticating on how your farts smell and how much MTG and JK Rowling suck.

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          No, do not

          Because Greene and other right-wing anti-Semites are using you much more than you’re using them.

          They want views, they want attention, they want a left-wing audience, because that gives them more people to recruit and more opportunities to spread their racist, bigoted, generally shitty views.

          And everybody’s attention span is finite. The more space the left gives to Greene, and Carlson, and other right-wing propagandists, the less space is available for actual Palestinians and their advocates to speak. We need to hear from the people most impacted by Israel’s actions, not from racists jumping on the anti-Israel bandwagon because they hate Jews.

          You are not immune to propaganda. Nobody is. So don’t platform right-wing propagandists. KTHX.

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            Can’t even do something so basic as flipping a useful idiot. The DNC is truely hopeless. Spineless, idealistic children pretending this is a fairytale that will work out if you stick to your ideals, work hard and believe in the power of friendship

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      She absolutely is, but in this instance she is taking about Israel and she is right.

      There’s that insistence of Israel to equate Israel as the same thing as Jews and then when someone criticizes policies of the country call it anti semitism.

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    I have to wonder if she would say the same thing about any other organizations donating large sums of money to candidates. The issue is more broad than just pro-Israel groups.

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      Equivocating

      Are those groups also bribing politicians to put a foreign nation’s interests before America’s to then vote on giving that foreign nation free money and planes and arms and weapons of mass destruction when they know they are going to use them to deliberately target little babies and children

      Fucking hell

      GIVE YOUR FUCKING HEAD A FUCKING WOBBLE

      Israel needs to be put right back in it’s fucking box

      If a few American Zionists are upset by that fuck em, FUCK THEM

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        Equivocating

        Are those groups also bribing politicians to put a foreign nation’s interests before America’s to then vote on giving that foreign nation free money and planes and arms and weapons of mass destruction when they know they are going to use them to deliberately target little babies and children

        Fucking hell

        GIVE YOUR FUCKING HEAD A FUCKING WOBBLE

        Israel needs to be put right back in it’s fucking box

        If a few American Zionists are upset by that fuck em, FUCK THEM

        Ok

        To equivocate means to deliberately use vague, ambiguous, or misleading language to conceal the truth or avoid committing to a definitive stance.

        Not sure where I did that.

        I simply pondered if MTG would denounce all forms of large organizations “donating” money to advance their own personal interests over the interests of others. Is she against Facebook lobbying congress with large sums of money to help influence law makers into making decisions that benefit Facebook? Or does she not really care about the issue and only cares about Israel doing it? She has shown her feelings about Israel in the past and they aren’t good.

        Please note that I have not said one word regarding my views on Israel whatsoever. And I have not said one word about my views on Israel’s actions. Hell my post has nothing to do with Israel, besides it being mentioned in MTG’s post. My post is about MTG and speculating about her intentions behind the post.

        Now in case you still feel I am “equivocating” here, I’ll help clear this up. I am against what Israel has done since Hamas attacked them. Israel (the country) has gone too far in its response and performed crimes against humanity. Those in power who made the decisions that have been made need to arrested, charged, and prosecuted for their crimes. I am against the US providing Israel with weapons that are used to kill and maim innocent people. I find the actions Israel has taken to be disgusting, inhumane, and reprehensible. I know a nation has a right to defend itself, but what Israel has done is well beyond defending itself.

        That doesn’t change my thoughts on MTG and this post of her’s though. She’s an opportunistic politician who will use whatever issue is at hand to push her own opinions on others. If it fits her narrative she will jump on it, but if something similar occurs and she is not against it she will keep her mouth shut about it. I am not saying she is wrong in this post, I am just reminding everyone of who she is and to take anything she says or does within that context.

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    My guess is she handled all her own social media stuff and her innate stupidity worked well with conservatives and then she reached a breaking point where it stopped working as well and now she has aides posting for her.

    You don’t go from Jewish space lasers and harrassing school shooting survivors to posting things that generally make sense. Her troglodyte brain can’t make that change on its own.

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    If the Rightwing was in any way form or shape genuine, they would’ve long been calling Traitor any elected representative in their nation which openly represented a different nation.

    In countries like the US and the UK the Traitor ball is right there, in the open, ready to score for any Nationalist or even Patriot politician and has been there for more than a decade.

    It shows just how many of the flag-shaggers are in fact frauds (many Traitors themselves) rather than Nationalists or Patriots that they refuse to score such an obvious open.