Along with how to destroy an entire’s country economy, quality of life and democracy.
I don’t think either that Cuba represent any kind of threat to the US, but for a really different reason than you. You can’t defend Baphomet just to fight Lucifer, because both are two pieces of shit.
And how do I lnow this? Because I personally know Cubans, and my country is going in the same direction (and is more or less the same: Venezuela).
LOL. Sure. Cuba, the country with better life expectancy and maternal mortality rates than the US, the country that developed a COVID vaccine as fast as the US did without spending billions on graft to big pharma. Yeah, it’s satanic.
I personally know Cubans too. The ones that hate Cuba were having a grand old time working for American organized crime and are very upset they can’t be rich and racist in Vacationland.
You realize the rest of the world has been able to freely travel to Cuba and come back safe and sound since the 60s, right? Like…
We have been suffering the 42 years I’ve been alive […] It’s the kind of hell you risk anything to escape!
??? How the fuck do 4.7 million people visit/year on cruise ships and air planes if Cuba is suffering? I know many Canadian-Cubans that visit family and have families that visit Canada no problem.
Americans believe so much bullshit propaganda about our country
That’s a rather weak argument. Rich people travel to plenty of dangerous places. Those places typically then develop high class resorts with security to attend to them
Don’t mistake my comment to be saying the US is right about Cuba. It absolutely isn’t. I just don’t think “people travel there” is much of an indicator of anything
It’s not just in-bound tourism, I probably made the mistake of emphasizing the cruises. Notice I said that Cubans from outside of America were able to travel to visit family, and vice-versa. If it was such a hellscape, why would people choose to travel back to Cuba after leaving?
If it was not a hellscape why would Cubans still be leaving to declare asylum elsewhere?
Both that claim and your claim are verifiable and true. So clearly there’s something going on that’s not as simple as “is this country a good or bad place to live”. The answer seems to be it depends. Clearly there is some kind of wealth disparity within the country.
Some would argue these immigrants were the formally wealthy class fleeing the revolution, and that was initially true. But that was just over 60 years ago now. This doesn’t explain modern asylum seekers very well.
To be fair I think a lot of Cuba’s struggles and failures are a direct result of decades of US embargo and interference.
In fact; is committing a fallacy of intransitivity, that’s a type of non sequitur fallacy.
And that’s how it is in Cuba and in my country too, and that’s why I’m able to believe that about Cuba in the first place.
The Cuban and Venezuelan governments are the same: the vast majority of the population is below the global thresholds of extreme poverty, in a very precarious situation, where basic services do not work most of the time (in my country we are privileged compared to Cuba; here at least water can reach us from time to time, even if it takes a long time [normally more than a month; although the duty is that it is always present], and the electricity is cut off 8 hours a day [at least that is how it is in the state] where alive], but there is almost no drinking water service and the normal thing is that there is no electricity; they can be without electricity service for more than 18 hours); but obviously they are not going to demonstrate that just as in Brazil they are not going to show you the Favelas, they directly create tourist areas that are a bubble isolated from the reality of the country. It is simply a political ploy to pretend that everything is fine, a facade.
So what you’re really saying is that Cuba’s being economically propped up by the thick rope of tourism, without which it would quickly collapse, right?
Along with how to destroy an entire’s country economy, quality of life and democracy. I don’t think either that Cuba represent any kind of threat to the US, but for a really different reason than you. You can’t defend Baphomet just to fight Lucifer, because both are two pieces of shit. And how do I lnow this? Because I personally know Cubans, and my country is going in the same direction (and is more or less the same: Venezuela).
LOL. Sure. Cuba, the country with better life expectancy and maternal mortality rates than the US, the country that developed a COVID vaccine as fast as the US did without spending billions on graft to big pharma. Yeah, it’s satanic.
I personally know Cubans too. The ones that hate Cuba were having a grand old time working for American organized crime and are very upset they can’t be rich and racist in Vacationland.
Fuck off, gusano
The revolution there was always too centralized, turning to shit was inevitable.
Aight. I don’t think that they really understand Marx or Engels or socialism and communism at all.
You personally know gusanos who are still butt-hurt over their comprador parents losing their plantations.
I for one will not stand for this Baphomet slander.
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You realize the rest of the world has been able to freely travel to Cuba and come back safe and sound since the 60s, right? Like…
??? How the fuck do 4.7 million people visit/year on cruise ships and air planes if Cuba is suffering? I know many Canadian-Cubans that visit family and have families that visit Canada no problem.
Yeah, and you’re literally one of them lmao
That’s a rather weak argument. Rich people travel to plenty of dangerous places. Those places typically then develop high class resorts with security to attend to them
Don’t mistake my comment to be saying the US is right about Cuba. It absolutely isn’t. I just don’t think “people travel there” is much of an indicator of anything
It’s not just in-bound tourism, I probably made the mistake of emphasizing the cruises. Notice I said that Cubans from outside of America were able to travel to visit family, and vice-versa. If it was such a hellscape, why would people choose to travel back to Cuba after leaving?
If it was not a hellscape why would Cubans still be leaving to declare asylum elsewhere?
Both that claim and your claim are verifiable and true. So clearly there’s something going on that’s not as simple as “is this country a good or bad place to live”. The answer seems to be it depends. Clearly there is some kind of wealth disparity within the country.
Some would argue these immigrants were the formally wealthy class fleeing the revolution, and that was initially true. But that was just over 60 years ago now. This doesn’t explain modern asylum seekers very well.
To be fair I think a lot of Cuba’s struggles and failures are a direct result of decades of US embargo and interference.
In fact; is committing a fallacy of intransitivity, that’s a type of non sequitur fallacy.
And that’s how it is in Cuba and in my country too, and that’s why I’m able to believe that about Cuba in the first place.
The Cuban and Venezuelan governments are the same: the vast majority of the population is below the global thresholds of extreme poverty, in a very precarious situation, where basic services do not work most of the time (in my country we are privileged compared to Cuba; here at least water can reach us from time to time, even if it takes a long time [normally more than a month; although the duty is that it is always present], and the electricity is cut off 8 hours a day [at least that is how it is in the state] where alive], but there is almost no drinking water service and the normal thing is that there is no electricity; they can be without electricity service for more than 18 hours); but obviously they are not going to demonstrate that just as in Brazil they are not going to show you the Favelas, they directly create tourist areas that are a bubble isolated from the reality of the country. It is simply a political ploy to pretend that everything is fine, a facade.
So what you’re really saying is that Cuba’s being economically propped up by the thick rope of tourism, without which it would quickly collapse, right?
Love how you ignored this part and focused on whatever was beneficial for propping up your worldview
It’s almost like the US sanctioning them (and whoever else plays along with that) is what is causing the problems. Maybe.
Is that hell caused by the Cuban government or the American sanctions?
It’s probably both, but from my perspective as an outsider, the American sanctions seem to be doing a lot more damage.
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Exactly.