U.S. President Donald Trump said in a social media post this morning that “a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again,” as his threatened attacks on Iranian infrastructure loom ahead of an 8 p.m. ET deadline.

Iran has rejected a 45-day ceasefire proposal and says it wants a permanent end to the war.

UN Secretary General António Guterres warned the U.S. that attacking civilian infrastructure is banned under international law.

The death toll so far includes more than 1,900 people in Iran, 1,400 in Lebanon, 23 in Israel, about two dozen in other countries in the region, 13 U.S. service members and 11 Israeli soldiers.


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https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116363336033995961

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    Am I the only one wondering how the fuck a president has all this power? I thought USA was a democracy, not a fucking dictatorship. Who has voted for all these wars? And if it’s this easy to just get around an approval, shouldn’t this be your main agenda for coming elections in the future, because your entire system rewards a guy like Trump for doing whatever he wants.

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      If either party actually disagreed on principle, we would have heard someone criticize the war on principle and not on breaking procedural norms or not planning the war well enough. Virtually every critique I have seen from elected officials, at least before this explicitly genocidal statement here, is some form of those two. “This war was poorly planned” is only a sidenote observation from someone actually opposed to a war of aggression. It’s the most milquetoast opposition you can give to claim you were always against it when things go wrong. No way in hell am I going to accept that they were powerless to stop him when no one will even clearly lay out the actual reasons why this is wrong.

      We know that actions speak louder than words, but if we want to give anyone else in our government the benefit of the doubt we’re gonna have to figure out what comes next after words.

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    I’m hoping if he gives the order to demolish Tehran, or worse, nuke them, enough people refuse to do it.

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    This is a pretty straightforward declaration of genocidal intent. If the Americans bomb civilian infrastructure, there is a credible case for accusing them of Genocide in the Hague.

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    That’s just such an Epstein files thing to say. How can a President Epstein files those words and expect the world not to Epstein files in revulsion. To be brutally Epstein files he seems a little desperate. These are not the words of a sane Epstein files.

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      11 hours ago

      You do understand that evil people can do multiple evil things for multiple independent evil reasons, don’t you? This “everything is a distraction from Epstein” is cringe.

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        You know… you’re right. I should be more Epstein files about it. You can’t reduce a complex Epstein Files likes this to just one Epstein files.

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    14 hours ago

    Can you even imagine what Harris would have done?! Whew we really dodged a nuke.

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    He’s gonna nuke Tehran isn’t he?

    Who could’ve guessed that eschewing the US’s soft power they built up over decades for Russian style “might makes right” posturing and sabre rattling would not work? Trump is really speedrunning to “Chinese ultimatums” with this fiasco.

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      11 hours ago

      Killing millions of innocent Iranians in a nuclear strike is a quick-fire way to turn the entire world against you. I sincerely hope this is a TACO situation and not Donald truly losing the plot.

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      Yeah this is the whole problem with the ‘madman’ strategy, when applied to nuclear armed states.

      Its … arguably much worse when the person employing the madman strategy… is literally a demented madman with a cult of personality atound him.

      Hope you got your pip boy in working order.

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        Intrusive thought of the day:

        Simulations suggest that evenly a relatively modest India/Pakistan exchange (by the standards of a full nuclear exchange between Russia and the US) would produce enough dust and soot into the air to seriously affect the climate of the planet.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter#Recent_modeling

        But that also implies nuclear winter exists on a scale. Even one H-bomb will have some affect. In principle, it would be possible to determine the precise level of nuclear winter required to combat global warming. Then, if the target country doesn’t have nukes of their own to retaliate with, a nuclear power could drop just enough nukes to cause just enough nuclear winter to cancel out global warming. As long as they’re the only one releasing any nukes, they could precisely control the scale of the resulting nuclear winter effect. Literally designing an act of mass genocide as a means of combating climate change.

        :/

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          It is kind of darkly hilarious that concievably, some specific amount of nuclear warfare would theoretically cancel out at least some processes that are currently already running away in global warming.

          The… problem of course is that no one knows the specifics of this with any degree of certainty… and if you do not know the specifics, well the potential downsides are essentially infinite.

          But, if you have the brain of a religious extremist, or malignant narcissist… well, nuance doesn’t compute so well for these people, but they are also, somewhat paradoxically, uncommonly good at asserting their own will and power.

          In summary… if God is real, they’re a trickster God.

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            Yeah, and I think that anyone knowledgeable enough to model nuclear winter accurately would refuse to participate in that kind of military planning. If you go to a climate researcher, put a gun to their head and said, “help us calculate just the amount of nuked cities needed to cancel out the temperature increases of climate change or we’ll shoot you,” I think most would just say, “fine. Do it.”

            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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              You’d be broadly wrong about your assumption, plenty of extremely bright people have historically, and are currently, working in or for the military industrial complex.

              … Literally everyone involved in the Manhattan Project, Werner Von Braun, Mengele, just off the top of my head.

              Facebook got its massive grant that kickstarted it… on the same day that the CIA/NSA discontinued a major planned project to develop digital espionage capabilities.

              The internet itself was born out of ARPA/DARPA research grants.

              I have a cousin with an engineering degree, used to work for probably Skunkworks, he did have to move to roughly the area that Skunkworks has facilities, his speciality was ceramics, things that can go get really hot without breaking, he joked when he said he’d have to kill me if he answered ‘were you working on the sr-72?’

              He couldn’t answer that, but he did say he quit because of the racist and toxic political environment… he went on to work for BlueOrigin…

              …you know yeah cool spaceflight, but also, Amazon is a military industrial complex member as well, their servers currently run comms and likely AI assisted kill chain target analysis/delineation, which is probably a good part of why Iran is blowing up regional Amazon data centers.

              Bezos is very much personally in bed with Trump.

              Nah.

              Plenty of bright people will work for evil entities, often without too much coaxing.

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    If this shit was in an apocalypse movie people would complain about it being unrealistic.

    No way a US president would say that!
    Really? via a social media post? did they run out of budget for actors? “Praise be to allah”? did the writers forget which side he’s on?

    If he hadn’t TACO’d before this would be terrifying. not to say it’s not horrible still