you keep trying this “lesser of two evils” “lets court the middle” “strategy” and it never works. When will you learn this. Your strategy wont win future election, its practically designed to lose. The last time you tried you eroded the base in every measurable demographic except 1, did you even notice that? EVERYONE in the dems hates this approach.
Did you vote “uncommitted” in the primary to show your party that supporting War Crimes was not a negotiable to you? I did.
I suppose you went with voting Biden-- despite his ill health-- signalling you’d sacrifice literally everything to do what you’re told (become a party to the DNC sellout of all of our votes, and become utterly owned by foreign genocidal fascist theocrats) and then you lost anyway after you whored yourself to them with some failed lesser evil strategizing that sounded smart to you at the time. How did that pan out, did you win? Was your strategizing validated? Did you get the dems to support what you feel is important to our society? Maybe I’m wrong and yours was the path to winning?
We’ve all done this same conversation before right-- Heres the part where you try to “blame” me for the fact that you sold out and got nothing, and then I tell you that I owe you nothing, that you disgust me, that I dont care about your complaints, and that we’ll do this again for every election from now on until you REALLY understand that lesser evilism + pivot rightward for votes strategy will never win. By that time my strategy of accelerationism will have kicked in-- those destroyers of our civilization do work fast! and we’ll go hunting fascists together. We’ll get along fine then. Looking fwd to it.
You and I both want the same things, but we disagree on the path to getting them.
I told you supporting war crimes was non-negotiable and not for sale, so use your noggin and do the math, who did I vote for? And who will I vote for going forward? This isnt complicated. It never was, and it never will be.
You talk of basic IQ tests, lets see if you have basic reading comprehension. Go ahead, the information is all there already.
They made a South park episode about your way of thinking, the election of Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwhich.
Exact mirror of this conversation-- Season 8 episode 8. In that episode you are played by Cartman.
You failed the basic IQ test. It’s ok, a lot of americans did too. Your country is stupid, has been for a while, there’s nothing new here.
This is why you guys have Trump today. This is why basic human rights are violated every day today in your country.
But hey, at least the genocide stopped, right? … RIGHT?
Oh wait no, it didn’t. Shit got worse actually. Like anyone with half a functional braincell would have successfully predicted.
It wasn’t picking between two of the same. It was picking between milquetoast status quo, and a clearly worse pick. It was picking between a plate bland gray sludge that looked terrible, and a bowl of smelly diarhea collected from a sick animal. You decided you were too good for the grey sludge because it had grits in them and you hate grits. Congratulations, enjoy your bowl of diarrhea.
I hope none of your family members or the people you call friends are LGBT, look too mexican, or require healthcare, now or in the future. These are the people you chose to sacrifice from the top of your moral high horse, because your little single issue voter braincell wasn’t able to pass the basic IQ test. Real people are miserable today, because of people like you.
You are part of the problem. We do not want the same things. Do better. Use your brain.
I want universal basic human rights without selling our souls to get it, and basic democracy where someone in a party cares a tiny bit about us. You say you dont want that, and by the pattern of your comments, you’re right-- maybe we dont want the same things.
edit: ahh. You are coming from blahaj.zone. I have met many of you lot and you all have the same opinion-- you want yours and eff everyone else. You dont care what happens to others as long as YOUR rights are respected. Well bud, if you cant stand for anyone else, why should anyone anywhere stand up for you? ever think about that? Maybe if you took the time to stand for whats right – and you know exactly what that is-- you’d win.
You won’t get through to people like them. Unless a candidate is sparkly perfect in exactly the ways they want, they can’t be held responsible for what that candidate may do and accept what’s obviously going to happen given past events.
I don’t want to engage this early as I just woke up; I think a lot of poeple arguing your type of way are paid agents to help corrode western democracy
But
Your side seems to omit the fact that the democrats were fighting a systematic takeover of the media to brainwash as many not-as-politically-engaged people as possible. A take over the likes of the US have never seen before and it’s culmination happening with Trump. A campaign to fully take over the US which worked wonders for them.
The tan suit and spicy mustard debacle actually riled people up because certain media was running it constantly. Media that was brainwashing millions to hate democrats for every and any little things. Media that planted the idea that thinking like a democrat was any harsh word you didnt want to be associated with.
So although the lesser of two evils plan was still in effect, the (wayyy) lesser evil wasn’t literally the hate mongering messiah put in place by a decades long plan to overtake the media at its literal peak of execution
a systematic takeover of the media to brainwash as many not-as-politically-engaged people as possible. A take over the likes of the US have never seen before
Is this your first encounter with politics or something? There’s no way you actually think this is the first time America of all places has used the media to radicalise its populace.
Yeah yeah, Trump is special an unique and the world has never seen anything like him before, except like… Nearly every single previous US president. So once again - are you new to American politics, or is your head stuffed so far up your arse you genuinely think any part of this is new or different?
So I’m convinced people like you are out here to waste people’s time and energy on comment wars instead of putting that time into doing something actually productive so I’m just going to cut if off here and go help people IRL
you keep trying this “lesser of two evils” “lets court the middle” “strategy” and it never works. When will you learn this. Your strategy wont win future election, its practically designed to lose. The last time you tried you eroded the base in every measurable demographic except 1, did you even notice that? EVERYONE in the dems hates this approach.
Did you vote for Harris?
Did you vote “uncommitted” in the primary to show your party that supporting War Crimes was not a negotiable to you? I did.
I suppose you went with voting Biden-- despite his ill health-- signalling you’d sacrifice literally everything to do what you’re told (become a party to the DNC sellout of all of our votes, and become utterly owned by foreign genocidal fascist theocrats) and then you lost anyway after you whored yourself to them with some failed lesser evil strategizing that sounded smart to you at the time. How did that pan out, did you win? Was your strategizing validated? Did you get the dems to support what you feel is important to our society? Maybe I’m wrong and yours was the path to winning?
We’ve all done this same conversation before right-- Heres the part where you try to “blame” me for the fact that you sold out and got nothing, and then I tell you that I owe you nothing, that you disgust me, that I dont care about your complaints, and that we’ll do this again for every election from now on until you REALLY understand that lesser evilism + pivot rightward for votes strategy will never win. By that time my strategy of accelerationism will have kicked in-- those destroyers of our civilization do work fast! and we’ll go hunting fascists together. We’ll get along fine then. Looking fwd to it.
You and I both want the same things, but we disagree on the path to getting them.
What primary?
exactly. But in case you are not kidding, this primary:
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/06/1236295096/super-tuesday-results-uncommitted-biden-gaza-israel
that’s a lot of words that, ultimately, didn’t answer the damn question.
In 2024, Americans were presented with a basic IQ test. Who did you vote for?
I told you supporting war crimes was non-negotiable and not for sale, so use your noggin and do the math, who did I vote for? And who will I vote for going forward? This isnt complicated. It never was, and it never will be.
You talk of basic IQ tests, lets see if you have basic reading comprehension. Go ahead, the information is all there already.
Ok, so clearly you failed the test.
Did you get what you wanted out of this? Has the genocide been stopped? That one issue that prevented you from using the rest of your braincells?
I can straight up tell you right there right now, we are not the same. We don’t want the same things. Not even remotely close.
I share nothing in common with stupid people who looked at Trump, looked at Harris, and thought “wow, i’d rather have Trump.”
They made a South park episode about your way of thinking, the election of Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwhich. Exact mirror of this conversation-- Season 8 episode 8. In that episode you are played by Cartman.
I don’t care what some random ass cartoon did.
You failed the basic IQ test. It’s ok, a lot of americans did too. Your country is stupid, has been for a while, there’s nothing new here.
This is why you guys have Trump today. This is why basic human rights are violated every day today in your country.
But hey, at least the genocide stopped, right? … RIGHT?
Oh wait no, it didn’t. Shit got worse actually. Like anyone with half a functional braincell would have successfully predicted.
It wasn’t picking between two of the same. It was picking between milquetoast status quo, and a clearly worse pick. It was picking between a plate bland gray sludge that looked terrible, and a bowl of smelly diarhea collected from a sick animal. You decided you were too good for the grey sludge because it had grits in them and you hate grits. Congratulations, enjoy your bowl of diarrhea.
I hope none of your family members or the people you call friends are LGBT, look too mexican, or require healthcare, now or in the future. These are the people you chose to sacrifice from the top of your moral high horse, because your little single issue voter braincell wasn’t able to pass the basic IQ test. Real people are miserable today, because of people like you.
You are part of the problem. We do not want the same things. Do better. Use your brain.
I want universal basic human rights without selling our souls to get it, and basic democracy where someone in a party cares a tiny bit about us. You say you dont want that, and by the pattern of your comments, you’re right-- maybe we dont want the same things.
edit: ahh. You are coming from blahaj.zone. I have met many of you lot and you all have the same opinion-- you want yours and eff everyone else. You dont care what happens to others as long as YOUR rights are respected. Well bud, if you cant stand for anyone else, why should anyone anywhere stand up for you? ever think about that? Maybe if you took the time to stand for whats right – and you know exactly what that is-- you’d win.
You won’t get through to people like them. Unless a candidate is sparkly perfect in exactly the ways they want, they can’t be held responsible for what that candidate may do and accept what’s obviously going to happen given past events.
I don’t want to engage this early as I just woke up; I think a lot of poeple arguing your type of way are paid agents to help corrode western democracy
But
Your side seems to omit the fact that the democrats were fighting a systematic takeover of the media to brainwash as many not-as-politically-engaged people as possible. A take over the likes of the US have never seen before and it’s culmination happening with Trump. A campaign to fully take over the US which worked wonders for them.
The tan suit and spicy mustard debacle actually riled people up because certain media was running it constantly. Media that was brainwashing millions to hate democrats for every and any little things. Media that planted the idea that thinking like a democrat was any harsh word you didnt want to be associated with.
So although the lesser of two evils plan was still in effect, the (wayyy) lesser evil wasn’t literally the hate mongering messiah put in place by a decades long plan to overtake the media at its literal peak of execution
Is this your first encounter with politics or something? There’s no way you actually think this is the first time America of all places has used the media to radicalise its populace.
Is this your first time reading? Theres no way you read one sentence that didn’t sit right with you and jump to conclusions
Yeah yeah, Trump is special an unique and the world has never seen anything like him before, except like… Nearly every single previous US president. So once again - are you new to American politics, or is your head stuffed so far up your arse you genuinely think any part of this is new or different?
So I’m convinced people like you are out here to waste people’s time and energy on comment wars instead of putting that time into doing something actually productive so I’m just going to cut if off here and go help people IRL
You’re a loser. Talk to you never!
It would have been much faster to just say your head is stuck up your arse.
Best point in the thread