I still can’t get over The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Are there any games that can replace it? I want to try something newer, with better technology, but I hope they can be as rich and interesting as Skyrim.

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    Oblivion Remastered - basically Skyrim, start here IMO.

    Kingdom Come Deliverance, 1 and 2 - exacly the same as Skyrim except super realistic and historically accurate.

    Dragon’s Dogma, 1 and 2 - faster paced dynamic combat with a big, vibrant world to explore, but without the finer details.

    Dragon Age, Origins, 2 and 3 - More strategic combat and dialogue, less world detail.

    Mount and Blade, Warband and Bannerlord - ok not that much like Skyrim but similar appeal. You go into battles with dozens of soldiers, command and fight alongside them, plenty of RPG elements and questing but is mainly a sandbox for you to figure out your own goals on your own.

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      I liked Dragon Age Origins but I couldn’t figure out the ending. Difficulty ramps way up, it feels like you’re meant to lose the fight, but when you do it just starts the mission over. If the game has an ending I never found it, so I just quit and read Wikipedia.

      Couldn’t get into the second one.

      You can’t really talk about BioWare games without talking about Mass Effect though. The first one is kinda trash, but it sets up the story. The first one is also badly broken and it never got fixed. The Legendary Edition is the first three combined and it fixes most of the bullshit the first one was on. The fourth one was good too, but don’t pay for any online stuff. They still sell it despite the server shutdown years ago. Just buy the base game. First half is great, second half is nothing but fetch quests. I think it was also going to have romances and maybe a sex scene, but all I got was friend zoned by everyone. So I guess they ran out of budget there, too. Honestly the first half is great and it’s worth finishing, but it’s exactly like that meme with the horse drawing that goes from good to terrible. The ending was such a let down and they teased DLC that never came.

    • defuse959@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Was able to get Dragons Dogma 2 from my library last week and boy is it fun. Probably 20 hours in so far and really enjoying the systems and world.

      Pretty darn solid game. I’d second this recommendation for Skyrim fans.

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          Oh no! Secret ending?! Now I’m really hooked.

          Is this something that can be missed during a regular play through? I’d hate to spoil it searching. If you don’t mind, can you let me know if I’m safe to search “dragons dogma 2 secret ending” or is it something that happens if I complete all quests or something similar if that’s not a safe search?

          Thanks friend! I put a few more hours in last night and had my first hired pawn show up again 20 levels stronger. Added them to the party again and it has been really cool how the character evolved and comments on being back with the crew. Little touches like that keep me hooked.

          • Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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            Nope, can’t accidentally lock yourself out of getting it. No worries there.

            But you do have to put some thought into it because it is up to you to do what is needed to trigger it as opposed to getting the regular ending. All I will say is pay close attention to details during the late game

            And man that’s the best feeling is seeing a pawn you hired before come through the rift again. The game is chock full of those little touches, like having people fight over you at your house after getting a few NPCs affinity maxed out.

            I also heard the game is getting or has gotten a substantial update recently, so about time I give it another go around.

            • defuse959@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Thanks for the info! I’m sure I got a ways to go until late game so I can hopefully still get see it.

              Sounds like I need to read up on affinity as well. I just got the house in Vernworth (after a rather messy arrest that took half my gold) awesome to hear that there’s other dynamics and systems around that.

              They really have built something that feels as well engineered as a souls game without the punishing difficulty. I’m trying to ascertain weak spots on the various big monsters now. As a Monster Hunter fan, it’s cool seeing that type of mechanic in another Capcom game!

              And yeah, they released a trailer at Summer Game Fest for a Dark Arisen expansion coming in October of this year. Looks pretty neat. I might be able to purchase a copy of this by then and jump in to that.

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                Bro affinity is major. Drastically lowers the vendor prices, they can have rare items added to the shop, and people leave you gifts at your house. Even a few quests can have different outcomes depending on the involved NPC affinities. Some quests are even locked behind having certain NPC at high affinity for the later game.

                And oh hell yea! You have no idea how hyped I am to hear it’s the Dark Arisen expansion.

                • defuse959@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Holy smokes. Thanks for the heads up! I’ll do some researching tomorrow and see how bad I’ve biffed so far not knowing about that.

                  Thanks again!

                  And I’ll be excited for dark arisen with ya despite not having any context.

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      STALKER 2 is actually quite enjoyable and has great world building, pretty solid story, and a lot of the loveable jank.

    • Talentless Sculptor@lemmy.world
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      Tried the first three games in the series, but man, the enemy AI is so dog shit and the gun play is horrid. Does any mod actually fix this?

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    Unfortunately Fallout: New Vegas is the only game I can think of that can top Skyrim. I know you wanted a newer game, but that’s the best I can do.

    Have you considered Cities Skylines II? It also scratches the same itch for me, and by that I mean that it has robust mod support and can be played forever without me ever getting bored of it.

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        Not a fan Cyberpunk. There’s literally nothing to do in that game outside of a mission. I want a game with heavy mod support where I can just wander around and bump into things to do. Cyberpunk is the exact opposite of that. It’s basically a linear game disguised as an open world title.

        I’ve tried a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game (don’t remember which) but I was bored within 15 minutes. I will have to give the series a second chance.

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          Hmm, well, I’ll find out as I play more C2077. I wonder if mods may help.

          The S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games should be played in order because there is an enemy whose explanation is chronological. There are quality-of-life mods in the sidebar of /r/stalker, which are essential for at least the first game. I would understand if you disliked it without such cleanups applied.

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    4 months ago

    What platform are you gaming on?

    I would suggest The legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild.

    Even if you hate Shitendo (like I am) there are ways to play it on other platforms

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      4 months ago

      So is Oblivion, though in terms of “better” it belongs in the middle spot it happens to occupy numerically as well.

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        Eh, I tried Oblivion, the Cyrodiil seemed to be quite small, while both Morrowind and Skyrim are quite gigantic for their time.

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          The expansion helped for sure, Shiv Isles.

          True though it was for sure smaller (unless you ever tried to “no fast travel” rule yourself then you’ll find out how big it is real quick lmao), but (and I concede Morrowind is just better, it just is there’s no way around it), but while Skyrim was large, effectively “who cares” because it was empty and dull and drab and gray. Cyrodiil is smaller but it’s absolutely gorgeous and vibrant throughout (even in the snow covered regions so that’s no excuse.)

          Furthermore, my fundamental issue with Skyrim is the quests are just…dull. The main line is ok (Oblivion’s was better and Morrowind’s better still), but the side quests are abject dogshit, and the side quests historically were my favorite part. I stole a goddamn Elder Scroll, I snuck past every Ancestor Moth, I became the mother fucking Gray Fox, and in skyrim “hey you remember that same dumb silver vase you stole from one dickhead’s house? Steal it again from another dickhead’s house. Gray Fox? Whodat?” I loosened the bolts on a man’s stuffed moose after sneaking through his crawlspace to avoid his paid security, and got a bonus for it, and eventually became The Speaker. In skyrim “go kill that guy. Cool do it again.” The most memorable part of The Brotherhood in skyrim was from oblivion, by Lucian Luchance’s ghost.

          I’m gonna be real, I kinda didn’t like skyrim and don’t think I’ll get 6. I’ll replay the oldies. My only real complaint with Morrowind is beast races can’t wear helmets and boots (I understand “human ones wouldn’t fit” but think given their existence in-lore it would make sense for them to have seen humans wearing them and gone “hey let’s do that for our shape.” I do however accept that the Cats and Lizards might still not though, Argonians being newly freed and technologically behind, and the Kitties need their claws but should have helmets, even if only leather.) My only real complaint with Oblivion is I wish they’d have left a bunch of shit from Morrowind like crossbows etc.

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            My dude, I did a no fast travel run of Skyrim, so Cyrodiil won’t scare me :D

            As per quests - yes, they don’t really adapt to your current progress, and that might be a problem for some. It makes sense to complete all sorts of side quests alongside the main one. But still, I kinda like the feeling I can go somewhere and be pretty much no one even though I’m about to slay Alduin. Feels like a breath of fresh air.

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              Not even just “they don’t adapt,” Skyrim’s side quests might as well not exist they’re so damn boring. “Oohhh a race war” who cares I want to steal cool and varied stuff!

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                The “race war” was actually one of the most entertaining parts to me - that’s an entire new dimension of struggle besides the main dragon story! Honestly, I think they could handle it better, adding more details, as it’s one of the major things we’re introduced to early on in the story.

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              I didn’t mind the non-levelling quests so much but, for example, it takes zero time to become the Archmage of Winterhold, but then every magical person outside the college still treats you like a novice who can barely be trusted with a fetch quest. It’s a little immersion-breaking in both directions

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            Amen brother! After playing Morrowind and Oblivion and then getting Skyrim I was so disappointed. Feels like a mass appeal version of Elder Scrolls that was hollow compared to the other two

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              As someone who started with Skyrim, I still wait for Skywind to release. I honestly tried Morrowind, but for a modern generation of gamers, it’s simply unbearable as far as game mechanics, controls, animations etc. go. I stopped straight at Balmora, because I can’t get used to it. And OpenMW can’t fix all that.

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                100% fair! Personally I think Oblivion is better for those reasons too. Morrowind is really magical though, some of those more open systems provide opportunities that modern hand holding systems just can’t recreate. It is definitely worth the time to get accustomed too, kind of like acquiring the taste for craft beer or fine wine. Stuff that you originally found offensive might become some of your favorite parts. No map markers so you have to read and follow directions is a good example of that. On the surface, it’s a pain compared to modern games. But acquire the taste and suddenly you realize you’re paying more attention to the world around you, mentally mapping landmarks. It’s really immersive and cool in a way that walk towards this symbol isn’t.

                All that to say, your opinion is totally valid haha

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                  I actually enjoyed not having quest markers! That gives a sense of discovery that felt fresh and new despite the old roots, and I hope Skywind won’t force quest markers on the user (although I also hope they will be added as an optional feature).

                  I just want to see things looking and moving more naturally, along with sensible keybinds and more.

            • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              By far. Such a disappointment.

              And Fallout 4 was the same, fight me (probably not you “fight me,” I bet you agree based on your TES opinions.)

              • AmbientChaos@sh.itjust.works
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                Hard agree on Fallout 4! It was the same feeling I got from Skyrim. Something like “Ah, this series I love isn’t being made for me anymore”

                I got your back when the fight breaks out

      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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        Add in OpenMW and Tamriel Rebuilt.

        Tbh, I really need to get into Morrowind myself. I’m excited for Skywind and kinda waiting for that to come out instead, since I have a lot of projects keeping me from gaming this year

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    For some reason I can’t get into Bethesda games. I’ve tried numerous times but they aren’t for me. I guess I find open world rpgs to be really boring for some reason. Even though I like looter shooters/Diablo clones. Which is a similar genre but more focused on getting da loot.

  • Cypher45@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Kingdom Come Deliverance 1 was great.

    But it’s a Medieval RPG, not fantasy. So you won’t find elves or orcs or magic.

    Edit: Actually nevermind, don’t play it, it’s too strict of an RPG, not for everyone, (i.e. fighting more than 2 people can kill you easily unless you master the combat, using a bow won’t give you the center reticle, saving the game needs a specific item or you need to sleep in a bed, wearing a helmet will limit your vision to the shape of the visor, etc)

    I suggested this because my Skyrim was modded to be a strict RPG as well.

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        Yeah that’s what I said, I suggested KCD because I was playing a modded Skyrim.

        If OP wants the feel of vanilla Skyrim, then KCD is not the right choice.

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      And the sequel is of equal quality, the combat was simplified a bit but I like both approaches.

      The sheer amount of high quality narrative across both games is pretty unique. There’s very little that feels like filler busy work, which was what most of skyrim felt like for me. Especially after oblivion.

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    Idk but you better tell me you find one!

    I’m tried a lot of the games mentioned in the comment. Many are good, but none of them scratches that Skyrim itch.

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    Telling people what in particular you like about Skyrim is going to get you much better feedback as there are many, many games that are similar in some ways but not others.

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        4 months ago

        Sorry, nothing can match the glory of Posh Mudcrabs, especially when paired with samuel L jackson mudcrabs in SKYRIM.

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      4 months ago

      I’m just looking for a game where I can hoard consumables in perpetuity. Any suggestions?

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        You never know when you might need them.

        Have you considered going meta and hoarding games you might play about hoarding consumables in perpetuity?

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      I like the scripting language? It’s stupid easy to edit the bytecode and change something if you want to without needing a full dev environment.

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    4 months ago

    I really liked Assassin’s Creed Odyssey

    Not the same, but a very fun game

    I also like Ghost of Tsushima, but if anything it’s even less like Skyrim

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    I loved Skyrim, considering going back to that well soon. I’m on my 3rd playthrough of cyberpunk 2077, I’ve embarrassingly got 470 hours on that game. I feel like those 2 games are somewhat similar, 1st person open world, player choices have some effect on the game but not much, character customization is a lot of fun, side quests galore, lots of lore, tons of mods, etc… cyberpunk had serious troubles when it first came out but at this point it’s a solid game. I recommend giving it a try