• nonentity@sh.itjust.works
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    18 days ago

    Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

    Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

  • brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Its fugazi, this money isn’t real, the worth is made up and expeculated.

    The eventual implosion of the American is going to be crazy, I’ve never heard any American politician even say the word austerity, they’ll be eating each other.

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      19 days ago

      Ah yes, uNrEaLiSeD gAiNs.

      Simultaneously worth nothing so it can’t be taxed and worth billions so it can be used as collateral to take out tax-free loans from the bank.

      Ever the paradox that one.

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      19 days ago

      It’s still fascism, so what you are describing is just Soylent Green but the citizens have the full freedom™ to chose any colour Soylent Green they want. #free

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      Well, no money is real. It’s all just a made up value a bunch of people nod their heads to.

      And unfortunately, it looks like the country is going to go on believing Musk’s valuation, right into a cyberpunk corporate dystopia.

  • Hackworth@piefed.ca
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    19 days ago

    A million seconds is ~11 days. A billion seconds is ~32 years. A trillion seconds is 31,689 years.

  • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
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    19 days ago

    It’s okay, it’s all unrealized gains so he can’t do anything with it except to use it as a collateral, oh and especially NOT pay taxes.

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      19 days ago

      Exactly this. It’s Schrödinger’s money.

      Worth nothing so it can’t be taxed and worth billions so it can be used as collateral to take out tax-free loans from the bank.

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        19 days ago

        Upside is if the stock crashes the banks get to harvest his organs or something. Don’t think anybody has been stupid enough to use stock collateral loans as one of their primary money source before, unless someone who threw themselves out a window during the stock market crash leading up to the great depression did so.

    • Gerudo@lemmy.zip
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      19 days ago

      It is absolutely wealth if he can walk to the bank and get a loan using it as collateral.

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      Ok, depending on how you measure capital gains as income he’s still making more than half the countries on earth (~$50b, eg. Estonia) this year, if not from only today with the 20% gain on the IPO price for SpaceX.

      Once it’s all said and done this year he will have “made” well into the hundreds of billions putting him probably in the top 50 countries.

  • turdburglar@piefed.social
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    19 days ago

    citizen. yeah, no. i’m not calling that fuckknob a citizen. citizens contribute and participate in society.

    fuck elon musk. fuck xai.

    build the water treatment plant you promised the people of memphis.

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      19 days ago

      I assume they mean gdp so here’s the list for countries and here’s the list with some states mixed in for fun:

      1. United States — $31.8T
      2. China — $20.7T
      3. Germany — $5.3T
      4. India — $4.5T
      5. Japan — $4.5T
      6. United Kingdom — $4.2T

      (California — ~$4.1T)

      1. France — $3.6T
      2. Italy — $2.7T

      (Texas — ~$2.6T)

      1. Russia — $2.5T
      2. Canada — $2.4T
      3. Brazil — $2.3T

      (New York — ~$2.3T)

      1. Spain — $2.0T
      2. Mexico — $2.0T
      3. Australia — $1.9T
      4. South Korea — $1.9T

      (Florida — ~$1.7T)

      1. Turkey — $1.6T
      2. Indonesia — $1.6T
      3. Netherlands — $1.4T
      4. Saudi Arabia — $1.3T

      (Illinois — ~$1.2T)

      1. Poland — $1.1T
      2. Switzerland — $1.1T

      (Pennsylvania — ~$1.1–1.2T)

      • crapwittyname@feddit.uk
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        True, but I think it’s the other way round. He’s a fascist because he’s obscenely wealthy. When you have that much power, empathy dies. It’s a downward spiral of negative feedback actually, the more power, the less empathy, the greater the lust for power and the more unscrupulous you can be, and so on.

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    18 days ago

    Why would they be upset by the idea of a trillionaire making campaign donations?

    All they need to do is pledge allegiance!

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    18 days ago

    I’m taking a class on systems rn and we’re learning a lot of very basic level concepts that also have some overlap with business and economics. I don’t hold a degree in economics like mr. musk, but learning the little I have about systems has really made me question just wtf wealth hoarders (most of whom seem to be much more familiar with systems thinking) envision for the future?

    The idea of systems balancing or collapsing seems to be fundamental to ALL systems. So even if the goal is to collapse this one, and that’s why they don’t really care/maybe are trying to ensure it’s as unbalanced as possible, what happens in the next system that emerges as a result of their success?

    I really can’t buy they suddenly no longer feel the compulsive need to hoard resources because they’re motivated to preserve their own system.

    Has a chat bot convinced them there’s a special loophole and the rules that apply to every other system don’t apply to theirs?

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    19 days ago

    We need to take it all and redistribute it.

    He’s so good at the game he’ll surely have no problem winning again.

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    18 days ago

    His companies operate at a loss. How is this guy a trillionare? Not in my view.