• Mniot@programming.dev
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    1 day ago

    regular people barely get basic human rights

    if you don’t agree with what trans people are saying, they exclude you from their spaces and conversations

    This seems to align with what the OP was saying? Regular people barely get rights, trans people ask for those same paltry rights and that’s treated as an assault.

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      1 day ago

      That’s not what I meant. I meant that we are all in the same boat wanting to be treated fairly. Being treated unfairly is not a uniquely trans experience.

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        14 hours ago

        I’ve never encountered a trans person who said “I and only I have ever been treated unfairly.” I’m sure someone’s said it (the Internet is a big place and full of trolls), but it’s a pretty ridiculous thing to say. I recommend that if you ever see it in the future you just shrug at the person who is clearly not speaking in rational good-faith, rather than taking offense.

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        1 day ago

        This is why fighting for rights for those that don’t have them also results in better conditions for those who started in a slightly better position. Programs like the Black Prisoner’s Caucus create better conditions for white inmates as well. This concept is pretty common in activist spaces.

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          I don’t think that trans people are the vehicle that will bring basic human rights to all. I don’t think framing it in group-speak is helpful either.

          Its awful that all of these people are struggling, but we can’t even agree on the cause of or solution for that suffering. I wish the community wasn’t so eager to defend positions that haven’t had time to be established as fact yet.