• sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works
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        4 months ago

        The last time I talked to an American they weren’t sure if Canada was part of their country or not. I’m not confident in them being able to understand anything beyond what they can see.

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        4 months ago

        Called it. And what some of us did. You’re right that both names originate in the UK, but soccer was always limited to some dialects and is very rare to hear at all in the UK now

    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      This fake affront to people from the US calling themselves American is really dumb, man. Yes, everyone from those two hemispheres can be called Americans, but most people don’t have a stronger identity to their super continent than their country. Someone from Columbia isn’t going to call themselves American and then get bothered when they have to clarify that they meant the super continent of North and South America.

      People from North America identify as their country first, and North American second, if at all. They don’t call themselves American unless they’re from the states.

      You don’t hear people from Italy call themselves Eurasian. And if a new country formed from an alliance of middle eastern countries and called themselves The United Territories of Eurasia, I don’t think any one would bat an eyelash over them calling themselves Eurasian, either. Dumb performative wankery is exhausting, man.

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        4 months ago

        It’s “dumb” because you know I’m right. USAians think they represent everybody on the planet. Every film about aliens has some USAian speaking up on behalf of all humans. Supernatural occurrences only happen in the US. The “World Series” is, you guessed it, in the US.

        Also, the French and Spanish literal translation is “USAians”.

        And Italians call themselves Italians, but because USAians can’t find the country on a map nor understand that being Italian doesn’t mean you’re in the mob from New York, they have to say European. Sometimes that doesn’t even help.

        USAians don’t represent 2 continents, much less the world. Suck it up.

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          4 months ago

          Movies I’m presuming were made in Hollywood largely feature American protagonists? I’m shocked. Don’t writers know they should presume to know other cultures instead? /s

          What other languages call Americans is irrelevant. We’re talking in English. Do you think it would be appropriate to call Germans Germans (the English word) in deutsche? Or Japanese people Japanese in their language? Japan, by the way, is actually a translation murdered Chinese name for their people. They refer to themselves as Nihonjin, well 日本人, literally people of the land of the rising sun.

          America has always had a xenophobia problem. This means when large groups of immigrants arrive all at once, they’re basically forced to rely on each other because the locals are pretty unfriendly. The result is an immigrant community whose country of origin becomes the thread that kept them all together. The Italians of New England are the Italians because that identity is what saved their community from honestly a really fucked up time. And yeah, the Italian mob also comes from that time period. If you can’t earn money via legitimate means, crime is sometimes the only answer.

          We know the difference between Italian Italian and Italian American.

          We don’t presume to represent two continents. The policy of our government and the views of the average American are not aligned in that way. Most Americans think we’re the good guys, going out to stop bad guys. Like, actually. Yeah, it’s stupid, but a lot of Americans are waking up to the reality of the situation, now. We’re the most propagandized population on the planet, and it was only during covid that a lot of people saw the mask slip.

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            What are you on about? What do cultures have to do with this? And USAian protags are regularly cast in different roles (note white-washing). And the “World Series” isn’t just in the movies btw.

            We know the difference between Italian Italian and Italian American.

            LMAO, sure, whatever you tell yourself to sleep at night. Most of you don’t even know the shape of Italy, let alone the continent it’s on.

            We don’t presume to represent two continents.

            No no no, of course not. This entire discussion wasn’t you getting pissy about being called USAian. Sorry, completely misread that.

            What other languages call Americans is irrelevant.

            Where did I say this or imply it? I really hope English isn’t your first language, because you’re doing a pretty bad job at comprehending it.

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              4 months ago

              Also, the French and Spanish literal translation is “USAians”

              To quote you, since you want to attack me rather than talk.

              I’m not running another gish-gallop with you, man. I’ve said my piece and you’ve been ignoring everything I’m saying, trying to win your troll game. Enjoy, man, and may you have the day you deserve.

    • the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip
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      4 months ago

      I think the English speaking Canadians fall into this trap too. Hopefully they will learn after hosting the world cup 🙏

    • Omnipitaph@reddthat.com
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      4 months ago

      Everyone forgets that soccer is oxford slang for Association Football. So in a weird way, USAians call it football too :/