fuck offffff
Interesting how the majority of the comments refer to you being monitored on your own phone, ignoring that you will be monitored on everyone else’s phone as well.
Probably something people aren’t thinking about. How would this even work in two party consent states/countries?
The same way slopgen cleverly went around seemingly unbendable coryright laws: by ignoring the shit out of it, and half-scaring half-bribing the governments and the public to allow them to do whatever the fuck they want.
By
bribinglobbying local politicians. As always, laws are only real when they’re enforced.
Much like how Facebook includes non-users in their social graph.
Which is also an important issue with google mail.
But this also violates the expectation that spoken conservations are private.
This will be quite illegal in all countries and states that require 2 party consent at minimum.
Incoming Google lawsuits in 3, 2, 1.
lol. they are exempt from copyright, they will be somehow exempt from this too.
OK, how do you disable it permanently? Besides Graphene or mobile Linux?
Yes. To all of those.
I saw this title and immediately said “fuck off” then clicked, and …glad to see OP sharing my immediate sentiment.
GrapheneOS, asap Pixel owners.
Thank me later.
Before it’s somehow no longer an option. I fear the Motorola deal will somehow get blocked.
<Laughs in GrapheneOS>
I am thinking about installing Graphene OS, any thoughts so far on how it work, or rather what hasn’t worked on it? I am already using Brave and Proton and trying my best to get out of the AI overlord mess that is Google.
I use grapheneOS for many years now. I’m having some trouble coming up with things that haven’t worked on it. I use Aurora as an alternate front end for google play, for downloading certain free apps.
I think I’ve seen problems with apps that check google store for purchase verification, but I don’t personally have a google account or purchase android apps so it hasn’t affected me.
Its nice if you are actually trying to stay away from Google. Its probably not the best experience if you still want to use their apps and services.
I prefer the experience. My phone doesnt try to get my attention or track me, at least as far as I can tell. Reminds me of when the first smart phones came out and they were just useful tools.
I am new to GrapheneOS, and I love it. However, it doesn’t work with Google Pay, Wallet, or Moto Tag devices.
I also prefer the unbloated ROM and limiting what Google can do on my phone. However, this new captcha thing is worrying: https://www.digitaltrends.com/phones/the-makers-of-security-first-grapheneos-are-putting-google-and-apples-tactics-on-blast/
I’m at a point in my life where I just won’t use a service or company if it won’t work on my devices. Thats not likely to be a luxury everyone has so I know its not for everyone.
Second the req against Brave, the CEO is actively a fascist sympathizer.
Mullvad and Librewolf are both better, especially since Brave is Chrome-based and is going to stop supporting Manifest v2 when Google finally swings the axe.
Ironfix on Android is best equivalent to Mullvad on PC.
Also fuck Brave and its CEO and its crypto fascism bulkshit.
Mullvad doesn’t work on Android though correct? And if privacytests.org/android is to be believed, seems like Brave currently is the best of the bunch, unless you have seen something better?
brave is not a good privacy choice (it has repeatedly shown that it is not to be trusted, it squeezes money out of you, and is run by a homophobic cryptobro (who is also the creator of javascript)
on android, use firefox or ironfox; on desktop, use librewolf
Anyway to set up Firefox on android to actually block tracking? Seems like it is just as leaky as Chrome, but maybe they have improved it.
not sure
i dont actually use android, i use an iphone, i just know quite a bit about this stuff
Is mull not recommended anymore?
Mull was from DivestOS, which ended up folding a few years ago. Sad, cause I actually used it on a OnePlus 7T phone and it was a promising alternative to Graphene that similarly allowed for bootloader relocking. I really wish the team got the support it needed.
idk about it
ironfox is forked from it tho
Good to know, thanks!
Anyway to set up Firefox on android to actually block tracking? Seems like it is just as leaky as Chrome, but maybe they have improved it.
Honestly, it an easy switch and you’re going to love the control you regain.
JFC, I don’t need tech tracking every goddamn word and fart.
I will happily send them all the farts they want.
Microsoft introduces “Recall” spyware the world goes mad, Google and Apple do something similar and it’s mostly silence.
I’m not defending Microsoft but it just shows the double standards between the trust in these corporations.
Do not want
Dumb phones are about to start trending more and more every day.
And graphene OS, maybe
Until Google decides to lock them out of any sort of verification process.
By then Motorola will have shipped the first round of “with Graphene pre installed” devices, assuming they stay with their plan.
I recently got rid of my smart watch when Samsung enshitified it and locked a bunch of features like weather updates behind an account, years after I bought the watch.
Now I have a dumb mechanical watch (quartz crystal, not spring winding) that will last years before I need to replace the battery. Everything it does, it does better than a smart watch. Not having to do the wrist flick gesture 1-3 times to check the time has been amazing. And I’m not constantly broadcasting Bluetooth anymore.
The Commodore Callback has perfect timing haha.
Really the only thing I’d miss with it is Google Wallet and Android Auto.
My only barrier to it is the T9 text input. I’m constantly writing notes on my phone. I would have a hard time if I had to T9 every note in.
Sure a dumb phone won’t record for Google. Current ones don’t and probably can’t be made to.
But recording would be trivial to implement even on a dumb phone if it becomes acceptable to the majority. Hell it could become a legal requirement.
We cannot run away from these issues by using old phones, old vehicles, ‘physical’ media etc. Eventually they will be unavailable. Some, old vehicles, really should be for other reasons.
Or as others have pointed out, you might not be recorded by your phone but you will be by the others’.
We need to persuade more people to actively oppose such measures outright. Defend privacy, control of our devices etc explicitly.
or Linux phones
Because all of their customers were clamoring for such a “feature”?
Of course, it will have the option of being “turned off”.
I mean, we’ve all long suspected our phones are listening to us anyway, why not make it into a “feature”.
“There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!” — Mario Savio, 1964
This is really about training AI, isn’t it. They’ve tapped nearly all the sources of human text output already, so now they want to create as much more of it as possible, as quickly as possible. They will tap into conversations and use it as a new data source, mark my words.
They are so lazy they want an LLM to tell them what is hot and the only way they can do it is by massive spying. The surveillance state brought to us by fucking advertising of all things. So bizarre.
Yep, not just audio either. There is a reason the tech companies are pushing into glasses with cameras and it isn’t to make people’s lives better.
Fuck you Pichai you fucking banchode.
TIL what a banchode is….
“Banchode” (often spelled “banchod” or “benchode”) is a vulgar Hindi/Gujarati slang insult roughly meaning “sister-fucker,” similar in strength to “motherfucker” in English.
Pronounced bench-o-day?
Ben-chode… Add lots of fucking either before or after for authenticity
The internet is becoming a hostile place, filled with predators and hazards, a privilege only of the wealthy, the powerful and their slaves, was not on my bingo card for things I’d live through. I feel I may have no choice but to genuinely disconnect from all of it in my private life.
