Totally agree, and i think thst second paragraph puts it perfectly.
If I’m being generous, I know them to have blocked:
solar power generation
Nuclear power generation
HS2, They’ve blocked it hard
Pylons in suffolk which I just learned about
So at the most generous way of looking at it, that’s only 4 things, but 2 of those - HS2 and Nuclear power - are incredibly important and could completely elevate the environmental performance of our nation.
Solar power? Sure I could argue that the land is better uaed for wildlife and farming, and I usually would do so - but they usually wouldn’t. Absolutely no enforcement of a party policy, which means any nation-wide leadershio will lack directikn and see the ciuntry stagnate or flounder under the weight of 100s of harebrained schemes which act against one another; for every city building a new green energy plant, another city will be tearing one down to build - well, their priorities don’t seem to be the environmetpnt at all right now, so i guess it would be refugee housing or something, which could go anywhere else.
I’m also worried that if the Green party were to take control, anywhere, and didn’t set out to cut any public projects, they would simply de-rail them by running out of budget on other stuff. The list of useless things they want to spend taxpayer money on seems to be endless - yet I don’t see things which will actually improve the wealth of the country, which is what we need right now to fund sweeping changes to the environment, production and public transport.
Famously they’ve been very successful where come from - Sheffield - but have absolutely nothing to put to their name following a long-reigning green party mayor of the city … other than some postulating and participstion in reality shows.
(Actually i would credit the green party’s success here with the delay to Sheffield getting an improved metro system, which is now only going ahead under a labour-led Combined authority for the entire county.)
Also their current leader is the worst one they’ve ever had. Yes he stands up to israel, but he’s cruel and nasty like a cult leader.
Yeah, the Polanski geezer is a conman and I’m amazed people can’t see it a mile off. I’ve seen deeper puddles.
The other thing I worry about is if they displace the Labour party as the main centre left force in the country, that would be regressive, in that the organised working class would no longer have any political power at all and the centre left would be represented by the petit bourgeoisie, essentially (which is who makes up most political parties, Labour included), without a workers’ voice. Polanski’s been talking to trade unions, sure - but so did David Cameron. It’s not the same as having a labour party.
The other thing I worry about is if they displace the Labour party as the main centre left force in the country, that would be regressive, in that the organised working class would no longer have any political power at all and the centre left would be represented by the petit bourgeoisie, essentially without a workers’ voice.
Absolutely. Actually I think this is the same old problem - like it or not, the working class is mostly opposed to mass migration, so they’ll be voting restore and reform. Precisely the same thing that kept Tories in power for 15 years from 2010-2025.
I don’t blame the greens and labour for not thinking in 4D chess terms but here we are, back where we started.
Labour’s traditional union backing seems to have split funding between labour and greens now, which is a mistake on their part because The Green Party seems to have nobody with economic literacy in it.
I read somewhere that even the much-mythologised white working class voted Green in the recent Manchester by-election, so the whole culturally conservative thing seems to be much overblown.
Famously they’ve been very successful where come from - Sheffield - but have absolutely nothing to put to their name following a long-reigning green party mayor of the city … other than some postulating and participstion in reality shows.
(Actually i would credit the green party’s success here with the delay to Sheffield getting an improved metro system, which is now only going ahead under a labour-led Combined authority for the entire county.)
He held a, what Wikipedia calls, ceremonial post for one year? The Greens also only had 8 councillors and Labour a majority, so this criticism feels very misplaced.
Totally agree, and i think thst second paragraph puts it perfectly.
If I’m being generous, I know them to have blocked:
So at the most generous way of looking at it, that’s only 4 things, but 2 of those - HS2 and Nuclear power - are incredibly important and could completely elevate the environmental performance of our nation.
Solar power? Sure I could argue that the land is better uaed for wildlife and farming, and I usually would do so - but they usually wouldn’t. Absolutely no enforcement of a party policy, which means any nation-wide leadershio will lack directikn and see the ciuntry stagnate or flounder under the weight of 100s of harebrained schemes which act against one another; for every city building a new green energy plant, another city will be tearing one down to build - well, their priorities don’t seem to be the environmetpnt at all right now, so i guess it would be refugee housing or something, which could go anywhere else.
I’m also worried that if the Green party were to take control, anywhere, and didn’t set out to cut any public projects, they would simply de-rail them by running out of budget on other stuff. The list of useless things they want to spend taxpayer money on seems to be endless - yet I don’t see things which will actually improve the wealth of the country, which is what we need right now to fund sweeping changes to the environment, production and public transport.
Famously they’ve been very successful where come from - Sheffield - but have absolutely nothing to put to their name following a long-reigning green party mayor of the city … other than some postulating and participstion in reality shows.
(Actually i would credit the green party’s success here with the delay to Sheffield getting an improved metro system, which is now only going ahead under a labour-led Combined authority for the entire county.)
Also their current leader is the worst one they’ve ever had. Yes he stands up to israel, but he’s cruel and nasty like a cult leader.
Yeah, the Polanski geezer is a conman and I’m amazed people can’t see it a mile off. I’ve seen deeper puddles.
The other thing I worry about is if they displace the Labour party as the main centre left force in the country, that would be regressive, in that the organised working class would no longer have any political power at all and the centre left would be represented by the petit bourgeoisie, essentially (which is who makes up most political parties, Labour included), without a workers’ voice. Polanski’s been talking to trade unions, sure - but so did David Cameron. It’s not the same as having a labour party.
Absolutely. Actually I think this is the same old problem - like it or not, the working class is mostly opposed to mass migration, so they’ll be voting restore and reform. Precisely the same thing that kept Tories in power for 15 years from 2010-2025.
I don’t blame the greens and labour for not thinking in 4D chess terms but here we are, back where we started.
Labour’s traditional union backing seems to have split funding between labour and greens now, which is a mistake on their part because The Green Party seems to have nobody with economic literacy in it.
I read somewhere that even the much-mythologised white working class voted Green in the recent Manchester by-election, so the whole culturally conservative thing seems to be much overblown.
He held a, what Wikipedia calls, ceremonial post for one year? The Greens also only had 8 councillors and Labour a majority, so this criticism feels very misplaced.