• Talentless Sculptor@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Women are women and men are men. Actual is meaningless here.

    Agreed. Just like cis-woman/man is meaningless.

    I never said that trans women were “a male that feels like a female”,

    Correct. I did.

    I said that their gender is incongruent with their sex, and you agreed with it.

    Yes.

    Gender and sex aren’t the same phenomenon.

    Agreed.

    Gender refers to the typical psychological and sociocultural traits that are usually congruent with one’s sex, while sex refers to strictly to one’s biology.

    Yupp.

    Cis women may also have XY chromosomes (XY gonadal dysgenesis) and internal testes.

    You confuse sex and gender here. We call these people intersex, because they fall somewhere on the spectrum of the bimodal sexual distribution axis. Males has xy chromosomes and females have xx.

    Discarding other primary and secondary sexual characteristics just to disregard trans people just makes you seem more ignorant.

    Precision is the opposite of ignorance.

    Wanting you to not be a douchebag isn’t analogous to wanting you to accept their religion.

    Agreed, but if I have to go along with their religion in order to not be branded a douche bag, the distinction is meaningless.

    😂 Addressing the scientific consensus isn’t appeal to authority. I’m not saying “This person is a doctor so they must be right” I’m pointing to the consensus of WMA which is a gigantic WHO-partnered organization. The same is also visible for the majority of major medical organizations in the U.S.

    There is currently no scientific consensus regarding the nature of gender as it pertains to sex. Much less regarding if sex is immutable or not.

    Plenty of biologists also hold the view that evolution isn’t real, and that doesn’t affect the consensus. This issue was also mostly settled already before it became a political point.

    Pardon me, but which consensus was that?

    And nobody is saying that we should get rid of the male/female distinction.

    No, just make the terms meaningless by broadening them to include anyone who identifies as male/female.

    Disregarding the fact that this statement doesn’t disagree with my point, I hope you’re not as stupid as to not see this entailing calling grown-ass people babies.

    Male=baby.