• ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
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    15 days ago

    Why are they claiming Virginia? They’ve been learning against all the other Southern bullshit for a while now

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        14 days ago

        Grew up in Virginia, from and currently live in South Carolina.

        Nova and Hampton roads go to 1. The rest of the state goes to 2, but it is definitely not SC. SC actually has black and Latino populations, and a pretty solid chunk of blue voters. Rural Virginia has neither, and is basically east-east Tennessee.

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      15 days ago

      If conservative voters were able to comprehend the world without the lens of the stereotypes they learned in high school, they wouldn’t be conservatives.

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      15 days ago

      I honestly think you take the bordering states of 1 and 3, and give them to 2. And the rest form a united 1.

      Basically, putting 2 between a hammer and an anvil

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        14 days ago

        New Mexico, Colorado, Maryland, and New Jersy are not about to join the neo-confederacy. Maybe Indiana, Ohio, and Pennsylvania if the new POTUS is a black gay trans woman from Michigan who promises to ban chikd marriage.

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          Utah joins and there are constant skirmishes in the rural Colorado regions that are sympathetic until CA puts Utah under control

          Honestly Utah, Wyoming, Montana, both Dakotas, Idaho, and the eastern parts of WA and OR

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            14 days ago

            Hardly anyone lives in those areas though. And the cities in those states are still really blue/left.

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              14 days ago

              I mean that’s the case in nearly every state. Cities mostly lean blue, rural areas red

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    15 days ago

    There might be a momentary advantage where 2 come out of the gate strong, as they have their stockpiles of weapons and ammo they obsess over. But they’d peter out the moment their blood pressure and cholesterol meds get depleted and the everyone else rolls their eyes and gets to down to business.

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      14 days ago

      Fun/not so fun fact, the two counties in the 48 contiguous states with the most guns per capital are both in Idaho. Then comes Wyoming and Montana. Plus these states are statistically in better physical condition than the south. 2 loses in every scenario, and quickly.

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      14 days ago

      10am, first day of civil war: everyone goes home for snackies and doesn’t come back, citing the heat.

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      14 days ago

      Pretty hard to pay your army with welfare states. Also note CA has the most enlisted out of any state and would likely receive a lot of backing from Asian militaries.

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          I mean even in the previous US civil war, Confederate ships when built in Great Britain, France fought proxy battles for the south through commerce and diplomacy, Mexico transported supplies to the south for France. Russia sent Navy ships that were to engage if Britain or France sent ships. Like, other countries absolutely get involved in civil wars one way or another.

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      Nah, historically militaries are loyal to the person signing their checks. Pretty much every state in the south but Texas is economically destitute. Private corporations would turn on the south so fast it’d snap their necks. No company would choose the market of 2 over 1 or 3, let alone both of them. California alone has enough buying power to shape regulation that’s stricter than the fed.

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      14 days ago

      Fortunately, they don’t have the backing of the entire fucking United States military, as many tens of thousands in the military are from 1 and 3, and they will protect their families.

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        14 days ago

        The dog catching the car…what do you do with something like NYC. Even if you win? Where do the new doctors graduate from? Nurses? Who certifies them? Same with electricians, carpenters, gasfitters, HVAC and plumbers? Those blue collar jobs would have their professional credentials destroyed, and be forced to compete with every general contractor… a race to the bottom. Sophisticated technology would stop operating after awhile, and with the loss of the supply chain and licenses/regulated manufacturing facilities nothing in the U.S.A. of substance would be built. Only those in the army would be paid. Essentially you’d get N. Korea, fascist Spain, Venezuela or an Iran, like country. Mass migration out.

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    14 days ago

    Well 1 has most of the nukes, money, and food, as well as a really strong natural barrier. And 3 already beat 2 for reasons that remain relevant. So yeah. 1 and 3 ally to curbstomp 2.

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      14 days ago

      lol how are you holding onto the nukes, money and food?

      You guys can’t even fight back from the comfort of your fucking computer chairs. Get fucking real. The first sign of confrontation, everybody is just going to try to migrate out.

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            Well considering they know they have all those things they would be secure knowing they aren’t worse off compared to the south,

            2 lost to 3 last time,

            2’s states don’t actually provide the most soldiers, especially if 1 and 3 group up on you.

            Texas has a decent likelihood of actually telling 2 to go Fuck themselves and doing it’s own thing as a 4th faction if it thinks it can become trading partners with 1 and 3 or just might free ball it like they’ve always go on about,

            Florida would lose a lot of its appeal of being apart of the objectively worst section of this brake up and lose a lot of its power and would no longer be a playground for the rich, or worse, they just end up under they’re control.

            either 1 or 3 could ask Canada for help (though they would likely want to keep the states broken up for a while.)

            Your state leadership doesn’t take care of your inferstructure hence me telling you to go drink lead water,

            most of 2s states actually lose money, not make it. you can see this in there tax to rebates ratios, which will take a hit.

            Plus all the obvious fall out from braking apart and having the awful reputation no 2 has, people will likely not side with you diplomatically.

            And these are just the obvious ones, I’m sure there are more I not thinking or know about.

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    As much as I would want 1 to win, 3 would probably win.

    2 winning is laughable. We would have sooooo many drone videos of giant MAGAs frantically waddling away from bring droned, mobility scooters set to emergency power in vain… lots and lots of yellow in the aftermath videos.

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    15 days ago

    1 has a big chunk of the active nuclear weapon stockpile, I don’t think they’re a group we want to fuck with.

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    15 days ago

    I think 2 needs to remember that.

    And the rest of y’all need to remember OREGON would win out versus any state. It was voted on. If we had our way, the US would be Cascadia and it would be glorious. BWAHAHA

    I mean, yeah you got your butts kicked and it should have been worse! We still have to deal with BS from red welfare queen states-- learn the lesson already! >.>

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      Exactly. Was gonna say, 2 basically has the least healthy, least educated, most poor, and most obese people of the entire country.

      Good luck

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      15 days ago

      “But we got all dem Gravy Seals! Ain’t they good for somtin’?”

      Yes, and you give yourself da Beetus buying soda with the food stamps paid for by New Yorkers.

      The sad part is how hard the South committed to losing. Not lost take the L and walk it off. Generational losing. Epic, century-long losing every single fucking day of every life of every redneck, cracker-ass dipshit. Systematic losing, so deeply ingrained that even when they get ahead a little bit, one fucking Yankee asswipe cons half of them out of their every last dime. And they’re glad to give it up.

      Roman empire levels of tragic, really.

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      14 days ago

      They’d have to bring back slavery to even possibly make it viable

      They’d also probably turn into a raiding culture

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        14 days ago

        All those fat greasy doomsday prepper types love to advertise just many supplies they have stocked up. They’ll be the first ones raided.