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      • pdxfed@lemmy.worldEnglish
        72·
        7 days ago

        There are like 100 for the whole country. No one gets audited, statistically speaking. It’s why you’ve never learned anything about taxes from your parents or friends. They don’t know either. People pay people at HR block who don’t know about taxes either to file. No one gets in trouble because the only people who know tax laws work for the very wealthy. Or at the IRS where there are about 100 of them to 300m of us.

        • DrPop@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          7 days ago

          I know where you are coming from, but i can assure you the people who are being audited are being audited for a reason. Either it’s claiming false dependents or credits they are not entitled to. I’ve seen people try to claim a $50000 refund but there income is only $5000. What happens is these people go to some random person on the street who says they can get them a bigger refund and they don’t question it.

          • audit69@programming.devEnglish
            1·
            6 days ago

            I am reasonable… I am hearing you but the ultra wealthy have this country on its knees. When the leaders steal the peasants do to. Thats why you got to have a iron fist. Lower level offenders have relative inconsequential gains and I think in terms of cost to benefit ratios as I favor only in this particular instance, a top down approach. To crush the ultra wealthy as they stand inbetween us and collective success. Billionares should be scared. What we have now is socialism for the rich, unions for the dogs and scraps for the rest as the Minotaur chases us through the labyrinth of tyranny. Taxes in other countries and filling for them is not a stupid maze. They want you to mess up like the walmart self check out that charges twice and then the managing percerption receipt checker that doesn’t even notice you were charged twice. It is a hidden tax in a game of russian roulette with the gun pointing from above and we now got chatgipty to feed us half truths as the top apes chomp cigars. People who are broke will use this gipity nonsense like check cashing services and eventualy as the empire dies back we will cannibalise as this will become the standard for all… and you know what all that money will support the same system that is commiting a genocide. Talk about a conquer population. We have such low standards.

    • MyBrainHurts@piefed.caEnglish
      89·
      7 days ago

      The top ways people plan to use AI is to help answer filing questions, find deductions or credits, and review returns for mistakes.

      If you can’t afford a professional, these don’t seem particularly unreasonable. I certain wouldn’t recommend feeding all your info into chatgpt etc but for a simple filer, asking an LLM for explanations or possible deductions seems fine.

      Not everyone has access to the same resources that I do, so I try to picture it from others perspectives.

      • charokol@piefed.socialEnglish
        13·
        7 days ago

        If you can’t afford a professional, you are probably not in a place where you would have enough itemized deductions to match the standard deduction

        • audit69@programming.devEnglish
          2·
          6 days ago

          Someone on the internet told me they don’t have enough people to do audits. Maybe they will send ICE… Anything goes now a daze

        • MyBrainHurts@piefed.caEnglish
          29·
          7 days ago

          Like I said, not everyone has the same resources I do…

          But this doesn’t seem worse than googling questions and not everyone can spend hours waiting to talk with the Irs/Cra etc.

          It just seems that sometimes folks are so determined to be anti LLM that they refuse to see how it could ever help anyone.

          • in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.socialEnglish
            7·
            7 days ago

            “Googling” used to get you to the needed IRS documentation, but now, with the help of Gemini you’re just being lied to.

            https://arstechnica.com/google/2026/04/analysis-finds-google-ai-overviews-is-wrong-10-percent-of-the-time/

            If you need tax help, call your local library, they often have tax help. Also if it seems like a tax dodge, don’t take the deduction. Don’t outsource your brain to an LLM. You’ve done your taxes before without a GPT you can do it again.

          • audit69@programming.devEnglish
            11·
            6 days ago

            I have two chatgipty robots on my servers… they are resource hogs and they waste my time. I gave it the old college try but I would rather a central authority and a easy process than double checking / double handling the garbage that the techbro chatgipity stole. It is like the nazis were bad but aleast we have rockets. Always put blame on the consumer, shelter themselves from liabilities and keep maxing out the nations credit card like there is no tomorrow To the point were the currency ain’t shit and we are all trading in fart coin which can be taken away by the super structure if we don’t kiss the ring.

            • MyBrainHurts@piefed.caEnglish
              1·
              6 days ago

              Believe it or not, there are people who aren’t you who struggle with stuff.

              Help a marginalized person with paperwork and you’ll see what I mean.

  • jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    7 days ago

    I wonder if I counted…

    So I did the tax prep using a free offer from TurboTax. Everything seemed traditional.

    Then, at the end it generated an AI summary of my return. I didn’t have a choice, it just did it. I have the “unhelpful” feedback because:

    • Despite saying it was “explaining” the numbers and why, all it did was just list the numbers from the fairly straightforward table right above the AI response in a more awkward form, not explaining anything.
    • Further, despite the seemingly easy task of “Take a table of figures and repeat them in prose”, it still screwed up and messed up and of the figures that all our had to do was repeat verbatim.

    So AI was forced into my tax prep and did nothing substantive (thank goodness) and flubbed the cosmetic role it tried to play.

      • jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        5 days ago

        I actually had not used TurboTax before. And as a result I could do state and federal free with them this year, so it was cheaper than freetaxusa.

        But won’t be using it again next year, it was fine but not particularly impressive compared to usually cheaper alternatives.

      • boraginoru@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2·
        5 days ago

        I do! And also got my dad to switch to it this year 🙌

        It’s always been good, and in the past few years they have been adding scanning for various documents, the lack of which was my only complaint about it before.

      • WindyRebel@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        5 days ago

        I’ve been using it for like 4-5 years now I think? It’s awesome and does what TurboTax does but is muuuuuuuuuuuuch cheaper (if you choose to file online) or free (print and send via snail mail).

    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      5 days ago

      Turbox Tax worked hard to get AI some revenue.

      If you didn’t do the multi-step downgrade of your service (have to downgrade two or three times to get to the free version) then you might’ve counted. The AI doesn’t do anything, but it starts as a way to justify charging you like $140. It’ll default you paying for it even if its unused.

  • mermella@piefed.socialEnglish
    18·
    7 days ago

    Why are we filing and paying taxes anymore? They’ve stripped most things that help the common citizen including things like the SEC that allow the president to pump a stock ticker

      • xthexder@l.sw0.comEnglish
        3·
        6 days ago

        FreeFillableForms works regardless of your income or if you have other unconventional things to claim. It’s just a bit more manual than some of the other apps, but does support e-File. I find the instructions are pretty easy to follow though, especially if you can reference your previous year’s return.

    • rmrf@lemmy.mlEnglish
      31·
      6 days ago

      It’s probably more of a replacement for Google than anything. IMO for stuff like this it isn’t different than asking a forum and as long as you know that there’s little room for fuck ups.

  • jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    7 days ago

    Hey LLM. I’m thinking of deducting my Corvette as a business expense for my landscaping business, is that a good idea?

    What a creative way to lower your tax burden! This totally makes sense and you can be confident that your decision will be well received.

    (Others can take the LLM tone better than me, and I don’t have the patience for LLM verbosity).

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    6·
    7 days ago

    So if we do this, and the AI fucks up, can we just blame the AI and not get in trouble? Isn’t that why it exists?

  • Maeve@kbin.earth
    4·
    6 days ago

    I don’t know if cashapp uses AI or not to file their “free” tax returns. I know that prior to using it I had to agree to let them use any and all information for marketing and advertising. Nope!

    Then I got an offer from someone to use TurboTax for state and federal for “free” but they spend plenty to lobby the government not to have free filing. Also nope, doubling down, because of the comment here by @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

    • johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      5 days ago

      I Fucking hate turbo tax. They’ve gotten so intertwined in our tax system from all their lobbying. I couldn’t find my w2 for an employer I quit in July, after some research I found out my former employer just automatically gives turbotax all their w2s. I didn’t even want to do my taxes with them because I know about their bullshit but had to log in so I could get my w2 from turbo tax to take it somewhere else. I bet they get a lot of people that are just like “my w2 is here I’ll just do it with them”.

      • boraginoru@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        5 days ago

        That’s crazy, how is that even legal? You should have to deliver someone’s W-2 either to their physical address or provided email address.