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- politics@lemmy.world
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- politics@lemmy.world
World peace, lol.
What a way to find out I’m a Spaniard.
Putin is finished, he is a walking dead together with the Russian Empire he wanted to create.
But we need to support Ukraine more, so this stupid war isn’t prolonged more than necessary. When the war is over both Ukraine and EU will prosper.We need to help Ukraine win ASAP so that we can redirect our military resources to defending ourselves against the United States.
Putin and Trump are the same threat, just look at what they do in Hungary.
Putin is stuck in the past (concretely USSR era) and Trump is stuck in the present (terminally online tech bro)
Well, yeah, at least Putin is smart, and will act strategically. Trump is just a monkey flinging poop.
Yeah, very smart that one. If he didn’t attack Ukraine, Russia would have been one of the wealthiest countries in the world. The entire EU was dependent on them ffs. Now it wouldn’t surprise me if I hear that the federation breaks apart very soon.
He couldn’t even take Ukraine. The biggest difference is that he isn’t a terminally online manbaby who needs constant attention.
So do we Americans.
Let these escapades serve as an example that, outside of the Epstein Class, people’s only power here is local.
Spain’s been going fairly hard lately, and I’m loving it!
It’s all bark and no bite. If they want to go hard, how about they actually do something instead of sending thoughts and prayers.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1499394/european-aid-to-ukraine-by-country/
This is more than thoughts
Oh wow… closed airspace for US military planes. Must be real expensive. What a huge sacrifice.
They’re not risking anything. It doesn’t cost them anything. The only reason they close it is for their own domestic politics.
You don’t think their own people should be their priority?
You probably don’t mean to, but you’re sounding like a bit of an ignorant asshole. Were you like hangry or sth when you wrote this?
Possibly. I am in the process of decreasing my carb intake by 99%
Great that they closed their airspace. Truly. But praising them for “going hard” I think is silly. And I stand by that their reason for doing so is purely for domestic politics. It’s the right decision but for the wrong reason.
for the wrong reason.
I don’t see why this matters to you at all. If someone feeds the homeless nefariously, then let them. The homeless are getting fed. If someone stops the holocaust because it allows them to cement their hegemony, or because they got paid for it, whatever! If it stops the holocaust, I’m happy.
Except it doesn’t stop the genocide at all.
And the problem with doing the right thing for the wrong reason is that next time it’s not going to be the right thing.
And people do feed homeless people nefariously, it’s a real problem for real people. Mixing in moulded food. Filling sandwiches with toothpaste.
I’m sure you want them to say thank you and eat around the toothpaste… but I’m not going to praise them for it.
Let’s make it relative. Which countries are going harder against the US (without supporting Iran).
Why would it be relative? I’m sure Denmark could close their airspace to the US too, but it’s not relevant so does it matter?
Other countries are busy spending enormous sums of money and resources on helping Ukraine. Opening up a second front in a second war has never been a successful strategy.
You were going to complain no matter what Spain did…
No, they could start actually helping out in europe and I’ll be overjoyed.
You could be fighting in Ukraine, since you seem to think that’s a good idea. There’s plenty of conscripts happy to switch places with you.
I’ll even cover your railway ticket from Poland.
I’ve already been to Ukraine. We drove 2 trucks from Sweden filled with supplies. Everything from stethoscope’s to food. What have you done?
Mate, Spain isn’t doing great itself. As much as I would love to have Spain’s support, they need ours first. There is a lot of corruption, poverty, inequality, oppression of minority groups, etc. The fact they speak out against a tyrant does more on the world stage than staying politically correct and trying to keep the modern fascist regime a friend because that would be the economically smart choice.
We need people to speak up, to take a side, because silance is compliance. In history we remember the ones who did. Like Martin Luther King and Ghandi, to just name a few. Their words meant more than their money. We also remember the UK and France for taking a stance against Hitler too late, after letting him go too far already.
Even the pope is doing it. It has always been the strongest power of the Vatican, even though their wealth could end world hunger more than once.
What Spain is risking by closing it’s airspace to the US, is war with the US if the US doesn’t give a shit and uses its airspace, and Spain keeps its word. I wouldn’t say that’s just bark and no bite. That shit is serious. It’s only just bark if they don’t enforce it, but we don’t know that yet. At least they take a strong stance, which should be an example to us all. They risk war with a super power to take a moral stance. They are modern day heroes if you ask me. Rosa Park did the same, taking huge risks to take a stance.
They are not doing great themselves, yes, there’s plenty of corruption to go around, is any of that an excuse? Their problems didn’t happen yesterday. They’ve had plenty of time to work for a better future. All while being funded by the EU. They’re just not interested…
I’m not complaining about Spain closing their airspace. That’s great.
But giving Spain credit for “going hard” is just wrong. For decades they’ve gone by doing the bare minimum, if even that, reaping every possible benefit of EU while contributing nothing of worth or significance.
Spain is not risking war with the US. Not even close.
Clueless. Do your homework.
Naval Station Rota, and Morón Airbase are pretty fucking big, strategic, and not being able to use them is not trivial.
Bullshit:
“I would like to present new measures from Spain — first and foremost, a new military aid package worth EUR 1 billion for 2026. In total, Spain’s assistance in this war has reached EUR 4 billion,” Sanchez said.
Awesome. Better late than never.
But if their PM says they’ve given 4 billion I suppose it must be true. He is the leader of a country after all. They would never lie or skew the truth in their favour.
Spain with their corruption are obviously highly trustworthy.
you dropped this.

It’s yours, don’t lie
don’t kink shame, it’s rude.
We can laugh at what we accept makes others happy too you know. I don’t need to approve of peoples kinks for them to be allowed to exist.
doesn’t make it less rude though…
Are you assuming there’s decorum on the internet?
Sorry, how does not supporting the war in Ukraine make Spain’s opposition to US and Israeli wars hypocritical? This makes no sense.
I didn’t say it was hypocritical.
You just have a form of Tourette where instead of saying curses, you have to type about Ukraine or something?
No. Does it usually work for you to just throw spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks?
No, you see, I’m actually responding to the subject of what I respond to. It helps. You should try it, instead of bringing up your pet proxy war in a thread about the US and Spain.
Spains actions in general are very much the subject to the statement of “Spain going hard”.
Proxy War
Say no more. I see ml users have escaped containment
Oh, so hard! Closed airspace to US planes. Wow! It must be very scary.
Spain’s location is very important strategically, and not being able to us Naval Station Rota, and Morón airbase complicates things for the US. Disabling, no, but it certainly makes things harder.
There’s a lot going wrong in that country, sadly. But their stance lately on the US and Israel is admirable and should be an example for the rest of the EU, and the world. Silence is compliance.
How is Israel lower that North Korea. What did North Korea even do wrong, they’re an isolated dictatorship, who bother no one but South Korea. There are many more states like this. Eritrea, Turkmenistan for example. Also, why is China first. They aren’t committing war crimes yet, only crimes against humanity. Can’t say the same about the US, Israel and Russia.
There are no reputable sources for this.
US invading Iran is similar to Putin invading Brazil btw distance-wise. Which one can you imagine ever happening?
Im 42 and I can’t remember a time the US wasn’t over there.
There’s even a meme about it.
"Born too late to be sent to the middle east.
Born too early to be sent to the middle east.
Born just in time to be sent to the middle east."
Honestly they’re correct. Putin at least seems somewhat predictable and he’s definitely more intelligent.
😂 good joke!
Idk, someone intelligent wouldn’t have attacked ukraine.
Do you really not understand that intelligence is relative and that even different stupid people can be smarter than each other? I’m pretty sure you get that.
You seem very upset by this.
Ok thanks for your valuable feedback
Are you saying trump is not an idiot…?
How did you deduce that? Putin isn’t more intelligent than trump, because someone intelligent wouldn’t have attacked the ukraine. I’m saying they’re both idiots.
0.02 is bigger than 0.01, even though they’re both small.
Sure, all I’m saying is someone significantly more intelligent wouldn’t have attacked ukraine. People seem to disagree.
Tbh, I think it’s that you say putins not smarter than trump, instead of not much smarter. That may be hyperbole, but people are going to treat it as though it’s what you believe unless you specify like you do here
Is Trump actually taller than Putin? I never cared about height but I know in political photo ops that’s a big deal.
I was unaware that most of the world is Spanish. The more you know…
It is the most broadly-apoken language.
It is not.
English is the most broadly spoken language (native and non-native speakers). Mandarin has the most native speakers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers
Really? I thought that had changed, but it looks like it’s still got a long way to go
I’m surprised english is the 3rd highest natively spoken language.
Not only Spaniards, every sane person will put US as number one enemy of the world.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-hated-country
currently in second but i expect them to vault to the lead with all the shit going on.
Finally a country that sees the reality of the situation.
I think they all see it, but are scared to say it out loud in case he gets activated. Like when you see youre being watched late at night. You dont run and scream immediately you sort of walk a tiny bit faster trying not to let them know that you know because that’ll trigger the chase.
“Play it cool and form a plan”
well, the world country hate index has China first, US second and Russia third. China is working to change their image, donations of solar panels in Africa etc , Russia and the US are active in making their world image worse and in making the world worse.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-hated-country
I assume with all these shenanigans, we’ll see the US vault to the top.
but as an Australian, I’d agree with Spain, The US and Russia are now our enemies, China is not in anyway an ally of course but more like Vietnam etc









