Personally I haven’t. While Linux is imperfect, choosing the right distro makes the rest of the experience straightforward. And with it’s whole complexity, I find Linux more user friendly than Windows. Even driver issues, broken shadow file ownership and KDE specifics only made me more confident about my choice to use Linux after I solved everything.
During the early days of Pulse Audio. Sound sometimes would stop working for inexplicable reasons.
Before Pulse Audio sound on Linux was literally lame.
ALSA works better than Pulse Audio. Fite me irl
All the time but then I remember it’s my fault because it’s open source and I am not fixing it either.
Noob take.
It happens. But when I boot into Windows those disappointments ease up.
More the people behind it than the distro, but CachyOS. Aside from the performance improvements only being marginal, I was happy with the convenience after a decade of using Vanilla Arch. It was the first distro ever to tempt me away in that decade. I was really, really disappointed by the response to the age verification bs. The mods did a terrible job with discussion on the forums and the devs never made a formal response. The upside is I learned more about Systemd and now happily using Artix. So at least some good came out of my disappointment.
The best way to learn something new is to be upset by something old.
Worse case you learn something new! Best case you find a better option for yourself.
Yes, I installed Fedora and everything was working OOTB. Nothing to tinker with, no issue with sound, WiFi, Bluetooth or external screens. Then I moved this SSD to a new AMD laptop and it worked perfectly. It even switched from Intel to AMD utils by itself.
So disappointing.
I am disappointed we still don’t have a solid FOSS smartphone OS that can compete with the 2 monopolies who have cornered the market.
I don"t want ro sell my soul to Google or Apple just to use my bank (even on my computer thanks to mandatory 2fa apps) or to renew my government issued ID or to buy a train ticket on European public transport.
That disappointment isn’t with Linux
depends on where you draw the line.
in the past, i’ve been mildly dissapointed by the drama-queen-esque antics of the kernel developers; but i most recently DEEPLY disappointed by how thoroughly the kernel developers to caved to the us gov’t’s demand to kick out russian developers instead of complying maliciously like others do.
both are separate from linux, but linux can’t exist without them.
postmarketOS, LineageOS, GrapheneOS?
I know they have limited hardware support but that’s only a matter of involvement at the end of the day
I wanted GrapheneOS but all Pixel phones have this huge ass camera house on the back.
Unfortunately only postmarket is actual Linux os from these and it’s far from daily driveable, lineage and graphene are android roms and are therefore dependent on Google’s decisions with AOSP.
Technically AOSP also runs a Linux kernel. Lineage and Graphene are like this only for compatibility reasons, no one stops them if they decide to fork. And AOSP itself is still not that bad though
Out of curiosity, what about PostmarketOS is not daily driveable? Postmarket is a vague umbrella OS with a lot of DE options, all of which have vastly different user experiences. KDE mobile, phosh, and GNOME mobile have all come a long way and provide everything a smartphone OS needs. The only thing I’d argue that could prevent daily driving is lack of app support and lack of good mobile Linux hardware, but that’s not PostmarketOS’s problem.
have you tried it on a real device? maybe this is a hardware support issue, but no matter which DE i use (be it phosh, plasma mobile, gnome, …) it was extremely buggy and mostly unusable. battery drained like crazy, calls didn’t work properly, the list goes on. to be fair this was on a poco f1 and lg k10, which aren’t in main or community though…
my daily driver is a 2013 phone with custom rom and i’ve daily’ed a self ported ubports phone in the past, my level of tolerance for buggy experience in daily driver phones is very likely much lower than others
Yeah, device support is the biggest issue. But the OS as a whole is pretty good. I used it with a OnePlus 6T and a Nothing Phone 1, both of which have pretty decent support. Some things about it were broken, and I didn’t try putting in a SIM card and making calls or texts, but the overall experience was good. I have high hopes for when we eventually get good “flagship” linux mobile phones that have full PostmarketOS compatibility.
Mainly in terms of firmware for actual phones, taking photos is basically impossible as the photos either look horrible or don’t work at all. Frequent sound issues, lower battery life, unreliable mobile network connection and lack of inbuilt esim support. OSes based on halium have better experience though they do still lack the app support.
Jolla was a massive disappointment. As was the M$ buyout of Nokia.
What’s wrong with Jolla?
Failure to deliver their tablet in 2016, in a big way. They’re trying to do a phone now, it’s going better - but that’s not saying that it’s going well…
Ah, I see. That makes sense. I don’t actually know that much about them, other than that the Commodore phone uses Sailfish.
Before Proton, I wasn’t able to consider Linux as a viable solution for home computing at all. I could set up and manage a pihole, and salvage an old laptop to use for word processing and email, but couldn’t run anything my family or non-techie friends were familiar with.
Sure Wine was a thing, but I think for most casual users it wasn’t worth the hassle.
My first attempt with Ubuntu 15ish years ago was horrible; almost nothing worked, GPU support was trash, it was just an all around miserable experience.
With proton, stuff just works. It’s like a whole new ecosystem now.
For years…every time I needed to configure a printer. Sometimes when I needed to find drivers for a wifi card. These days…it just works.
Nope, okay I fiddle more with complex scenarios than ever before with windows. But I never lost files/progress than I lost with windows bluescreens. And since everything is open source and documented. There is always a way to find a solution, even if its a reddit post 12 years ago.
Yes, the packaging mess that Atomic distros cause.
I want a couple of functional things:
- To be able to safely upgrade my system silently, without interruptions, and rollback of necessary
- To know my system is not drifting away from upstream defaults and to restore it to a “factory” state
- To sandbox applications
I’d like to be able to do all that efficiently and cleanly too. Atomic systems generally fulfill those first two while traditional distros struggle, which is why I stick to Atomic distros.
But whereas you can use a single package manager on Arch and get everything (albeit without easy sandboxing), Atomics keep adding more and more. Here’s your rpm-ostree, flatpak, toolbox, homebrew, sysexts, etc.
I find sysexts particularly insulting because they regress so much on traditional packages for so little upside. Doesn’t even have dependency management.
I would wish we would stop creating so many package managers and just focus on improving existing ones.
In a more ideal world we would have something like
- Distro based on Freedesktop runtimes
- Flatpak that officially supports both GUI applications, CLI applications, and even daemons/services
- Flatpak would also be able to reuse the Freedesktop runtimes of the host system
Idk why people at flathub decided not to allow CLI programs.
And no alisses to the names of the programs.
Two very frustrating decisions. I would get rid of snap on my system if not for those few CLI tools I need.
I have only ever been positively surprised. Just a few of all the good habits that Linux has made me adopt:
- RTFM
- Reading logs
- Keeping/reusing old hardware
Sounds like an Arch user.
Woopsie🤪
Artix btw
I am disappointed at professional application support, but not with Linux specifically. In my professional life I have needed to use products like Visio, Adobe Suite, Autodesk software, and others.
I am often forced to use Windows for my work computer because of these limitations, and while I realize its not the fault of Linux, the lack of install base demanding professional applications run on Linux is a community issue. While I always prefer FOSS over PROP software, sometimes I really do need to run PROP software on linux, and that means convincing enough people to demand that support from the developer.
There is a compatibility issue too. Every Windows 11 is almost identical, enough for software to run, but Linux encompasses a lot of different systems. Valve makes it work on Ubuntu and then if you’re not using Ubuntu, makes it your problem to go the rest of the way (usually pretty easy) which is a fair tradeoff but also not the plug-and-play you get with Windows. And don’t even mention X11 versus Wayland.
that means convincing enough people to demand that support from the developer.
I think it means convincing people to drop the proprietary platform and telling the sales rep that both lack of Linux support is why you’re dropping them and what application you’re switching to. As long as you’re still a revenue stream for them they’re not incentivized to change. I do recognize, though, that this isn’t always professionally possible as the end user.
Oh sure, all the time.
A computer running public auditable software refined by some of history’s top computer scientists…is still just a computer.
We taught spicy electrified rocks how to help us fill out tax forms.
It’s going to fall short every so often.
Not with Linux per si but surely I have with the LKML and Linux Foundation guys. With Linus and Greg. RH, Canonical, Gnome. And so on…
I get it with Canonical and Red Hat, but why Linus? What is he doing recently?
It’s more what he’s not doing: blocking MIT licensed drivers in the kernel.
Also there was that thing with banning Russia from the LKML. He stressed over he was a Finn at that opportunity. Don’t ask what the Finns were doing at the WWII. And he’s a pro status quo kind of guy.
God forbid a fascist authoritarian government known for cyberwarfare be banned from working on the Linux kernel.
Do you mean the USA? UK? France? ISRAEL???
You NATO removed are ridiculous. And the true enemy of the humankind.
he means Russia because that is the country that was banned from the Linux kernel mailing list
the UK, USA, France, Israel and NATO were not banned from the Linux kernel mailing list
the topic of this discussion is people getting banned from the Linux kernel mailing list
hope this helps
The West is lost
user is from lemmy.ml
Yeah, that tracks
So is the subreddit
It would be one thing to ban a fascist government, but he didn’t ban the Russian government, he banned a whole country of people who have no control over or choice in who the government is or what it does. And worse was that he spouted what amounted to racist sentiment as a defence.
