• lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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    2 months ago

    Most important: it’s even a 2/3 majority. Without that, Orban could have still blocked most of the changes. Now, he cannot.

    • w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
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      2 months ago

      looked set to win 94 of Hungary’s 106 voting districts.

      Hell yeah.

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    2 months ago

    I must admit, even though he was down in the polls, I still expected him to win somehow. It gives me a little glimmer of hope that the world may not become an authoritarian hellscape.

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      I didn’t really expect him to lose. But I had serious doubts if he would get out of the government after it.

      But then, I don’t know the details.

      • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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        2 months ago

        Even if he lost with a close result, he could have blocked lots of change. Fortunately, his opponent has a 2/3 majority, so Orban can’t do anything. 😃

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      2 months ago

      If the loss is big enough, there is no way to get the foot in the door, might not waste the political capital of a tantrum to keep doing damage leading opposition.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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        2 months ago

        And the loss is basically a wipeout. They are practically irrelevant in Parliament, and Tisza, unlike in Poland, can just boot out any of their appointees as they have a supermajority.

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        The massive turnout also made it impossible to pull anything funny. It’s relatively easy to slip in a few thousands of fake votes when you control the electoral apparatus, but trying to skew such a lopsided election with such an high participation rate would create participation rates above 100% in some places.

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      2 months ago

      Hard to tell right now. He used to be one of Orban’s buddies up until a few years ago. He’s saying the right things right now - less corruption, more services for Hungarians, closer ties to the EU and NATO.

      But we’ll see. From what I understand, Orban was also seen as a progressive about 20 years ago. But then Putin and greed got their hooks into him. Hopefully the new guy is legit.

      If he is legit, I wonder his this will shift the dynamic in the EU. Without Hungary vetoing everything Putin doesn’t like, does this clear the path more for Ukraine joining the EU and/or NATO? I know there are a lot of other factors in okay. But the people of Hungary might have just helped others and not just themselves.

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        That will truly be a major test. Man, I’m hoping for a legitimate win for once. This could be the biggest shift since Carney’s victory in Canada. I’ve also sadly seen how gullible people can believe lies like, “America First” and “No New Wars,” and take a pathological liar at their word. Leaving aside the longer-term games being played by billionaires.

        Here’s hoping for the best. I’m just honestly a bit shocked that he relinquished power this easily.

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        There’s another EU member with a russian stooge in power, isn’t there? I could be wrong but I think it was Slovakia that recently elected one.

        Still great news that Orban is out.

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          Let’s hope he doesn’t suffer from sudden and acute defenestration.

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      He’s against support for Ukraine. So, outlook not so good. On paper, he’s an improvement over Orbán but he’s still at least center-right. We won’t know until he starts implementing policies.

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      He’s legit, no worries on that front. Implementing policies and promises - let’s see, but I’m optimistic

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    What’s the catch? Just watched John Oliver and got the impression this was impossible

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      Orban put so many of his cronies everywhere, it will take years if not decades to restore the country

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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        Since it’s a 2/3 blowout, all of those can be simply removed.

        The biggest danger going forward is Tisza becoming corrupt by either not going through with removing them, or becoming like Fidesz was.

        They state they won’t.

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          My hope was that Tisza would be 1 or 2 seats away from the super majority and there would be another opposition party (non orban, non nationalist) in parliament to actually be there to stamp things

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            The thing is that the only parties I’d trust with that are the ones that stepped back before the election. The only three others on the ballot were the ultranationalist Mi Hazánk, the collaborator DK, and well, MKKP. If that scenario happened with any one of these, they could be paid to be obstructionists.

            There is no getting around it, the people will have to keep them to account to implement term limits and the anti-corruption measures they were running on themselves.

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        Hopefully not. New party has 2/3rds majority, meaning they will clean house - new AG, new supreme court, election laws, etc. They can do what they want, which is a risk, but there is no other way to defeat Orban’s state capture

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    Finally, good news since Mamdani!

    I’m so happy for Hungary and for the EU! Hungarians, u rock!!! :))

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    2 months ago

    While i’m happy Órban is out, do remember that Magyar is Órban-lite and Órban spent 16 years ensuring he’ll be hard to get rid of. Magyar may’ve won the election but he’s not in the clear yet.

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      Let’s hope, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

      Orbán was already burnt, maybe they just put a new puppet (they = a country that produces vodka).

      Let’s see if he actually restores democracy.