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Hey guys I have just discovered a mechanical device with two wheels that you can use to get anywhere petrol free!
tech bros have entered the classical era
Please don’t mention anything even remotely related to Civ on this site for the next few days. I have too much to do.
Thankfully for me I find the game too confusing and boring to be enjoyable, because liking it seems like a really bad idea if you have an addictive personality.
If you are saying you played Civ and never found yourself saying “just one more turn”, you might just come out and admit you are a bot account.
Nope, can’t say I’ve ever said that. I’m sorry but the game is way too complicated and my ADHD is way too severe. Couldn’t even make it past the tutorial.
Truly. When playing Civ I lose all sense of time, and even when in the mindset of ‘I’m gonna save and quit’ there’s always one more quick thing to do first. I have to police myself hard because I will lose at least a week if I get into a campaign. I’m not even really a gamer. Games I enjoy I have a difficult time playing for more than a twenty minute spurt. But Civ… Civ is like fucking hypnotoad, it overrides all other feelings and desires. If you find it confusing and boring just go with that and you’ll be much better off.
Stellaris is the same way. When I got hooked I played 40 hours by Thursday. And I was in college, so I realized then I needed to be careful
That’s funny. Stellaris is the one game I have specifically forbidden myself from playing, so it’s good to get confirmation that it would ruin my life!
But I really wanna try that Star Trek mod.
There are a lot of neat mods that really amp it up.
You sure you don’t want one more turn at this?
😥
My apologies, I’ve accidentally seen the sun rise a few times while playing civ
50 degrees. That’s even warmer than last heat wave which reached temps of up to 42C. I thought underground would be cooler. Or does he mean the angle of the door is at 50 degrees? Or is it a dumb American again, who doesn’t understand they should note an F behind the number because they are the only ones who still use that outdated dumb scale.
Don’t bother, I know the answer.
Womp womp cry about it Eurotrash
Get blocked
Imagine not being able to use context clues to such an extreme degree while calling others dumb…
Not what happened.
If you know, then why did you post this?
Their inner dialog escapes on the regular.
Silly… the concerpt of a underground fridge probably predates the word cellar.
It might even predate words
Put some hot coals, a bucket of water, and birch whisks in there and baby, you got a sauna going!
Underground? That’s fun way to suffocate sure.
Keep in mind that the stick and cardboard houses those people live in usually have a “crawlspace”, nothing more.
Meanwhile in Europe, in some places you can literally get a castle for free!*
*Just as long as you can pay the titanic maintenance bill to maintain it to historical standards.
In an era of rapidly evolving technology, there ultimately isn’t much point to construct buildings, especially individual homes, that will last for centuries. Yes, the house may still be there two hundred years from now, but will anyone actually want to live in it? Or will it require so much updating that you would be better off just building something new?
If we hit a wall on rapid technological progress, then things will be different. If you can be reasonably certain that human beings will be living much as we do now in 500 years, than building a house to last that long will make sense to me. Until then, why waste the resources?
I definitely want to see houses be made of materials that can be recycled. But raw durability is not itself a virtue. Remember the ultimate truth here. Buildings serve people. That’s why they exist. And most people in 2026 do not want to live in a home built for the lifestyle of a 16th century peasant. How many people today know how to tend and cook on an open hearth wood burning stove? Yes, some homes that age do survive. But if anyone is still living in them, they have been heavily renovated and modified, many times over the generations. Old buildings like that are very much Ships of Theseus.
The wisdom of the American style of home construction is precisely in its impermanence. It’s an admission that we don’t have all the answers for all time, and that many of our choices today will seem foolish to our grandchildren. Yes, American homes can be quickly built and quickly torn down. But that is the entire point.
I am Ozymandius, King of Kings. Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair.
There’s no wisdom there, dumbass. They build it that way because it’s cheap.
It’s a not wisdom of individual builders. They obviously will go for the cheaper option. It’s more a wisdom of the crowds/market. A lot of folks outside the US have a cultural aversion to the American style of home construction. There’s a lot of areas of the world where even if a builder could affordably construct American-style stick-framed houses, that they simply wouldn’t sell. Look how some folks lament the “cardboard, sticks, and glue” that make up American homes, as if an inch-thick OSB panel is in any way comparable to the cardboard boxes used to package food. Even things like “tape,” as though the purpose-built and engineered weather-sealing “tapes” are in any way comparable to common masking or Scotch tape. It’s like denigrating a well-engineered concrete house as “just a pile of rocks.”
Americans have more of a cultural attitude of impermanence. It wouldn’t say it’s anything like the Japanese, but it’s still there. There’s an old saying, “in Europe, a hundred miles is a long distance. In America, a hundred years is a long time.”
Reminds me of the Grand Strategy mirage of history, wherein people ascribe some overarching, long-term vision to some sequence of ad-hoc decisions
A friend of ours bought a farm with land for 10k€. The land alone would have been worth that many times over, but the farm house, barn, and all the other buildings are somewhere in the range of 400 years old. And, of course, listed.
So they spent every weekend for over ten years and a fortune into renovating this and making it inhabitable. And the department responsible for historical buildings made the renovation process hell.
It’s a real hard problem for localities to get right. On the one hand, you want to preserve old buildings. On the other hand, buildings are expensive as hell. And when those ancient buildings were constructed, they were built by modest people. They were never meant to be super expensive to maintain. But over the ages, techniques that were commonly known then became rare specialties now. Every Medieval peasant could thatch their own roof. Now you’ll pay a fortune to bring in an expert in historical construction techniques to do it.
Yes, it would be ideal to require everything be maintained to historical standards and methods, but at some point, people just stop trying. People only have so much time, money, and resources. If you make it too difficult to renovate properties, they can’t be updated for regular use. And if they can’t be used, then who will put in the money to maintain them? The properties just end up being abandoned and slowly succumbing to the elements.
Some historical artifacts are easy to preserve. Give me a 300 year old violin and ask me to take care of it, and I can do so for almost no cost to me. Just keep it somewhere safe and dry, and it will be preserved just fine. But buildings require constant maintenance, and they are built assuming the easy availability of certain maintenance techniques. Requiring excessive adherence to historical standards does not result in more preserved homes; it just results in old homes being left to rot.
They live in what now? You mean like, in a slum?
They’re referring to wood-framed houses that have a layer of what’s essentially cardboard between the frame and the plastic vapor barrier that adds rigidity to the framing.
It looks flimsy as hell, but is actually good engineering. Think of it like Ikea furniture that racks until you put the cardboard backing on it, but then is remarkably stable. It also doesn’t crack as the house settles or the ground moves, is easy to patch and repair, can be effectively environmentally sealed with tape when you run plumbing or electrical to it, and can be cut to whatever shape it needs to be with a knife.
American houses are… different
Do yuppies even exist anymore? They were just boomers when I was a kid.
According to UK punk music yes, but they don’t seem to know what it meant originally and it means more just like “wealthy, educated, sheltered and white” the young adult professional part seems to be irrelevant
That’s not cold enough to preserve food.
Below 40F is needed to preserve food. Ideally, just above freezing, if you don’t want to freeze it. I keep my fridge at 35F.
But it’s perfect for storing root vegetables like onions and garlic
If only there was a commonly accepted temperature scale that makes it easier to see what’s just above freezing and what isn’t.
4.44°C and 1.67°C
Before refrigeration, they used to store big blocks of ice in similar conditions and the ice would last up to 10 months in there.
Today’s geo engineered ice will last half an afternoon and it won’t even burn like normal ice.
Building the cellar on a beach might affect how well it insulates. Loose mini-rocks vs dense soil.
I dug a hole on a beach once. I wonder if it’s still there. I think about that hole sometimes.
Damn, I should call her.
I saw your hole last week. It’s moved on.
Wouldn’t mind a cool cellar to retreat to at this point tbh. Diggy diggy hole!
But doing it reasonably safely probably costs a fair bit for materials to reinforce the soil.
Lmao apocalypse proof, except he built it on the beach so even a little bit of global warming would flood it right away. Apocalypse proof, except for that one actual apocalypse we have confirmed is in progress right now.
I just dug myself a whole palace beneath the ground, in the sand right at the shoreline.
This has to be a photoshop. The water table at the beach is the same level as the surface of the ocean, so usually somewhere between a few centimeters to a meter.
Yeah this thing would be floating with all that buoyancy
Yeah obviously this is fake as fuck. It’s the perfect tech bro invention in that it’s dumb and flawed in every way and also already exists but better for a very long time.
It isn’t even good photoshop, the angles are all wrong. Like is it in the side of a hill? But it looks like it’s on flat ground? It makes no sense.
I love when capitalism loops back like that and rediscovers something it already was before they started adding shit to it to make it better and simpler and then just invent the original all over again and be like- I’m a genius.
Sand dunes at beaches are often above the high tide line.
Its still fake, and sand is the worst soil to build something like this in. But it is possible it wouldn’t flood at high tide.
but how deep could the not-cellar be before hitting high tide?
I dont think my first thought in an apocalypse would be “Damn, if only I had an electricless fridge right now!”
50 degrees ain’t cool, literally the opposite in fact
50 Fahrenheit is 10 Celsius. Not as cold as a Fridge, but chilly.
They know.
Surprised it isn’t called a Ground Pod.
Only if they rent it for $900 per month and list it as a single bedroom with access to subway
Negative Altitude Produce Storage Facility
NAPSF?
needs work.
Hmmmmm…
Cool Enclosed Longterm Lettuce And Root Preserver, Organic Dimension
CELLARPOD
still needs work.
NAPH-THA.
Negative Altitude Produce Housing - Themally Held Atmosphere
Wow …almost as good as my invention that allows you to see through walls!
Please, we all know that no one on Lemmy uses windows
Oh shit yeah windows. I thought they just meant smashing holes through walls.
Depends if you want to see through your own walls, or someone else’s walls!
Your idea works, too.
Please don’t throw rocks at my transparent walls!
This wolf wifis.
How are you supposed to add AI to it without electricity?
The idea was made by chatGPT, of course
