In light of the dev silently blacklisting blahaj.zone, many of its users and several other instances, we have removed tesseract from the available lemmy front ends we offer.

  • fizzle@quokk.auEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Is someone going to spill the tea on this ?

    The fediverse seems so petty.

    • Hildegard (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      3 months ago

      This comment is likely a bit too close to the line for this instance. Blahaj is governed by guidelines rather than rules, and that sounded quite like a comment intended to cause harm. By all means criticize and condemn people for their actions, but this isn’t the place to post veiled wishes for harm. Its not the vibe of this instance.

      You’d probably be fine saying that on lemmy world, but comments like that rather iffy here.

      • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        I have no way to put anything into action nor any desire to do so in earnest… but thanks for letting me know, I’ll keep it in mind. 👍

      • mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        3 months ago

        liberalism was the “progressive” ideology when it superseded feudalism that process is over. Today liberalism is the regressive ideology getting superseded by socialism. Liberalism is the ideology of the private ownership of the means of production, instead of royal (feudalism) or public (socialism).

        • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Ohhh, so SPECIFICALLY economic ownership? That can get confusing. Conservatives yelling at liberals and… leftists yelling at liberals. There’s two entirely different conversations happening, using the same word. Or is it specifically liberalism vs just liberals? Or… Ah why’d they have to be the same word? They’re so different. There’s so much nuance, no wonder everybody’s always angry and talking past each other. Maybe people should say politically liberal vs econ liberal? Or I guess you just have to draw from context? Maybe everybody gets it but me 😵‍💫

          • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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            3 months ago

            I mean I guess Nancy Pelosi spelling it out “we’re capitalists and that’s that” wasn’t enough to make it clear they’re on the side of business and money, and not on the side of regular people or something.

            EDIT: Sorry, realized after posting this sounds kind of snotty. I just mean that unfortunately liberals often focus on growing capitalism, which is inherently a system that rewards ruthlessness and selfishness in business.

            I think markets are important, but markets can still exist without capitalism, and it’s clear capitalism’s way of approaching economics poisons our governance through regulatory capture. Capitalism lets every business owner be a dictator of his personal fiefdom, it does not allow democracy for workers in the workplace. So capitalism and democracy are nearly inherently unable to permanently co-exist, and liberals support of capitalism over even tightly regulated capitalism (which also doesn’t work because the people with capital will always use that capital to influence regulation to benefit them selfishly), they are still basically all-in on laissez-faire capitalism where regulation is scant and allows for the corruption of both business and government. Their unwillingness to face these facts makes them squarely center-right, where they give platitudes for social justice like kneeling kente cloths (which did fucking nothing at all, just symbolic bullshit) but also make conditions for social justice worse by allowing a two tiered justice system to flourish.

          • mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            3 months ago

            Nah it’s not just you, we get confused USians in here all the time 😄. Liberal parties are right of center in most countries i think. They certainly are here in Germany, in Australia the major conservative party is called the “liberal party of australia” just to name two examples.

            The confusion I think comes from the fact that the US only has two parties that kept drifting further and further right ever since WW2. The far right fascists and the center-right moderate right wing. So a lot of people look at the dems as the “left” wing since, relative to the only other party, they are. But if you look at the other parties, green party, dsa, psl etc. You’ll see that the dems are to the right of all of them.

            • Maeve@kbin.earth
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              3 months ago

              Also people have a hard time grasping the difference between economically left/right and socially the opposite. So it encourages throwing each other under the bus, like it’s necessarily a zero-sim game, which is rubbish.

                • Maeve@kbin.earth
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                  3 months ago

                  I hope if you happen upon it again, you’ll DM it to me. It would be so useful in discussions like these.

                  Wishing you happiness and health, fam.

          • Maeve@kbin.earth
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            3 months ago

            Or… Ah why’d they have to be the same word?

            American Exceptionalism.

            They’re so different.

            Not at all.

  • neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Poking through both /src/lib/blacklists.ts and the double-secret policy file that gets pulled on load (see snot flickerman’s comment on how to look at it), I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the end goal of blocking this specific set of keywords, fediverse peers, communities, users, etc.

    You’ve got radical right stuff in here with radical left stuff, lots of lie-peddling news outlets and state-backed propaganda sources as well. Lots of focus on Russian-sourced content, and some attention paid to American MAGA crap. It’s quite strange to find blahaj hostnames and users among them.

    My best guess is that this is a hammy attempt to make Tesseract a more bland beige version of fediverse content with the pointy jagged parts filed off. But porn is a-ok.

    Really weird choices.

    • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
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      3 months ago

      He still doesn’t get it.

      That’s not for him to decide. Ever. That’s for end users and mods and admin of instances. Not some random fucking interface.

      • Hildegard (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        3 months ago

        But random UI designers know best.

        If he actually cared about making the fediverse less toxic, there are ways to do that. Working with instance admins to create up to date filter lists would be valuable, effective, and something no one would take issue with.

        Or even being up front about it would have been fine. There is no mention of the blacklist on the main page of the github. If tesseract were a sanitized, curated fediverse client that described itself that way, it wouldn’t be an issue. Clear disclosure and consent count for a lot.

        Instead he literally built a trojan horse for the fediverse. Unjustifiable.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      3 months ago

      There’s certainly a subset on the Fedi who seem to desperately want it to become a massively popular thing that persists through the ages instead of small but deep and worthwhile community growth among those who do choose to participate. Will it last forever? Probably not, most things don’t. Friendster died before MySpace and people forget it even existed (I mean, it was legitimately terrible)

      It makes me wonder if this person thinks that they’re making the Fedi more palatable for “normies” or something.

      Because that’s what popularity always brings, a marginalization of already marginalized communities. This comic sums it up pretty well.

      Honestly, I think as long as we stay small and have our own community existing under the radar so to speak we have less likelihood of being invaded by even more numerous asshats than we already do. Lemmy or Piefed becoming massively popular could actually be a detriment, especially in terms of hosting costs, since most instances are funded via donations or the admins own personal income.

        • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          3 months ago

          I know this site was not designed this way but MetaFilter has always had a small one-time fee to get an account, because it puts weight on having the account and weight on being banned. It always helped keep out a lot of the riff-raff.

          • Sarah Valentine (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            3 months ago

            I hope you understand how similar that is to irl laws for which the only punishment is a fine, meaning it’s a law that only restricts poor people. Charging a fee for an account just assures people with money have a disproportionate say in things.

            • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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              3 months ago

              I dunno, $5 for a lifetime didn’t seem too restrictive to me as a poor person, but I understand what you’re saying and that’s definitely been a problem on MetaFilter at times for sure.

              However, that money does go to good things. They are officially a non-profit. They hold elections for admins and moderators and support staff. Admins, moderators, and support staff for MetaFilter are full time paid jobs, not volunteer gigs. So it’s got positives and negatives.

      • neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I’ve been a part of online communities for a long time. The ones I value most in retrospect were relatively small, niche and disconnected from grand global everything-platforms.

        The fediverse is a step towards an internet of a million weird micro communities, finding ways to talk to each other.

    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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      3 months ago

      Desperate centrists who believe the axiom that all of their beliefs represent reasonable moderate positions no matter what are some of the weirdest, most ingrown people next to rightwing chuds.

      • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        3 months ago

        I don’t think this is even something centrist, centrism is all about blandness, a la “whatever doesn’t offend people that aren’t batshit insane”.

        Maybe “centrist radicalism” is a better word, in that someone tries to gather everything crazy.

        As an anarchist/council communist, it is my belief that whether you are communist, socialist, christian democrat, liberal or not, as long as you oppose fascism and whatever’s more right wing, you’re my ally.

        Sure, with some I’ll agree much more, and coordinate more. But either way, either someone’s a fascist or is not. Those that aren’t, oppose fascism, and therefore must be called upon to grow labour’s democracy, as fascism is a danger to everyone, fascists themselves included.

        • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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          3 months ago

          I see what you are saying and I am not arguing some opposite radicalism, but where your approach fails is that nobody is a monolith, we are many people in many different situations and it matters which version of people we feed energy and validation into… thus we must be concerned with how within each of us there are many potential fascist selves and thus what it means to be an antifascist/normal decent adult as a verb is to commit to continually re-examining the growth of our feelings and ideas and pruning away the things that begin to become ingrown.

          Also, what is considered bland and what is considered radical are some of the most political battlefields in society.

  • happy_wheels@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Whelp that explains why I’m experiencing login-loop at the blahaj.lemmy.zone landing page… I liked the UI & UX of Tes. Oh well.

  • moonblades [she/faer]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    3 months ago

    After the Rimu fiasco I tried returning to Lemmy and found Tesseract to be my favorite frontend primarily because of the ability to create community lists w/o subscribing to them (the closest thing I found to Piefed Feeds).

    And then this happens…

    I’m going back to Reddit

    • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      3 months ago

      sorry for being dumb but what was the piefed thing? i switched to it cause i thought it was nice should i switch back? :v

      • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPM
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        3 months ago

        Piefed is opinionated software because Rimu puts his biases and preferences in to the final product. But Piefed makes them optional and puts the toggles in the place you would expect them so that admins can opt in or out of those decisions in a considered way.

      • moonblades [she/faer]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Several questionable features like “reputation” (basically karma) were added in PieFed on a opt-out basis creating lots of drama. Rimu (the main developer of the project) reacted poorly to this. Then he also got into another drama related to one of .world admins and got attention of the tankies. He ended up creating a built-in banlist of people who offended him, to his instance - except that it doubles as the flagship PieFed instance so it was widely seen as a bad move.

        The most recent drama was related to the ‘vote limit’ based on a observation that a small percent of people on threadiverse cast most votes on posts. He (somehow) thought it meant these people control what everyone sees so he ended up adding a limit on how many posts and comments each user can vote. It doesn’t affect most users but some very active users were really upset over it.

        There are posts on c/fediverse@lemmy.world on all these events if you want to know more about them.

      • moonblades [she/faer]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Unfortunately I don’t see Tess-like community grouping feature in Alexandrite, and it doesn’t even have a setting for the default comment sorting method.

        I don’t really like Tess’ UI design that much - I’m comfy with Lemmy’s default. It’s advanced features that I’m gonna miss. Alexandrite seems to be just as bare-boned as Lemmy’s UI.

        But I found info on Lemmy 1.0 that will be released eventually and has most features that I want so I probably just gotta wait a little until that day comes.

        • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          3 months ago

          That’s fair, I wasn’t aware of the advanced features. I didn’t like the Tesseract UI, so I immediately abandoned it after checking it out. Alexandrite had a similar appearance, with a UI I really like

      • UpperBroccoli@feddit.orgEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Fun fact: your name made the list, too:

                "^RockBottom",
        "^rockerface$",
        "^rockSlayer$",
        "^RockyDale([0-9]+)?$",
        "^RockyGlen([0-9]+)?$",
  • nature_man [he/they]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    3 months ago

    The fuck?? Why in the world is a front end blacklisting people or instances??

    ETA: This is literally the first thing I see after coming back from a break. Also, I’m so sorry you have to deal with this Ada, the dev sounds like a jackass

  • nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    3 months ago

    I’m a bit miffed that I’m not shadow blacklisted.

    But also wtf

    And lastly, porn is ok but GirlsFrontline is banned? Lol. It’s like an anime style game. Looks kinda stupid to me but i wouldn’t be shadow banning it