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    3 days ago

    And you just know that there will be those few idiots that actually take this serious

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          if it’s a partnership with microsoft, imo it’s an awful idea… to me it reads as:

          everyone knows linux is secure AF… way more secure than windows in many contexts, so it sets you up in the “wait this is BS” mindset

          the logical next step that you make, imo, is that the argument that closed source is more secure than open source in other contexts should be viewed with similar scepticism: office/libreoffice, onedrive/nextcloud, etc

          (which is true: closed source software is often far more insecure than open source software)

          • captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world
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            I don’t think everyone now anything about Linux, most people don’t know about computers in general.

            This is to me most likely targeted at those (alias Anna) how know someone (alias Bob) how knows about this (or similar). Bob tells Anna to install Linux because Windows 10 EOL, Anna says “no Linux bad because reasons, plz install Windows”, or some such.

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    A little off on the lines of code… it’s only around 20 million. I’d be a little worried if there was billions of lines of code, it would be unmaintainable slop.

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      LOC doesn’t inherently make things unmaintainable slop, as long as you have strong abstractions (which Linux certainly does)

      one could argue that most Linux distros have billions to trillions of LOC and their abstraction is packages, which are kinda a level of abstraction higher than libraries, which are just a level of abstraction higher than a folder of util functions

      things being “not my code” doesn’t mean it’s not part of your system

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        While you’re correct in a general sense, the linux kernel is what I was referring to, not the whole ecosystem of linux programs and repositories.

        If Hello World can be written in 1 line and someone comes along and presents a version written in 100-1000s of lines without any new features, I’m going to argue it’s unmaintainable slop.

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          and if a display driver can’t be written in 1 line that doesn’t make the thousands of lines unmaintainable slop

          some things just require more code

          i’d argue if the linux kernel were billions of LOC, then that’s just what’s necessary

          and necessity is probably relative at that point; many of your LOC are likely technically unnecessary abstractions to help with human understanding

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            and if a display driver can’t be written in 1 line that doesn’t make the thousands of lines unmaintainable slop

            That’s not what I’m saying.

            I’m saying if there’s 1000x more lines of code than necessary, it’s unmaintainable slop. I could understand 2x or even 10x the lines of code just being a difference in architecture, but even 100x is getting crazy.

            I think only EnterpriseFizzBuzz surpasses the 1000x inefficiency metric that this meme is implying.

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      Hey! I just finished beta release of my brand new AI developed word processor! It’s a single python script with just under 1 million lines of code! Isn’t that great?!!! 😸

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    Al those Linux geeks with their tails between their legs as they go back to the secure windows environment. Whose smug now guys? Hope your Linux subscription has a refund policy.

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          The border between Finland and Russia is 1,340km long. This has helped them become best of friends. They especially like to cuddle for warmth in the winter.

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            The nords and Russians have a long history of friendship. Here’s a representative friendly competition in sauna.

            On 7 August 2010, two competitors were removed from the sauna and brought to the hospital in critical condition after six minutes of 110 °C (230 °F) heat, both suffering from serious burns and trauma. Russian finalist and former third-place finisher Vladimir Ladyzhensky, an amateur wrestler, was dragged out, suffering from convulsions, burns, and blisters.[5][8] Ladyzhensky died despite resuscitation. Finnish five-time champion Timo Kaukonen was, according to a spectator, able to leave the sauna with assistance.[9] He was reported to suffer from extreme burn injuries and his condition was described as critical but stable.[10][11] Kaukonen’s preparation included hydrating meticulously and growing his hair long enough to cover the tips of his ears, making them less likely to burn.[6] Just a few minutes before the finals, Kaukonen told the Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang that the saunas used for the 2010 championship were a lot more extreme than the saunas used for previous competitions.[12] As Kaukonen and Ladyzhensky were disqualified for not leaving the sauna unaided, Ilkka Pöyhiä became the winner.[13]

            The organizer, Ossi Arvela, said that there will probably never be another sauna competition. Two days later the City of Heinola noted that there are no official decisions about the future of the event, and the decisions would be made after the incident has been examined.[14] Arvela later reported that Finnish police had decided not to file charges in connection with the tragedy, but were continuing to investigate.[8] Kaukonen woke up from a medically induced coma six weeks after the event. His respiratory system was scorched, 70% of his skin was burnt and eventually his kidneys failed as well. In late October, Kaukonen was reported to be recovering quickly. He did not blame the organizers for his injuries.[15]

            Ladyzhensky’s autopsy concluded that he had died of third-degree burns. His death was aided by his use of strong painkillers and local anesthetic grease on his skin, which was against the rules. Kaukonen was competing according to the rules.[16]

            On April 20, 2011, the City of Heinola announced that they would no longer organize the event, noting that “If the city was to organize the World Sauna Championships in the future, the original playful and joyous characteristics of the event should be reintroduced. No ways to achieve this have been found.”[17]