• boaratio@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    I’ll never forgive Obama for having a 60 vote majority in the Senate, and then passing the limp dick affordable care act. We could have single payer health care, but he just couldn’t resist the lobbying money from the insurance industry.

    Also, first extrajudicial killing of an American citizen. Also, enabling seal team 6 to commit countless atrocities and war crimes. Also, continuing to be milquetoast for 6 more years just to not make Republicans feel butt hurt.

    Barack Obama is the poster child for “vote blue no matter who.” I’m fucking sick of hearing about how he was a good president.

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      9 days ago

      He was a good president, **by comparison to Dubya and Reagan and Nixon and Truman. ** But everything you say is true. All presidents commit countless atrocities and are compromised. Unfortunately, a guy like Mr. Rogers has no interest in being president, and the majority of people don’t see the big picture and wouldn’t vote for him.

      When it comes to the majority of voters, you’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know – morons.

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      If you think he had 60 votes for single payer then you don’t know much about the US government

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        There were 60 democrats in the Senate. He had that for almost 2 years. I’ve worked with the US government, have been at the beck and call of the US government, and know how, sadly, it works. When Barack Obama had a senate super majority, he could have passed anything he wanted. Buuuuuuuuuut, the lobbyists won.

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          He “Had 60 Democrats” on paper only. There’s a 0% chance he had 60 votes to do anything really revolutionary. Enough Dems are on the payroll to make sure there’s never any real reform.

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            8 days ago

            They passed the ACA along party lines. He had the votes. Imagine how fucked w’ed be if Republicans had a 60 vote majority.

            Edit: I’m not a Republican or Republican supporter, but whenever they can seize the wheels of power they do it. Democrats never do anything even when they have the advantage because they don’t want to disrupt “social norms.” When was the last time Republicans had a super majority and laid down to Democrats just to keep things fair?

            I’m fucking sick of this both sides shit. Both parties are bad, but the Republicans are amazing at playing the long game. Where is the Democrat project 2025 or heritage foundation? Now we’re all fucked thanks to that. Which btw, the Republicans never deserve to drink at the fire hose of the heritage foundation. It’s just evil fueled with evil.

            I hate it here.

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              They passed the ACA by having to negotiate with DINOs like Joe Liberman:

              https://www.npr.org/2009/12/15/121452544/democrats-trade-off-to-get-60-health-care-votes

              The negotiation inside the Dems was as bad or worse than the one with the Republicans. They didn’t have 60 votes for single payer or any other real change.

              Democrats have never been able to vote as a unified bloc like the Republicans do. It’s easy to unite when your banner is something simple like “Democrats bad, Obama bad.” When it’s a complex issue like Healthcare and you’re dealing with people with different agendas it gets a lot harder. Especially when politicians are mostly bought and paid for as a feature of western democracy.