Yeah no thanks, he was the best president of my life but that ain’t saying much. He still had way too many major fuckups, killed way too many people, and had too many betrayals of the progressive ideals that got him the job in the first place. Besides that isn’t constitutionally possible but whatevs.
Thing is, I knew it from the start. I was disappointed, but only that ALL my predictions came true. When Obama walked out to that screaming crowd with his family after winning, and everybody thought America was entering a new era, I KNEW that it was all a con, and he’d be just as “effective” as Clinton, and the Buahes, and nothing much would change, and it didn’t.
All those milquetoast presidents from both sides were just softening us up for the real monster who would overthrow America for the Sociopathic Oligarchs.
Who tf care what you knew and predicted.
How is that relevant to any of us? How does you knowing anything at have any consequence or value to the conversations?
Stopped reading after first two sentences, which were about whatever your selfish sense of self worth and knowledge.
I offered my perspective, which is the entire point of this entire forum. Who are you to think you can be the self-appointed Lemmy Topic Sheriff, and decide whose posts are worthy of attention? I read 10 times more irrelevant comments than relevant comments, but I don’t waste my time telling those people to stop posting.
How arrogant and gross. Ew.
yeah, sort of like how the stock market always spikes right before it crashes, you gotta give people just enough that they can convince themselves everything is going to be great, right up until the last second in order to do a proper rug pull.
No third term presidents. At all. I don’t care who it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
It says you can’t be “elected” a third time. Nothing about just taking it.
I don’t think enough people are paying attention to that word…
I’ll never forgive Obama for having a 60 vote majority in the Senate, and then passing the limp dick affordable care act. We could have single payer health care, but he just couldn’t resist the lobbying money from the insurance industry.
Also, first extrajudicial killing of an American citizen. Also, enabling seal team 6 to commit countless atrocities and war crimes. Also, continuing to be milquetoast for 6 more years just to not make Republicans feel butt hurt.
Barack Obama is the poster child for “vote blue no matter who.” I’m fucking sick of hearing about how he was a good president.
If you think he had 60 votes for single payer then you don’t know much about the US government
There were 60 democrats in the Senate. He had that for almost 2 years. I’ve worked with the US government, have been at the beck and call of the US government, and know how, sadly, it works. When Barack Obama had a senate super majority, he could have passed anything he wanted. Buuuuuuuuuut, the lobbyists won.
He “Had 60 Democrats” on paper only. There’s a 0% chance he had 60 votes to do anything really revolutionary. Enough Dems are on the payroll to make sure there’s never any real reform.
They passed the ACA along party lines. He had the votes. Imagine how fucked w’ed be if Republicans had a 60 vote majority.
Edit: I’m not a Republican or Republican supporter, but whenever they can seize the wheels of power they do it. Democrats never do anything even when they have the advantage because they don’t want to disrupt “social norms.” When was the last time Republicans had a super majority and laid down to Democrats just to keep things fair?
I’m fucking sick of this both sides shit. Both parties are bad, but the Republicans are amazing at playing the long game. Where is the Democrat project 2025 or heritage foundation? Now we’re all fucked thanks to that. Which btw, the Republicans never deserve to drink at the fire hose of the heritage foundation. It’s just evil fueled with evil.
I hate it here.
They passed the ACA by having to negotiate with DINOs like Joe Liberman:
https://www.npr.org/2009/12/15/121452544/democrats-trade-off-to-get-60-health-care-votes
The negotiation inside the Dems was as bad or worse than the one with the Republicans. They didn’t have 60 votes for single payer or any other real change.
Democrats have never been able to vote as a unified bloc like the Republicans do. It’s easy to unite when your banner is something simple like “Democrats bad, Obama bad.” When it’s a complex issue like Healthcare and you’re dealing with people with different agendas it gets a lot harder. Especially when politicians are mostly bought and paid for as a feature of western democracy.
He was a good president, **by comparison to Dubya and Reagan and Nixon and Truman. ** But everything you say is true. All presidents commit countless atrocities and are compromised. Unfortunately, a guy like Mr. Rogers has no interest in being president, and the majority of people don’t see the big picture and wouldn’t vote for him.
When it comes to the majority of voters, you’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know – morons.
Y’all are funny, acting like there will ever be a fair election in the US without a second civil war.
Politely, do you think suggesting a president should run for a third term is remotely acting like the election will be fair?
No no no. Not Bring Back America.
Bring Back Competence, Obama’s smiling face with BBC in big bold lettering under it.
“We’re bringin’ sexy b(l)ack… those lame ass kiddy touchers don’t know how to act…”
Honestly, I’d be a big brain move for him to parody Trump and announce his 2028 election run.
Then MAGA would either have to accept Obama, or state that they can’t run for three terms. A response to which we can point to Trump.
“That’s different, Obama’s black.”
They’ve already come up with a crackheaded, baseless explanation. They say that it only applies to 2 consecutive terms.
Logic isn’t the play. They will say/do anything that gets them what they want. You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into in the first place.
So then Obama can run. Glad we settled that.
No, their “logic” is that a president is eligible for re-election only until they serve two consecutive terms, after which point they are no longer eligible.
They have to create a system that allows Trump to run but won’t allow Obama to run. He couldn’t stand losing to Biden, and he obviously re-lives that loss every day, but he would actually implode if he lost to Obama. And everyone around him seems to have the job of “keep Dear Leader from imploding.”
I propose the Bring Back America Campaign. The acronym works even better.
Lmao I definitely don’t want Obama back for multiple reasons.
It’s just here to piss off the MAGAs.
I would love it if the Lincoln Project was the one who started it. Theyre conservatives who fucking hate Trump.
Is take Obama over Trump or newsome. I’d prefer AOC though
Honestly I too would take Obama again at this point, heck I would vote for the great khan Pritzker and hunter Biden at this point
Mr political middle compromiser?
I think it’s about the trolling, not truly wanting Obama back in the seat.
I will gladly support the trolling.
No thanks. Not another centrist.
Between the 2 you’d vote for Trump or not vote?
Between the two? That’s easy, one is a fascist the other is not. I’m not happy about the DNC suicide pact, vote for us or else, but there are lots of other elections to address that.
If that happens; we all just [redacted] our landlords and see what happens after that.
Yeah, no you won’t
Fuck
, he’s a war criminal, and you’re demonstrating perfectly why even their own voters hate the Democrats and won’t be voting for them in the future.Nice
Still the best they’ve had in a long while
That’s a ridiculously low bar, though.
That’s like winning a spelling bee by being the only one to successfully spell “lamp”.
That it is
OMG What a retarded comment. Isn’t it time for you to have a little lay down… …in the middle of a busy motorway.
busy motorway?
Slurs fucking suuuck
Typical fucking liberal. Someone (correctly) criticizes Obama’s war crimes, so you call them an ableist slur and tell them to kill themself.
Do better.
“obama is a war criminal”
“go kill yourself you [ableist slur]”
thank u for demonstrating to the class why you’re called blue maga
After seeing this term used for years, this is probably the first time it even slightly made any sense. There is no bLuE mAgA. Because the actual maga cult is several million people. Not like 3000 weirdos total.
I don’t think most people on Lemmy are aware of how much of the far right conspiratards still believe that “the Kenyan” is actually still in charge. Even now, during Trump, everything bad is being done by Obama, the Manchurian candidate.
It’s always projection.
Michelle would leave and he loves her a whole lot more than he loves the rest of us.
You realize that Michelle could run?
🤣 I doubt there’s something she’d like to do less. I could see her doing it for the “greater good”, but I imagine it would be difficult for her.
Ah yes, let’s do the same thing we hate Trump for doing, breaking the law. Just liberal things
Ironically, the problem with liberals is their absolute obsession with “process”. It’s why they are hopeless in the face of fascism. They see the fascist breaking the process, ignoring it, laughing in their faces. But will not “go down to their level”.
It’s not something unexpected. Obama and his “legacy”. His legacy is Trump. His absolute failure as a president in the face of massive in equality, endless wars, and civil rights. Of course the liberals loved him. He did everything by the books, reached across the aisle, and left things to the absolute failure of a candidate that was Hillary Clinton. But they happily followed the “process” let themselves be blocked by a party over and over that did not care about it.
Say what you will about the Republicans. But, they actually have goals that they have met. Packed courts, secret police, concentration camps. They care about results.
Hell, a fucking bread tuber explained it perfectly 7 years ago.
They will watch liberal democracy burn before they take a single step outside of its “process” to protect it. They will side with the fascist over anyone that tries to resist them. The fascist after all will suddenly be very concerned about “the process” when the Democratic party voters start electing people with actual goals.
Well, they’ll be very concerned about “the process being violated” in these suddenly very suspicious elections. The establishment Democrat politicians and the fascist Republicans will suddenly work together to stop “communist” or whatever.
It’s happening now. The Democrats can’t seem to love Fox News enough these days. Complaining about these damn DSA candidates.
I’d say the problem with liberals is they’re class traitors, liars, and snakes. They don’t mind that their largest donors are also raping and murdering innocent children with our tax dollars. Liberals break the law all the time. They don’t mind bending process to fit their needs. They don’t mind what Trump and the traitor republicans are doing, that’s why they aren’t breaking the process.
Agreed. The liberals politicians are very much willing to serve the interest of fascist at this point. I would say that their voting base is still stuck in the same mindset that they have been conditioned into believing though. “Just one more injunction that’ll do it! We told them STOP IT!”
You probably already know how the history of liberalism developed, but it was developed during tumultuous periods in European history of constant warring due to differences in beliefs (as well criticism on government control on economy by mercantilism). So, modern day liberals have strong, almost co-dependence I would say, to sticking to “decorum” and “process” as you mentioned. I still see many liberals can’t fathom the possibility of a far right entrenchment and afraid to even consider of taking up arms or a civil war against a tyrannical government. That being said, to be fair to the liberal American founding fathers, they recognise the possibility of a tyrannical government and included the second amendment as last resort. However, many liberals are afraid to even consider taking arms if it comes to it (which is understandable because of the previous civil war), and think the next midterm elections won’t be interfered upon by Trump and his broligarchs.
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EvErYtHiNg I DoNt lIkE iS LiBeRaL
Is Obama not liberal?
I didn’t realize he made this post
I promise you that this is not the reason that I hate trump.
Trump breaking the law doesn’t make you hate him? I don’t understand.
I hate him cause he’s a rapist and a murderer and a shit head.
We have laws against all that.
And I would hate him for those reasons regardless of what the law says about it.
