Yeah no thanks, he was the best president of my life but that ain’t saying much. He still had way too many major fuckups, killed way too many people, and had too many betrayals of the progressive ideals that got him the job in the first place. Besides that isn’t constitutionally possible but whatevs.
Thing is, I knew it from the start. I was disappointed, but only that ALL my predictions came true. When Obama walked out to that screaming crowd with his family after winning, and everybody thought America was entering a new era, I KNEW that it was all a con, and he’d be just as “effective” as Clinton, and the Buahes, and nothing much would change, and it didn’t.
All those milquetoast presidents from both sides were just softening us up for the real monster who would overthrow America for the Sociopathic Oligarchs.
Who tf care what you knew and predicted.
How is that relevant to any of us? How does you knowing anything at have any consequence or value to the conversations?
Stopped reading after first two sentences, which were about whatever your selfish sense of self worth and knowledge.
I offered my perspective, which is the entire point of this entire forum. Who are you to think you can be the self-appointed Lemmy Topic Sheriff, and decide whose posts are worthy of attention? I read 10 times more irrelevant comments than relevant comments, but I don’t waste my time telling those people to stop posting.
How arrogant and gross. Ew.
yeah, sort of like how the stock market always spikes right before it crashes, you gotta give people just enough that they can convince themselves everything is going to be great, right up until the last second in order to do a proper rug pull.
No third term presidents. At all. I don’t care who it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
It says you can’t be “elected” a third time. Nothing about just taking it.
I don’t think enough people are paying attention to that word…
I’ll never forgive Obama for having a 60 vote majority in the Senate, and then passing the limp dick affordable care act. We could have single payer health care, but he just couldn’t resist the lobbying money from the insurance industry.
Also, first extrajudicial killing of an American citizen. Also, enabling seal team 6 to commit countless atrocities and war crimes. Also, continuing to be milquetoast for 6 more years just to not make Republicans feel butt hurt.
Barack Obama is the poster child for “vote blue no matter who.” I’m fucking sick of hearing about how he was a good president.
If you think he had 60 votes for single payer then you don’t know much about the US government
There were 60 democrats in the Senate. He had that for almost 2 years. I’ve worked with the US government, have been at the beck and call of the US government, and know how, sadly, it works. When Barack Obama had a senate super majority, he could have passed anything he wanted. Buuuuuuuuuut, the lobbyists won.
He “Had 60 Democrats” on paper only. There’s a 0% chance he had 60 votes to do anything really revolutionary. Enough Dems are on the payroll to make sure there’s never any real reform.
They passed the ACA along party lines. He had the votes. Imagine how fucked w’ed be if Republicans had a 60 vote majority.
Edit: I’m not a Republican or Republican supporter, but whenever they can seize the wheels of power they do it. Democrats never do anything even when they have the advantage because they don’t want to disrupt “social norms.” When was the last time Republicans had a super majority and laid down to Democrats just to keep things fair?
I’m fucking sick of this both sides shit. Both parties are bad, but the Republicans are amazing at playing the long game. Where is the Democrat project 2025 or heritage foundation? Now we’re all fucked thanks to that. Which btw, the Republicans never deserve to drink at the fire hose of the heritage foundation. It’s just evil fueled with evil.
I hate it here.
They passed the ACA by having to negotiate with DINOs like Joe Liberman:
https://www.npr.org/2009/12/15/121452544/democrats-trade-off-to-get-60-health-care-votes
The negotiation inside the Dems was as bad or worse than the one with the Republicans. They didn’t have 60 votes for single payer or any other real change.
Democrats have never been able to vote as a unified bloc like the Republicans do. It’s easy to unite when your banner is something simple like “Democrats bad, Obama bad.” When it’s a complex issue like Healthcare and you’re dealing with people with different agendas it gets a lot harder. Especially when politicians are mostly bought and paid for as a feature of western democracy.
He was a good president, **by comparison to Dubya and Reagan and Nixon and Truman. ** But everything you say is true. All presidents commit countless atrocities and are compromised. Unfortunately, a guy like Mr. Rogers has no interest in being president, and the majority of people don’t see the big picture and wouldn’t vote for him.
When it comes to the majority of voters, you’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know – morons.
Y’all are funny, acting like there will ever be a fair election in the US without a second civil war.
Politely, do you think suggesting a president should run for a third term is remotely acting like the election will be fair?
No no no. Not Bring Back America.
Bring Back Competence, Obama’s smiling face with BBC in big bold lettering under it.
“We’re bringin’ sexy b(l)ack… those lame ass kiddy touchers don’t know how to act…”
Honestly, I’d be a big brain move for him to parody Trump and announce his 2028 election run.
Then MAGA would either have to accept Obama, or state that they can’t run for three terms. A response to which we can point to Trump.
“That’s different, Obama’s black.”
They’ve already come up with a crackheaded, baseless explanation. They say that it only applies to 2 consecutive terms.
Logic isn’t the play. They will say/do anything that gets them what they want. You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into in the first place.
So then Obama can run. Glad we settled that.
No, their “logic” is that a president is eligible for re-election only until they serve two consecutive terms, after which point they are no longer eligible.
They have to create a system that allows Trump to run but won’t allow Obama to run. He couldn’t stand losing to Biden, and he obviously re-lives that loss every day, but he would actually implode if he lost to Obama. And everyone around him seems to have the job of “keep Dear Leader from imploding.”
I propose the Bring Back America Campaign. The acronym works even better.
Lmao I definitely don’t want Obama back for multiple reasons.
It’s just here to piss off the MAGAs.
I would love it if the Lincoln Project was the one who started it. Theyre conservatives who fucking hate Trump.
Is take Obama over Trump or newsome. I’d prefer AOC though
Honestly I too would take Obama again at this point, heck I would vote for the great khan Pritzker and hunter Biden at this point
Then another 2008 hits
Bush caused 2008, and Obama did a masterful job of pulling America out of it. I thought it would take 20 years to recover, but Obama did it in about 2.
masterful job of pulling America
Into biggest public debt increase in US history.
Mr political middle compromiser?
I think it’s about the trolling, not truly wanting Obama back in the seat.
I will gladly support the trolling.
The last US president who could actually spoke a full coherent phrase.
You would said that?
I would really like to hope that someday we can do better than Obama. Being the best president in recent memory isn’t an amazingly high bar and I’d really like to see a world where we have something better.
Especially with respect to foreign policy. And I know many folks don’t connect with why that’s a big deal, but one of my closest friends is Coptic and her people were targeted for ethnic cleansing by a militant faction in Egypt after Obama backed them, because our favorite foreign policy in the US is to back some militant group anytime what the government of a region is doing is even mildly inconvenient to us.
If you remember the men that Isis executed on the beach in video, in the first like beheading video that was a thing ages ago- those men were Copts. My friend has community members she considered family who are dead now back in Egypt. If I remember right she said the population dropped from like 15% of Egypt to 5% in a span of a handful of years.
The toll of horrifying american foreign policy is not just an abstract bogeyman leftist bring up to trash politicians you like, they have actual death tolls and leave behind people who are mourning. Its not even good foreign policy either, we’re radicalized half the world to hate our guts, which as it turns out is not the most geopolitically advantageous.
Wow, bruh that sucks. Thanks for sharing this info
Terror Tuesday was Obama’s favorite day of the week. He kept doing it for 8 years. He murdered people on the basis of whether they urinated sitting down, or standing.
Obama is a piece of shit.
Given the strict choice between Obama and literally anyone running as a Republican, I would choose Obama every single time. No doubt, no hesitation. Every time.
Don’t forget Obama also drone striked an American citizen, Anwar al-Awlaki. Fairly confident to say that targeting and killing an American citizen is the prime example of extra-judicial killing.
Sure, some people will be happy that an alleged terrorist was killed. However the legal justification by David J. Barron (Chief Legal Counsel) laid out the the groundwork for a future targeted extra-judicial killing of an American citizen.
You know who’s currently in the US crosshairs? Trans people, leftists, immigrants, and anyone who’s a non-White, cis, conservative, male.
And he’s still one of the best presidents in recent memory. Two things can be true at the same time.
Good comment. I agree with every word you said, just thought I’d point out for the random passerby that the Copts are one of the oldest Christian groups on the planet, said to have been introduced to Christianity by the apostle Mark – as in the author of the Gospel of St. Mark – himself.
I have known Copts myself, though not well, and was honored to visit one of their liturgical services many years ago: they are incredibly hospitable and welcoming people, and very kind to this stranger.
More people should be aware that what you are describing is a group of actual, sincere (and not just tediously performative) Christian people genuinely persecuted and dying for their religion by Isis, and also targeted by pseudo-Christians in US government for political expediency. And it goes unnoticed because few even know who the Copts are.
Yeah she frequently expresses her bewilderment at american Christianity lol 😅
We could agree to ignore the 22nd amendment for just 2028
Imagine this with the other Obama. A black woman that the MAGAts hate, on the Dems primaries.
