This design looks so cheap to me, it’s just a bunch of random covers, there is no information about the movies presented in any way, the covers are way too big and take up an inordinate amount of space and there is nothing breaking up sections, design is just so fucking dumb now, fuck mobile

rant over 😅

  • 0xDREADBEEF@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    more information = less engagement

    less engagement = quarterly OKRs get missed = team budget go down

    I’ve been in software too long

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    This along with the changes to de-emphasize things like watch lists or even “continue watching” is basically the providers seeing how much they can influence users to watch what the provider wants instead of trying to cater to the users. If they find that people rarely navigate away from whatever ‘top 10’ or ‘for you’ suggestions, well, that means they have a great deal of freedom to only provide what is convenient for them and still get most of their revenue.

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    Ironically the free-but-with-ads Tubi is the least bad when it comes to UI. They have categories with exhaustive lists, and even labels for movies highly rated on RottenTomatoes.

    Netflix sucked for a while (don’t have it anymore). Apple TV is absolute shit now (subbed for a month to watch a few shows)

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    It’s all about driving metrics now. If people need to click on/select a movie to see more about it then that adds numbers to page views and increases time spent in the app. They can also see who and how many do or don’t watch a movie after clicking on it to further drive their algorithms.

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      LOL hey Tanis, like there is zero design elements at all besides the number, no flair, no color, no focus stealer, decades of design out the window lol

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            I’m doing pretty good, going back and forth between playing Sea of Stars on my phone, and editing more of that photo weekend in Seattle!

            I hope I’m not annoying Lemmy’s photography community with how often I’m posting.

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              As a random butting in: you are not annoying me at all! Thanks for sharing your work

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                You’re very welcome! I do my best to put forth quality pictures. Eventually, I hope I can get exhibited in some galleries once in a while!

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                  Strange is my mana lol, I like it not only for the giraffe haha but the contast too not only the focus and color but the rusty machinery and the statue that looks like it might be from a merry go round… nice!

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    It’s part of the infuriating trend on removing all words from UIs. God forbid the kids learn how to read a movie title. Using modern apps means navigating a never ending stream of hieroglyphs. The “save”, “load”, “new”, “share” buttons are long gone; replaced with an ever changing series of symbols.

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      Am I looking at a different picture to all of you? Every single movie poster there has the name in plain English.

      Every.

      Single.

      One.

      Are you all illiterate?

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        A lot of posters have stylized script in varying sizes and contrast to the background that generally looked fine on big posters but can be hard to read on small icons on a screen.

        Just look at the Dune one in the example. Only the u and n are easy to see because the d and e habe no contrast with the background and the font is heavily stylized. Which Lord Rings and Hobbit movies are those? The subtitles are tiny as fuck.

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          You have to take the screen size into account. This isn’t a mobile view, this is meant for a big tv. Even on mobile if you look at it in a regular size you can easily and clearly read every single title.

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            On mobile the icons are about as big as my thumb. On a big screen they are about the size of my thumb held out at arms length. The ratio is basically the same and NO I cannot easily and clearly read every single title on mobile or at a distance, especially the three that I pointed out.

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              That’s not the mobile UI though. On mobile they’re significantly bigger than that, with far less on the screen at the same time.

              Like this:

              You gave trouble reading those on your phone? If you do I suggest going to see an optometrist and/or getting a much bigger phone and turn the resolution way down.

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                I didn’t say every single one was hard to read. You took a screenshot of the ones that are easy to read even when the thumbnail is the size of my thumb. What I said was there were plenty like the examples I pointed out for Hobbit and Dune where they were hard or impossible to read.

                You have trouble understanding the difference between a lot of titles and all titles? Maybe you should see someone who can teach you basic reading comprehension skills.

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                  I took a screenshot of the first screen. Weren’t you have a whinge saying that they’re all using the same boring plain white font, and now you’re whining when some use different fonts that you claim are harder to read? Which is it - do you want boring and easy to read, or fancy design that sacrifices UX?

                  With ones like the lord of the rings, you can clearly see that it is a lord of the rings film, so just click on it and see which one it is. How do you suggest the show “The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King” on the poster without it just being entirely big white text all over the poster?

                  Now what Netflix has makes it easy to distinguish between the movies the exact way OP wanted: using characters and plot points from the movies.

                  On your last statement, maybe you need to brush up on your common sense? There’s never going to be a UI that lets you easily read the full title, including sub-title, of every movie ever released, and its poster art, at every resolution from every viewing distance.

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    UI’s for movie streaming services are not designed to help you find something to watch. They are designed to keep you “engaged”, which means in the platform and not realizing that the pool of actually interesting things is about as deep as a puddle. Everything about streaming sites’ design is user hostile and this is a classic example of that.

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      Isn’t Jellyfin the same design as all the streaming platform and they have nothing to gain for keeping you engaged?

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        Almost, but it has movie titles under the poster/cover and usually pulls the actual movie covers.

        Once you click into it, it gives a shitton of detail about the movie.

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          Once you click into it, it gives a shitton of detail about the movie.

          Is this not the case with netflix/hbo? Sorry i never actually used any streaming service before other than Jellyfin so i don’t understand what is the issue here

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            Two things off the top of my head:

            • Jellyfin displays ratings from RT (and opencritic maybe?), while Netflix has stopped displaying their own user ratings years ago.

            • Jellyfin displays the full cast and crew. When you click an actor, director,… it shows you other media where they appear, even individual episodes. Netflix has none of that.

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        Jellyfin a) only has the content you feed it, so you already have some knowledge about it and b) you can expand it with plugins and make the design however you like it.

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        Jellyfin has like six different view types to pick from, including one that doesn’t even show images. And almost all the others show the title always visible below the preview image.

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        Yeah but they don’t have highly paid UX design teams, so they’re probably just copying design choices on the basis that they’re trying to offer people a similar experience they can own.

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          That’s bullshit. These are basic design principles they teach in every single design school in the world. You don’t need “highly paid design teams” you just need someone with some education.

          And this design philosophy has apparently invaded every single corporation on Planet Earth, so I really have no fucking idea where designers are even employed lately.

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            And this design philosophy has apparently invaded every single corporation on Planet Earth, so I really have no fucking idea where designers are even employed lately.

            That’s because they employ you and then force you to do bullshit things

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              I bought ice trays recently that had no way to stack, and literally shattered the second time I tried removing ice. Ice trays. ICE. FUCKING. TRAYS. WEVE HAD ICE TRAYS FOR LIKE 100 GODDAMN YEARS. WHY ARE WE STILL STRUGGLING WITH DESIGNING ICE TRAYS???

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    Those movie posters are for people who have already seen the movie or at least of knowledge of the story.

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    You said it. Dogshit.

    I’m so glad I’ve spent hte las tyears backing up the file of pretty much every bit of media I enjoy, because it’s the visual equivalent of nails on a chalkboard.

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    I’m finding myself having to guide people through UIs that have random symbols instead of an obvious word that says what it does.

    It’s annoying and getting worse.

    You can easily use a word button to point to a side out menu with words, all language localised, that will actually make sense to a user instead of causing a tech anxiety attack!

    I shouldn’t have to scout and translate a UI for someone. If there’s one bright side to all the AI being pushed at users is that it’s at least able to communicate with actual text, and usually wants to be user-friendly instead of hostile.

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      I’m not seeing the relevance here? Where are the symbols that need translating here? Every single movie has the name written on it in plain English.

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      One of the programs I use at work had an overhaul recently. I wanted to find some notes from a previous day and couldn’t figure out how. I asked someone to help and they told me to click some symbol in the corner of the page. I didn’t even know it was supposed to be a button, hovering over it doesn’t say what it does. It looked kind of like [ iii ] which tells me absolutely nothing about its functionality.

      The overhaul was supposed to make things easier.

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      UIs that have random symbols

      My favorite was the Windows Phone interface circa 2011 or so. They had a “save” button (I forget what you actually had to save on a phone) that was the standard floppy disk icon (ironic for a phone) except it was elongated and leaning to one side. When I first saw it, I thought it was a semi trailer tipping over and couldn’t imagine what it was supposed to be for.

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    We were discussing how nice it was in the good old days to go into a rental shop and just look for movies based on the covers. Sure this design doesn’t really hit that itch but more information is not always better.

    It’d be nice to just have a bunch of movies that are just random within their main category. No algorithms or marketing.