I think we need more moths
Always wanting more moths, never planting more lamps. smh my head
Shitty clickbait! We will never know what happened to that poor hiker!
Well, he didn’t get to the hospital via helicopter!
He saved money and everyone clapped
Everyone clapped… until they didn’t get universal healthcare…
pretty sure i read that the guy is a nurse too… so what does that tell ya lol
Knew how to walk ten miles while Impaled?
that he would still rather walk 10 miles than pay for an airlift (a nurse is very likely to have decent insurance as well)
And being a nurse had had seen so many people screwed by insane bills
part of the reason we’re in the mess we’re in with people being screwed by bills is that so many folk that either (1) didn’t know how to do their jobs or (2) would gladly accept money to do a job and then just not do it entered the nursing profession. fucked up the coding on that bill? nah, it’s not the practice’s problem to deal with the practice’s errors, it’s the patient’s!
I remember when my ex wife got her first LPN job on the way to her BSN. I thought for sure once she worked in a hospital it would have good insurance. It’s actually crazy how terrible the insurance is for medical employees. I had a way better plan available to me working for a ~100 person remodeling company, and it wasn’t a union gig either.
Hey I already pay so much for my healthcare premiums I can’t afford to pay for universal healthcare too.
lol Dudes, just bc it’s not got /s at the end, I don’t think you be taking this comment seriously. Obvious satire is obvious.
You already pay more than what universal healthcare would be.
To everyone that downvoted this, I’m pretty sure dude is being sarcastic.
The Budj Bim Cultural Landscape in southwestern Victoria is home to one of the oldest and most extensive aquaculture systems on Earth, built by the Gunditjmara people to farm kooyang — the short-finned eel (Anguilla australis).
About 6,600 years ago — and possibly much earlier — the Gunditjmara used the basalt rock from ancient lava flows of the Budj Bim volcano to construct a sophisticated network of channels, weirs, dams, and ponds across roughly 100 square kilometres around Lake Condah. Some stone channels were dug up to 200 metres long to divert water and exploit seasonal water-level changes, creating a managed wetland factory that trapped, stored, and harvested migrating eels.
https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1577/
https://www.eit.edu.au/the-ancient-aboriginal-engineering-of-the-budj-bim-eel-traps/
Ok, whatever dude.
You would have to provide sources, but I’d allow it.
As I said in another thread: Even if cost weren’t a factor, if I can walk out of there it’s a waste to use a helicopter.
I mean this truly: may you never share a predicament anything like the one described.
China, the second most major country, also considers healthcare as a human right
That’s the slippery slope they were all worried about.
Can’t be havin no goddamned commie human rights
Even countries with universal health insurance usually won’t cover helicopter rescue, you need travel insurance which covers mountaineering expeditions. Or you can just pay, it’s like 5k I’ve heard.
My wife was air lifted via fixed wing aircraft. The 45 min. flight was $55,000. Insurance covered $11,000.
Well, at least she wasn’t on Spirit Airlines.
You had to pay $44,000 out of pocket for a single flight?!
No. What happened was my wife worked for probably two years to get the insurance company to pay the full bill or have the ambulance company reduce it.
In case anyone here doesn’t know, never pay the first bill you get. Wait until the final bill. The insurance company and the provider keep negotiating and the price comes down, often in a significant way.
Anyway, the air ambulance service refused to reduce and just said they didn’t negotiate. That was just what they charge. The insurance company just kept saying that they already paid and weren’t going to pay more. Mind you after the $124,000 hospital bill, we had reached her out-of-pocket maximum of $16,000, which we did pay. Mind you, my wife was unconscious and actually never agreed to be airlifted. When it looked like they were going to sue us for the rest of the bill, my wife’s employer agreed to pay the bill for us. They were self insured and not happy with the carrier they had chosen. This apparently wasn’t the first issue they had had with their employees. It was a non profit and we were grateful for their kindness.
Also, we had the same problem with the ground ambulance which charged $1600 to drive her from the airport to the hospital, a distance of about 2 miles. You can literally see the hospital from the airport.
Also on a related note, since we had paid our maximum family out of pocket, I opted to have a recommended colonoscopy at that time. That’s when we found out that I am NOT family. Family=children. I’m a spouse and had to meet my own out-of-pocket maximum. It’s a really great system.
Sounds awesome indeed…. And this maximum is yearly?
We have a mandatory out-of-pocket maximum (set by the government) of ~ €400, which, if you don’t expect to use much health care, you can increase to ~ €900 in exchange for a reduction in your monthly fee. Still, some people complain about that maximum, but I think they would complain a lot less if they knew a little more about the US system.
My girlfriend had to be air lifted by helicopter in New Zealand. They didn’t want our insurance details, because their local insurance covered us already. This was in 2010, so no idea of this would still apply.
Brazil does it
Norway covers it. We regularly see news about foreign tourists who either take stupid risks and have to be airlifted down, or tourists who book a night at one of the mountain cabins and then trigger a whole red cross search party with two helicopters when they don’t show up. So to those who consider mountaineering in Norway: be responsible, plan ahead, make sure you can contact someone if you change plans midway. It’s public money going towards your search & rescue.
Honestly… California pays a ton in rescuing stuck folks who got themselves into deadly situations… I’m really torn but I do think they have some responsibility in that.
People don’t think California be like it is but it do
In Canada we have universal healthcare but also ambulance fees. The healthcare may be free, but getting to it isn’t.
Call a designated driver?
Screw that! Medicare costs money. I want mine covered by the taxes I already pay. Just cut out the wars and we’re good.
Are you kidding me!? I love paying taxes for Medicare that I’ll never get, as well as premiums to for profit health insurance that rejects the tests that my dr wants. Oh and I love that I still have to pay even more out of pocket when I get some odd bill six months later.
Why on earth would anyone in their right mind want to give that up!?
Just cut out the wars
did someone besmirch my precious money hole
Sources about U.S. being the worst at health care in the world?
Source: Am American. Almost died from fucking gallstones.
Exactly.
And I would walk 500 hundred miles and I would walk 500 more… to avoid ambulance cost
People starting the Camino de Santiago from Saint Jean Pier de Port sing this song too.
You sure pissed me off trying to hit the voting button, OP!
(Good shitpost)
For the record, if anyone is in a serious situation and needs rescue, SAR is free in the US. A medical helicopter, on the other hand, is not.
It depends. SAR in my state is coordinated by our Fish & Wildlife Department and staffed with volunteers.
They will bill you if they determine you willfully caused the situation leading to you having to be extracted.
SAR?
Search and rescue
