Hey man let the deaf people have one. No need to make about yourself.
Screw them! Not like they can see what we type anyway!
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Great band!
The Konami Code?
Indeed! A UK band from the early 2000s.
https://piped.video/watch?v=eEX4RETLPgE
(Incase the piped link doesn’t work https://youtu.be/eEX4RETLPgE)
I had no idea. Thanks for the link!
Directions unclear, stealing third base
This made me curious how many words in ASL (and other sign languages) can be made just using the hand emojis. 🤔
afaik 🤟 is the only emoji based off an ASL sign so I don’t think there’s many
Not many.
It’s a shit film anyway
That’s either “sign language doesn’t work with our speech-to-text algorithm and we’ll be throat fucked if we hire an actual person to do a job” or some massively pretentious statement about accessibility in media.
More likely it’s a technical goof, somebody not folding the full English (and other language) subtitles into the streaming container.
One masquerading as the other
What the fuck is it called? I don’t see the answer once in this thread.
A Quiet Place
Is that Jim from The Office!?
I want there to be a film with both Tim and Jim sitting at a desk pulling reaction faces to camera at everything going on.
Who’s Tim?
Original Jim from the UK version of The Office
I believe his name is Bilbo Watson
CIA Jim, yes
Didn’t he also play CIA Agent Jack Ryan?
He does a good job of it
He couldn’t stay in Athlead forever.
I thought Jim was asian???
You might have him confused with White Josh.
Yeah season 21 is crazy, they took a hard sci fi turn about 10 seasons ago and now everyone is split up. They made a whole cinematic universe and its very confusing. Jim was a CIA agent for a while and now he’s a post apocalyptic survivor. IMO they’re making the character do too much, bir I guess that’s what happens when you run out of ideas ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i was really there for dwight’s arc as unexpected the heir to the massive hairbo gummy bear empire. his big move for the recipe from high fructose corn syrup tp beet sugar was brilliant.
i’ve just started the creed season - no spoilers!
It takes a pretty hardcore film goer to learn a whole language just to watch a movie.
For a decade tech has fucked sub’s accessibility. The landscape is a complete mess, simultaneously stuck with tech that is too old and also suffering from awful implementation of new tech (LLMs suck at closed captioning but everyone insist it is the only way to do it now). Yet context reading to know who needs subs when is still so archaic and depends completely on user input. But then, the content is always innadecuate, specially when it’s for the hearing impaired.
Yeah I’ve noticed a lot of llm subs on streaming platforms and I’m like bro wtf the stuff you download is better than this. How can you be the one making the thing and not put accurate fucking subtitles on it. It’s pathetic. I mean are have the llm do the heavy lifting but you’ve still gotta proof it ffs.
Yes but think about how diverse it is
DEI is a good thing, actually.
Its a bad thing, but it’s less bad than the thing it’s trying to solve. We should look forward to a scenario where DEI is obsolete.
Why do you think DEI is a bad thing?
Oh I sure do look forward to the well-reasoned and deeply nuanced explanation you’re certain to get in response to that question.
Lol i was expecting something, too, but the answer is actually quite reasonable
It’s civil which was nice, but it’s also an argument that is (charitably) extremely poorly thought through. It’s just an appeal towards free-market regulation, which in an ideal world does work great but we have hundreds of years history (and the fact that I do not have a pet dragon) that establishes this is not an ideal world and it would not in fact work great.
It’s a good, optimistic, hope-for-the-future thought yes - but they’re using that to justify badmouthing DEI policies which is both incredibly counterproductive and pretty suspect.
They are not really though, they are still agreeing that it is necessary, just that they wish it wasn’t. Which the people DEI is supposed to support would probably agree to
Because it only makes sense because employers can’t be trusted to hire equitably. It is a thumb on the scales, and so is an injust act, but is currently necessary due to bad hiring practices.
Hopefully we can grow out of this and employers will just hire the best people for the job, regardless of personal circumstance.
You seem to think DEI is when employers have to meet a diversity quota, when in reality, it upholds laws stating employers can’t make any hiring decisions based on race or any other such demographic.
The D in DEI literally stands for diversity though. But you’re probably right and they are thinking of affirmative action
Diversity, Equality, Inclusion. The acts support diversity by barring exclusion on grounds of demographics and demanding equality by barring the use of demographic information as part of the hiring process. DEI does not define any minimum diversity metrics.
Compared to good writing?
We aren’t helping anyone by shoehorning random diversity stuff into cheap ass media. Sure we might have 20 out of place same sex relationships but god forbid if they were to touch on difficult topics. The people at the top make wild choices and are then rewarded because is supports the executives ideas about “diversity.” In practice diversity is really just a marketing to make us forget about all the systemic problems in the world.
In what world are same-sex relationships not a difficult topic, because I would very much like to move there.
If anything they’re reinforcing that it’s a difficult topic
Compared to good writing?
I’m sorry, I missed the part where its a tradeoff.
Also, what makes a same-sex relationship “out-of-place”? Gay people exist everywhere, my dude.
I am conflicted here. On the one hand, I agree that subtitles would have been nice. On the other hand, I think folks with hearing disabilities get shut out of other content so much that I don’t think this somewhat solitary case makes it good mildly infuriating material. It’s most likely just an oversight. Much less likely a clever scheme to highlight ableism.
I mean, by US law (back when analog TV was standard) all TV broadcasts had to include closed captions on scanline 23(?) for people with hearing disabilities. it was part of the vertical blanking interval so it didn’t interfere with the regularly visible broadcast. It is good to include subtitles for all dialogue, spoken in the local dialect, in a foreign dialect, and even the various sign languages. That’s isn’t to say that yes, I fully agree that differently abled people should be able to take part in the dialog and should have accommodations where needed.
Semi related, did you know American sign language is closer to French sign language than it is to British sign language?
>Semi related, did you know American sign language is closer to French sign language than it is to British sign language?
Because of Laurent Clerc & Thomas Gallaudet :)
Yes, I did hear that before.
On the one hand
heh
Eff me, that wasn’t intended!
As a deaf person, why not ? :)
so you’re against accessibility?
I don’t think they are against it. I think this is just a rather dark humour way to say this is my everyday normatively
Nope. That show you my daily life.
I get your point bit if anyone is trying to draw attention to the plights of deaf people, this is not the way how to do it
If I want to see this movie, I’ll get very annoyed, turn it off within 5 minutes and I’ll chrcl something else. Where is the attention now?
Than how ? You just discovered it. There are plenty movie with subtitles but at least you get the experience of our daily life in 2 minutes and there is a post about it on Lemmy.
That’s not the best experience but it worked.
Most of time we won’t understand when you talk. Few people will do the effort to write on a paper. And there is a lack of subtitle, we are forced to go through various stressful situations.
So, i love that it show you the other side, that you get this experience once in your life because most of time, people don’t care. They aren’t deaf and ignore it since it don’t concern them. They have no idea how many movies, podcasts, dramas, meetings, appointements, parties, course…are inaccessible to us. They just call, talk and live on.
Yeah it is a shame, but i hope you will be a little more aware and join us :)
Maybe you missed the point.
Then there are the shows too cheap to make real subtitles and instead use auto generated ones that can’t handle accents or names.
The worst is when you’re watching something with subtitles (in your own language because it’s hard to hear sometimes), then someone on screen speaks a different language with the subtitles hardcoded into the video.
Great, right?
Well no, because Amazon’s (or Netflix etc, they all do it) subtitles have a big “[Speaks German]” up the entire time, blocking the hard coded subs entirely so you cannot see what they say without temporarily disabling subs. Like bitch, I KNOW THEY ARE SPEAKING GERMAN, MOVE THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY SO I KNOW WHAT THEY’RE SAYING
It’s so fucking stupid and infuriating. How have they not addressed this shit?
Yeah I remember Man in the High Castle was really terrible with subtitles. It didn’t have hard-coded subtitles at all and the programmatic ones didn’t work reliably. So I’d be sitting there and and thinking “ok am I not supposed to know what they’re saying?” After the scene goes on for a while it becomes “yeah I definitely supposed to know what they’re saying well I guess I have to mess with subtitle settings.” Sometimes it wouldn’t work at all and I’d have to open a ticket with Amazon Prime and wait until they got it working.
So I guess they gave up on fixing subtitles and just baked them in. But still fucked it up anyway. Apparently a company as big as Amazon still can’t do QA on the use case of someone who’s an english speaker just watching on their platform. It’s sad.
I get a special kind of mad when I watch a foreign film in its original language. Turn on that language’s subtitles and the subtitles don’t match what’s being verbally said because apparently the subs have been translated into English then back into the original language so nothing matches and everything sucks. Or worse when they’ve translated some idiom for American audiences and have translated that idiom back so what’s being said makes zero sense.
Whenever I watch anything in Japanese with my boyfriend, we put on English subtitles for him. Meanwhile, I spend most of the time screaming internally “THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY SAID. THIS IS NOT WHAT ANYONE IS SAYING!?!” instead of actually enjoying the show.
This is an accessibility issue and the FCC takes it pretty seriously. Captions must be accurate, complete, synchronized (or as close to as possible), and (this is the important one in this case) cannot obscure important information on the screen.
It’s a pretty easy form, but they do want a lot of details.
https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=36040
“cannot obscure important information”
The FCC is American though. Anything in a “foreign language” is clearly not important information to them.
Maybe not, but cares deeply about “equivalent experience “ which this case is not.
The FCC regulates closed captions on over the air broadcast television.
They’re not going to regulate the Internet streaming services.
Sometimes for fun I’ll watch it foreign language movie I’ll turn on English dubbing and run subtitles as well. It’s really hilarious how different the two will be
Oh I hate that. Netflix animes are super bad about it. I wish they’d have the subbed English dub as well instead of a translated sub.
It happens on Jellyfin too but probably because the subs and videos are pulled from the same source
The only time a “[speaks German]” type of subs is acceptable is when the audience is not supposed to understand what’s being said. Obscuring the hardcoded subs with that bullshit is absolutely infuriating.
Sometimes, and specifically on Amazon prime, if a show / movie has hard coded subs (for sign or other foreign languages) you will need to turn off the optional subtitle setting.
Of course then, when someone does speak out loud you won’t get your normal subs until you turn the setting back on. I used to put in a new complaint for each show that it happened on until i canned prime altogether and went back to pirating all their content.
Its really weird that they do that. Like I would have assumed that the hardcoded subs were part of the video.
Germany adds the funky police that sometimes only German subtitles are allowed no matter the audio language you pick. So if there are no German-language subtitles because none were ever made, well you’re shit out of luck now, fuck you and your subtitle needs! 😐
