Trying to divine Russia’s True Motivations for invading Ukraine is a total Red Herring side show distraction in the context of this discussion.
The problem we’re discussing is that tankies employ definitions gymnastics to escape giving traditionally capitalist negative labels to their beloved authoritarian dictatorships, like “imperialist” and “tyrant.”
“Russia is not imperialist because they only invade for irredentist reasons” and “Russia is not imperialist because they oppose imperialist nations” are both half-cooked, dumb assertions.
It doesn’t matter if Russia invades other countries and takes their resources because they think the Bible says they should, because there are people with similar genetics in neighboring countries, or because Putin is bored; it’s still imperialist.
Imagine if someone said the USA is not imperialist because they’re only bombing Iran to fulfill a biblical prophesy, so they’re actually just theocratic. That’s obviously a ridiculous thing to say and you wouldn’t jump in to defend them because you’re biased to defend tankies but not western capitalists.
I’m not interested in discussing anything else with you until you answer my other comment, because it seems to me that you just blatantly lied claiming you didn’t label the other user a tankie. If you blatantly lied about that conversation, then I should expect you’ll lie about this one too. Even now you’re labelling them a tankie again, after claiming not to.
TL;DR: “This comment you just made explains away my confusion so I refuse to respond to it because I am (pretending to be) confused about the other comment you made.”
Oh look, you’re lying about this conversation too, just like you did the other one! I should know better than to engage with you liberals in good faith.
Any reader can see you’re playing silly games. Allow me to make for one less reader of yours thanks to the beautiful Lemmy feature known as: Block.
+1 in the bucket for my ongoing internal question of “Should I just block lemmy.ml?” Socialists are usually pretty cool, but it seems the tankies tend to flow from lemmy.ml more than other instances.
You’re one reader, actually, but I applaud you for saying something. That said, your instance is no coincidence. Obviously tankies are going to back tankies no matter what; that’s one of the defining characteristics of a tankie.
Before I consider your opinion, please attempt this tankie-screening captcha:
Is there a genocide of the Uyghurs going on right now and is it the fault of the CCP?
Did the Holodomor happen and was it a manmade famine perpetrated by the USSR?
Is the Kim dynasty of the DPRK a hereditary dictatorship wherein there is brutal violence and starvation to suppress dissidence to enforce the strict hierarchy of the regime?
Lol, that’s incredibly rich when this whole conversation happened because you dismissed someone as a tankie for condemning Russia but in the wrong way.
I’m not interested in discussing anything else with you until you answer my other comment, because it seems to me that you just blatantly lied claiming you didn’t label the other user a tankie.
That’s because you have difficulties reading and comprehending English or logic.
Even now you’re labelling them a tankie again, after claiming not to.
I actually agree with you on that. However, “being too prone to using Marxist definitions and terminology” does not warrant labelling them as a “tankie” or “Russian propagandist.”
That’s not what I was asserting, no.
Claiming that it’s a blatant lie after I described you calling them a tankie and you replied “that’s not what I was asserting,” wtf you’re just trolling.
Claiming that it’s a blatant lie after I described you calling them a tankie and you replied “that’s not what I was asserting,” wtf you’re just trolling.
You described why I called them a tankie, and your why was wrong.
It’s not trolling, you’re just too thick or bad at English reading to figure it out.
Hell, you don’t even read my comments before you downvote them and you call me the troll? Blocking you unless my most recent comment is an eye-opener and you apologize or get back on topic.
I read all your comments before down voting them, and for the record I’m a native English speaker with a degree. It’s not my fault if you communicate unclearly and then refuse to clarify because “you don’t respect me.” And that when you finally did clarify, you explained that you didn’t call them a tankie for being too prone to Marxist definitions, but for using “definition gymnastics,” which entailed… being too prone to Marxist definitions.
Trying to divine Russia’s True Motivations for invading Ukraine is a total Red Herring side show distraction in the context of this discussion.
The problem we’re discussing is that tankies employ definitions gymnastics to escape giving traditionally capitalist negative labels to their beloved authoritarian dictatorships, like “imperialist” and “tyrant.”
“Russia is not imperialist because they only invade for irredentist reasons” and “Russia is not imperialist because they oppose imperialist nations” are both half-cooked, dumb assertions.
It doesn’t matter if Russia invades other countries and takes their resources because they think the Bible says they should, because there are people with similar genetics in neighboring countries, or because Putin is bored; it’s still imperialist.
Imagine if someone said the USA is not imperialist because they’re only bombing Iran to fulfill a biblical prophesy, so they’re actually just theocratic. That’s obviously a ridiculous thing to say and you wouldn’t jump in to defend them because you’re biased to defend tankies but not western capitalists.
I’m not interested in discussing anything else with you until you answer my other comment, because it seems to me that you just blatantly lied claiming you didn’t label the other user a tankie. If you blatantly lied about that conversation, then I should expect you’ll lie about this one too. Even now you’re labelling them a tankie again, after claiming not to.
TL;DR: “This comment you just made explains away my confusion so I refuse to respond to it because I am (pretending to be) confused about the other comment you made.”
Oh look, you’re lying about this conversation too, just like you did the other one! I should know better than to engage with you liberals in good faith.
Nope.
Any reader can see you’re playing silly games. Allow me to make for one less reader of yours thanks to the beautiful Lemmy feature known as: Block.
+1 in the bucket for my ongoing internal question of “Should I just block lemmy.ml?” Socialists are usually pretty cool, but it seems the tankies tend to flow from lemmy.ml more than other instances.
Any reader here
hcso is full of shit and we all see it.
You’re one reader, actually, but I applaud you for saying something. That said, your instance is no coincidence. Obviously tankies are going to back tankies no matter what; that’s one of the defining characteristics of a tankie.
Before I consider your opinion, please attempt this tankie-screening captcha:
Is there a genocide of the Uyghurs going on right now and is it the fault of the CCP?
Did the Holodomor happen and was it a manmade famine perpetrated by the USSR?
Is the Kim dynasty of the DPRK a hereditary dictatorship wherein there is brutal violence and starvation to suppress dissidence to enforce the strict hierarchy of the regime?
You said any reader am I not a reader?
Jesus Christ you sound like trump saying he’s winning the Iran war. Just keep insisting your right and everyone agrees with you.
If it looks like the opposite why it must be rigged! Quick block those pesky tankies! They’re cheating!
The worst kind of idiot is the kind that never realizes they’re an idiot because they can never learn or grow.
“Before I consider your opinion” fuck off you clearly don’t consider much of anything.
Troll.
“Anyone who pops my echo chamber bubble is a troll.”
Lol, that’s incredibly rich when this whole conversation happened because you dismissed someone as a tankie for condemning Russia but in the wrong way.
That’s because you have difficulties reading and comprehending English or logic.
Speaking of blatant lies…
Claiming that it’s a blatant lie after I described you calling them a tankie and you replied “that’s not what I was asserting,” wtf you’re just trolling.
You described why I called them a tankie, and your why was wrong.
It’s not trolling, you’re just too thick or bad at English reading to figure it out.
Hell, you don’t even read my comments before you downvote them and you call me the troll? Blocking you unless my most recent comment is an eye-opener and you apologize or get back on topic.
I read all your comments before down voting them, and for the record I’m a native English speaker with a degree. It’s not my fault if you communicate unclearly and then refuse to clarify because “you don’t respect me.” And that when you finally did clarify, you explained that you didn’t call them a tankie for being too prone to Marxist definitions, but for using “definition gymnastics,” which entailed… being too prone to Marxist definitions.