• Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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      9 days ago

      People are just dumb. How can it trickle down if it hasn’t overflown yet? We need to give the top 1% more money, so that overflows and starts trickling down! It’s basic economy!

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        9 days ago

        I know, it’s been 45 years of trickle down economics and the economic equality has gotten worse each year. People just love to believe that they somehow will be part of the 1% magically one day.

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    8 days ago

    I will say, if we get universal health care the last team I’d want to implement would be the current administration

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    9 days ago

    There was a community gathering in support of a rural hospital that’s in danger of closing specifically due to medicaid cuts. Some of the attendees had signs and one of them said something like “Healthcare for All”. Shit you not, 3 different vehicles that drove by shouted out the window some variation of “How are we going to pay for it?”

    Of course those drive-by naysayers never stop to actually discuss it with folks.

    Keep in mind, these specific people are almost certainly locals whose friends and family will ultimately be negatively impacted by the closure of the hospital and we were there trying to make sure the community knows what’s happening, why it’s happening, and what they might be able to do to avoid it closing.

    Go figure.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      9 days ago

      How are we going to pay for it is an example of a thought terminating cliché. Much like It’s just a theory referring to biological evolution. There are mountains of arguments to be made to the contrary, but for the indoctrinated individual, the phrase is enough.

      See also, the clobber passages in the bible regarding LGBT+ folk (specifically gay men). Scholars might explain what they mean, that their intent is not for committed same-sex relationships as they appear in modern society, or that biblical mores are generally not applicable to modern society (for example its full endorsement of slavery). But none of that matters to the loyal indoctrinated cult follower, whose thinking terminates at the passage itself.

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      We already have paid for it, but our money is being mismanaged by the fucking idiots that those idiots keep voting in.

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    So if medicaid pays for the cancer treatment, someone in the medical industry would get paid. Surprised that the medical industry is not lobbying harder for that. What’s the point of charging and bankrupting the average Joe, as if there’s much money there?

    You’d think keeping your citizens (your tax base) healthy would generate the most tax revenue?

    • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
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      Because the docs and execs at the hospital still get their big nut, the raises and bonuses and zero impact to their benefits or retirement.

      It’s everyone else at the hospital that feels the cuts; elimination of benefits, no raises, bonuses “suspended”.

      Source worked for nonprofit hospitals for 2 decades…

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      9 days ago

      Just a reminder that it was reported two years ago that Mossad was entirely embedded into the upper echelons of Iranian government.

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      8 days ago

      And the $2 billion he wants to give to his Insurrectionist Traitors to fight for him again in 2028, and keep him in office.

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    But there’s only one Elon, only one Bibi. If you pay for one Joe you have to pay for them all, and that’s a lot!

    Anyway millions and billions are peanuts now. The Iran war is at about 1.5 trillion dollars so far, and you can guess who on the list that benefits.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      The Iran war is at about 1.5 trillion dollars so far

      The entire military industrial and state surveillance budget for the year is $1.5T. The Iran War specifically is running somewhere south of $100B… so far.

      Of course, that’s $100B we were told couldn’t go towards public education or universalizing Medicare or domestic commuter rail or energy efficiency improvements to curb infrastructure costs or any amount of ecological mitigation from all the Drill Drill Drill we’ve been doing.

      Instead, it’s given us a global supply chain crisis and a new asset bubble and a bunch of banged up air bases and naval vessels. And, of course, a bunch of dead little school girls. Overall, one might argue this is a net negative for everyone involved. But you’d never know it the way the pundit class chatters on.

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    10 days ago

    Don’t forget the $400 million for the Ballroom, which he said would be built without taxpayer money.

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        I was just watching a video on that jet …… I knew it was a scam that the government was paying for so the orange clown can take it with him, but …… apparently he just want to use it as decoration to build a hotel around

        Which is another scam …… typical donors pay for a presidential library or museum but he doesn’t want those. He expects donors to pay to build him a hotel to keep enriching himself through politics

  • 1984@lemmy.today
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    9 days ago

    I can’t even imagine America with a president like Bernie Sanders. It would be… Good? I can’t see it.

    I would love some kind of TV show where an actually good president would run the country, but we won’t see that will we… Too dangerous. Everyone must think that there is no better way.

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      2016 felt like a pivotal moment and we got stuck with the worst outcome. Sometimes I wonder how much different everything would have turned out if Bernie had gotten the nomination and went on to become president.

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        9 days ago

        Fucking Brexit. I think democracy was defeated by non-military means several times in that era. I don’t think it “just happened”.

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        I feel like 2024 was such a pivotal year. Economy going well inflation getting under control, interest rates falling. We were finally investing a little in our infrastructure, our future. Progress toward getting college costs under controlEV sales and renewable energy were gangbusters, record amounts of public land protected from drilling. The 2035 goal for many states to phase out new combustion vehicles looked achievable. Federal state and local incentives were helping more homeowners switch away from fossil fuels, to even free solar for low income. More locally we had passed a millionaires tax going toward transit improvements and free school lunch. Some amount of free public university…… it was a great time to be alive!

        We had made so much progress that 2024 was the first time in my life I thought America was ready for a progressive

        I was so very very wrong

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      9 days ago

      West Wing was a decent series. Portrayed an administration of people who weren’t perfect, but tried to do the right things.

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      9 days ago

      Aren’t they ALL exceptionally awesome until they get elected and nothing ever changes then?

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            He’s one of the furthest left politicians in the history of the country and has been consistent with it since the 60s.

            If you’ve heard of him, it was him getting sidelined in 2016 so the Democrats could run Hilary Clinton. If you haven’t heard of him, it’s because that sidelining extends to his entire career.

            I wouldn’t vote for him now due to his age but he would have been a powerhouse if he won.

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              I read often of him, and it always sounded like a very solid idea. But probably too good for the common peasant and hence sidelined. The orange clown seems kinda like the absolute opposite. So OK I guess I can retract my bitter statement. There might be good guys left, they just never make it. Oh wait, that’s also bitter…

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                I mean there’s a lot of truth to that. I was always skeptical that Bernie could work well with others enough to be productive, since he’s spent so much of his long career standing against every politician

                Then the weird part is there was a surprisingly large overlap of people who supported both Bernie and the orange clown. So strange when you’re thinking opposite gaols, but perhaps it’s just that both were outside the establishment

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                  I find it more weird that the vast majority of the USA is probably piss-poor to normal poor, yet even those seem to think that a billionaire will care for them and better their lifes. And then wear maga-hats. Or do people with 6-figures think they’re not poor? But I so would wish you guys that next election he might get a rerun, considering how the clown drove the USA into the gutter. I mean if that gestures broadly at everything didn’t help to vote differently, then what would…

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    Same “Average Joe”, 4 years later:

    A woman? Ew, I rather vote for trump again. Or stay at home.

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    Yes - it is Trump alone. Not Obama and the Dems forward. It isn’t their consolidated power where they rule together and seek to put us against one another.

    Bernie gets the great position of never having to be responsible. And I say that having voted for him and who he has said to repeatedly.